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Old Dec 28, 2016, 7:23 pm
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Click here to get the same offer (see below) with the annual fee waived the first year. First try entering code 999999 in the box at the top of the page. Apparently this offer is from an AA employee selling the card inflight, but it seems to be open to everyone. But publishing that employee's code online could get the employee in trouble. If 999999 doesn't work, use employee code 356467. Note: You will NOT get a $99 Companion Certificate as part of your bonus when the annual fee is waived.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.



AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
1. 70K offer https://cards.barclaycardus.com/cred...0-8f2f74651285 DEAD

2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html


The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.

In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.

This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835

As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)

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Business Card, see this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cred...-card-50k.html

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RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.


Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).

There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.

Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.











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Old Mar 3, 2018, 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by beltway
FYI, this and other FAQs about the 10% rebate are answered in the wiki at https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...solidated.html
Good to know. Would you mind adding this to the wiki? Thanks.
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Old Mar 3, 2018, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by philemer
Would you mind adding this to the wiki?
I already added it earlier today, since there are undoubtedly others who might not be aware of this benefit and how it works.
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Old Mar 3, 2018, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by muji
I already added it earlier today, since there are undoubtedly others who might not be aware of this benefit and how it works.
Well, I don't see it. Could you 'bold' it and make it more obvious. Thanks much!

Maybe the way it looks in post 1005?
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Old Mar 3, 2018, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by philemer
Well, I don't see it.
It's at the bottom of the wiki. I just enlarged it a bit to make it hopefully more obvious.

I thought to place it there since it applies to both the personal card (with its information at the top of the wiki) and the business card (with its information at the lower part of the wiki).
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Old Mar 4, 2018, 1:17 pm
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Can I get the bonus miles if I have another Barclays card?

Applied for and got AA Aviator w/Barclays. I have a Barclays Apple card as well. Now being told I may not receive the 50k bonus miles since I have another Barclays card? Is this correct. I've had the card for two weeks and have met the minimum requirements for points posting....
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Old Mar 7, 2018, 11:58 am
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Currently have a BarclayCard Aviator Red. I value this card for the 10% rebate so ideally I would want to have this card or the business one with me at all times (Citi is out of the picture as I closed and waiting for 24 months). I am not sure what to do with my current Aviator area personal card. I know the 60k may come back this year, and the general consensus is that I will be denied if I apply again with this card open. Am I able to downgrade this card to something with no fee? And if I do so, would I be auto denied for another Aviator Red? Any data points or insights would be greatly appreciated! Thank you.
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Old Mar 7, 2018, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by cce5858
Currently have a BarclayCard Aviator Red. I value this card for the 10% rebate so ideally I would want to have this card or the business one with me at all times (Citi is out of the picture as I closed and waiting for 24 months). I am not sure what to do with my current Aviator area personal card. I know the 60k may come back this year, and the general consensus is that I will be denied if I apply again with this card open. Am I able to downgrade this card to something with no fee? And if I do so, would I be auto denied for another Aviator Red? Any data points or insights would be greatly appreciated! Thank you.
The 10% rebate is not a feature of the business card.
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Old Mar 7, 2018, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by cce5858
Currently have a BarclayCard Aviator Red. I value this card for the 10% rebate so ideally I would want to have this card or the business one with me at all times (Citi is out of the picture as I closed and waiting for 24 months). I am not sure what to do with my current Aviator area personal card. I know the 60k may come back this year, and the general consensus is that I will be denied if I apply again with this card open. Am I able to downgrade this card to something with no fee? And if I do so, would I be auto denied for another Aviator Red? Any data points or insights would be greatly appreciated! Thank you.
Yes, but the no-fee card doesn't have the 10% rebate, and also earns half (1 mile for every 2 dollars). Would that really be of any use for you?

See here for info on the what benefits each of the 4 levels of the AA Aviator card have:

https://milecards.com/1588418688/aviator-credit-card/

The Red is the cheapest (in terms of AF) of the 4 cards that has the 10% rebate. Neither the Blue (which is hardly ever offered to anyone) or the no-AF card have it, only Red and Silver.
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Old Mar 8, 2018, 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by cce5858
Currently have a BarclayCard Aviator Red. I value this card for the 10% rebate so ideally I would want to have this card or the business one with me at all times (Citi is out of the picture as I closed and waiting for 24 months). I am not sure what to do with my current Aviator area personal card. I know the 60k may come back this year, and the general consensus is that I will be denied if I apply again with this card open. Am I able to downgrade this card to something with no fee? And if I do so, would I be auto denied for another Aviator Red? Any data points or insights would be greatly appreciated! Thank you.
Our (admittedly conservative) approach to the Aviator card is we keep it open for a year, spending on it each month, although not huge amounts. Then we cancel, wait a month or so, and apply for another one. We both been doing this for years now. So we always get our 10% back, and a bunch of miles every @13 months or so.
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Old Mar 8, 2018, 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by Hugh Michaels
Applied for and got AA Aviator w/Barclays. I have a Barclays Apple card as well. Now being told I may not receive the 50k bonus miles since I have another Barclays card? Is this correct. I've had the card for two weeks and have met the minimum requirements for points posting....
Wondering who told you that? AFAIK you will get the bonus if you meet the min spnd in time. At any rate, you will find out soon enough. When you do, please report back...
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Old Mar 8, 2018, 3:38 pm
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Is the general consensus that the following two statements from the T&C for this card are not being enforced by Barclays:

1. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
2. This one-time AAdvantage® bonus mileage offer is valid for first-time cardmembers with new accounts only. Existing cardmembers, existing accounts, and previous cardmember with accounts closed in the past 24 months may not be eligible for this offer.

If that is in fact the case, then is the prevailing churning strategy similar to the one for the Alaska Personal Cards, in that you want to follow the following sequence as soon as points for current card have been received:

1. Reduce credit line as low as possible
2. Shortly after reducing credit line close out the account
3. Wait some amount of time (but less that the 24mos stipulated in #2 above); likely somewhere in the 30-90 day range (45 days is what I saw mentioned the most)
4. Reapply for card, make purchase, pay annual fee, receive bonus, rinse and repeat

Thanks for confirming? Couldn't find definitive answers specifically as they relate to the enforcement of the T&C statements above.
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Old Mar 8, 2018, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by adavydov7
Is the general consensus that the following two statements from the T&C for this card are not being enforced by Barclays:

1. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
2. This one-time AAdvantage® bonus mileage offer is valid for first-time cardmembers with new accounts only. Existing cardmembers, existing accounts, and previous cardmember with accounts closed in the past 24 months may not be eligible for this offer.

If that is in fact the case, then is the prevailing churning strategy similar to the one for the Alaska Personal Cards, in that you want to follow the following sequence as soon as points for current card have been received:

1. Reduce credit line as low as possible
2. Shortly after reducing credit line close out the account
3. Wait some amount of time (but less that the 24mos stipulated in #2 above); likely somewhere in the 30-90 day range (45 days is what I saw mentioned the most)
4. Reapply for card, make purchase, pay annual fee, receive bonus, rinse and repeat

Thanks for confirming? Couldn't find definitive answers specifically as they relate to the enforcement of the T&C statements above.
If you read carefully you should pick up the much more important part on how often you can apply a Barclays card (of any kind but the Aviator and A+ in particular). The interval of your rinse and repeat is much longer than the 45 days. Go back to read some more. (and there is no hard and fast rules like Chase or Citi, but very much ymmv - though nobody seems to be able to rinse Barclays card shorter than 4 or more monthd between app. Just a couple posts above yours, RobertHanson mentioned their interval is 13 months, fyi.
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Old Mar 8, 2018, 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
If you read carefully you should pick up the much more important part on how often you can apply a Barclays card (of any kind but the Aviator and A+ in particular). The interval of your rinse and repeat is much longer than the 45 days. Go back to read some more. (and there is no hard and fast rules like Chase or Citi, but very much ymmv - though nobody seems to be able to rinse Barclays card shorter than 4 or more monthd between app. Just a couple posts above yours, RobertHanson mentioned their interval is 13 months, fyi.
Yes, I read that post as well as the one from nimnim some ways above that as well, suggesting you wait no less than 45 days between close of account and new app, and do no more than 2 cards a year. So, like I said the main part I was wanting to establish is that the 24mo minimum in the T&C isn't actually being enforced (but these are their opinions of best practices, and there is a very wide range in what each suggests, hence my question). The rest was best practice for re-applying with the implied understanding that it is all ymmv. Just because I don't post much doesn't mean I don't know know how to read prior posts or how to use google. Reading through 1000+ posts isn't really practical either (I read through probably the most recent 50-100) as these things change far too frequently and the lack of Wiki info re churning would suggest that no one really knows or has anything but anecdotal evidence regarding re-applying for this card Appreciate the info regarding the 4mo min between apps; I was looking to get a better idea of how long to wait after I close the current card I have, whether to lower CL prior to closing (a la Alaska card), etc. Thanks in advance for any input on these fronts!

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Old Mar 9, 2018, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by adavydov7
...Appreciate the info regarding the 4mo min between apps; I was looking to get a better idea of how long to wait after I close the current card I have, whether to lower CL prior to closing (a la Alaska card), etc. Thanks in advance for any input on these fronts!
I had 11 months between successful apps and 35 days between closing and opening of the two. When I was getting ready to apply for #2 in late Nov/Dec, there was a couple of DPs of folks applying in less than 30 days and getting denied. Someone said it had to do with resetting of accounts in Barclays system (or something like that) and recommended waiting longer than 30 days to let that happen. For me, at least, 35 days worked. Interestingly, someone was actually denied after waiting 4ish months between opening/closing. Maybe we should start putting these DP's in a list in the wiki like there are in the retention offers threads.

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Old Mar 9, 2018, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by fredc84
I had 11 months between successful apps and 35 days between closing and opening of the two. When I was getting ready to apply for #2 in late Nov/Dec, there was a couple of DPs of folks applying in less than 30 days and getting denied. Someone said it had to do with resetting of accounts in Barclays system (or something like that) and recommended waiting longer than 30 days to let that happen. For me, at least, 35 days worked. Interestingly, someone was actually denied after waiting 4ish months between opening/closing. Maybe we should start putting these DP's in a list in the wiki like there are in the retention offers threads.
Thanks Fred, I appreciate the data point and will be sure to add my own. Going to decrease the CL on mine today and close next week. Then wait about 45 days and reapply around the end of April or so. Agree with the wiki list suggestion. Since, these are all anecdotal it would be helpful to have centralized list of the DPs to see how long everyone waited and what the outcome was. Much easier to form conclusions about any sort of churning "rules" that way than having to read through the entire thread.
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