Dec 28, 2016, 7:23 pm
Last edit by: philemer
Personal Card
Click here to get the same offer (see below) with the annual fee waived the first year. First try entering code 999999 in the box at the top of the page. Apparently this offer is from an AA employee selling the card inflight, but it seems to be open to everyone. But publishing that employee's code online could get the employee in trouble. If 999999 doesn't work, use employee code 356467. Note: You will NOT get a $99 Companion Certificate as part of your bonus when the annual fee is waived.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.
AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
1. 70K offer https://cards.barclaycardus.com/cred...0-8f2f74651285 DEAD
2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html
The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835
As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)
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Business Card, see this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cred...-card-50k.html
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RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.
Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).
There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.
Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.
Language from the web offer page: Anniversary Companion Certificate: Each anniversary year; earn a Companion Certificate good for 1 guest at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after spending $20,000 on purchases and your account remains open for 45 days after your anniversary date. There is NO LANGUAGE in this offer regarding a "complimentary" companion certificate.
AAdvantage Aviator Red World Elite Mastercard
2. 60,000 bonus miles and $99 Companion Certificate after first purchase and paying the $99 annual fee
Offer landing page: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/card...astercard.html
The offer fine print:
The primary cardmember will earn sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 4-6 weeks for the AAdvantage®bonus miles to be deposited into your AAdvantage® account. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
In addition to the sixty thousand (60,000) AAdvantage® bonus miles, the primary cardmember will earn one (1) domestic economy fare American Airlines introductory Companion Certificate redeemable for one (1) companion ticket at $99 (plus taxes and fees) after a purchase is made on the card account within ninety (90) days of card account opening and the annual fee has been paid. Please allow 8-10 weeks for delivery of the Companion Certificate after the qualifying purchase has posted to your card account and the annual fee has been paid. Balance transfers and cash advances do not qualify as purchases. This offer may be canceled at any time without notice.
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program.
There are data points indicating that this is not always enforced: See posts 439, 496, 514, 516, 517, 538, 835
As of Sept. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, "instantly" by a computer, if they already have an Aviator card open. As of Dec. 2017, most people applying for an Aviator card are being denied, even by recon, if they already have an Aviator card open. It had been that current and previous Aviator Red (US Airways Converted) cardmembers were not subject to the 24-month restriction. This seems to have changed as far as current card holders applying for a second, concurrent card. (See posts #185, 193, 194, 195, 198, 199, 211, 220, 247, 290, 527, 529, 532)
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
Business Card, see this thread:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cred...-card-50k.html
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
RECON. PHONE NUMBERS
Reported phone numbers to call for reconsideration include 866-371-4787, (post 303), 866-205-5973 (post 659), 866-408-4064 (multiple posts), 866-408-4065 (from post #2 in recon thread), 866-369-1283 (from post #7 in recon thread). Other posters have called the general customer service number and asked to be transferred to a credit analyst.
Sign Up Bonus Info:
It appears that if your SUB includes the $95 AF (annual fee), Barclays doesn't post the AF until the 2nd statement. Thus, it will be a min. of 2 statements before you see your SUB points. This is only if the SUB requires the AF (as opposed to some SUBs that just have the $x,xxx in purchases with no AF).
There have been at least two cases in July 2023 where Barclays posted the AF prior to the first statement. In both of those cases, the cardholder paid the AF and other balance prior to the closing date. The SUB was issued as of the first statement for one these accounts. It may be the second one was too close to the closing date.
Posting of points from Barclays SUB to AA seem to take 3-7 days after the SUB posts on the Barclays Statement.
Barclays AAdvantage Aviator PERSONAL Card (2016 - 2023)
Jan 3, 2018, 9:17 pm
#841
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,755
So the lapse time between cancellation and reapplication might not be an issue.
This might eliminate the reason 1). So it leaves the reason 2) - time between 2 Barclays card application.
How about the lapse time between 2 Barclays cards applications> i.e. before the 2nd Aviator card application, when was the previous Barclays card opened? (any Barclays card).
Jan 3, 2018, 10:27 pm
#843
Join Date: May 2014
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,164
There are a lot of reasons for a denial for a Barclay card, my advice is not to apply for the same card for around 6 months from the denial of the same product.
I would make sure not to have the same product open when you apply for the next card, i normally close the existing card 45 days minimum prior to my new app.
i would make sure that the credit limit on the existing Barclay cards very low, normally i lower my active cards to 1K at least 1-2 months prior to the next application, this way you free-up the credit line for the next card which increases your chances of an auto approval.
don't push your luck with barclay, 2 cards a year is not a bad deal, most of the time i do 1 card every 5-6 months.
I would make sure not to have the same product open when you apply for the next card, i normally close the existing card 45 days minimum prior to my new app.
i would make sure that the credit limit on the existing Barclay cards very low, normally i lower my active cards to 1K at least 1-2 months prior to the next application, this way you free-up the credit line for the next card which increases your chances of an auto approval.
don't push your luck with barclay, 2 cards a year is not a bad deal, most of the time i do 1 card every 5-6 months.
Jan 4, 2018, 2:30 pm
#845
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: RNO
Programs: UA,AA, WN
Posts: 378
Promotional code
on flight the other night the flight attendants were handing out applications for the 60K offer. The applications have a space for a promotional code. My application adid not have the space filled in. Does anyone have the code?
Jan 5, 2018, 8:09 pm
#846
Join Date: Jun 2010
Programs: Whatever's Cheapest, Accruing Miles, Redeeming for Premium Cabins, Not Chasing Status Unnecessarily
Posts: 2,264
So here's my data point.
My experience in the last few years or so is that you can apply for another barclaycard once it drops off your online profile after about 6 months or so.
Ok, well I haven't been paying much attention to churning cuz I was trying to lower my inquiries in hopes of somehow 5/24.... or at least my auto insurance rates would be better.
Anyway I saw 60k miles for $99 and 60k jetblue for $99 and I was like gotta try.
So aviator (last had over a year ago not exactly sure when.. but certainly wasn't appearing as a card on my online profile) went pending. !!!!!!
So I googled and read that this crap was happening... shoulda researched first... didn't know how dynamic this all was...
So I read no hard pull if denied for 24mo thing... so I applied for JetBlue card since I never had it.
Again went pending....
So now I'm sad.....
My experience in the last few years or so is that you can apply for another barclaycard once it drops off your online profile after about 6 months or so.
Ok, well I haven't been paying much attention to churning cuz I was trying to lower my inquiries in hopes of somehow 5/24.... or at least my auto insurance rates would be better.
Anyway I saw 60k miles for $99 and 60k jetblue for $99 and I was like gotta try.
So aviator (last had over a year ago not exactly sure when.. but certainly wasn't appearing as a card on my online profile) went pending. !!!!!!
So I googled and read that this crap was happening... shoulda researched first... didn't know how dynamic this all was...
So I read no hard pull if denied for 24mo thing... so I applied for JetBlue card since I never had it.
Again went pending....
So now I'm sad.....
Jan 6, 2018, 4:07 am
#847
Join Date: Jun 2010
Programs: Whatever's Cheapest, Accruing Miles, Redeeming for Premium Cabins, Not Chasing Status Unnecessarily
Posts: 2,264
And I did get hard pull
Jan 6, 2018, 11:03 am
#848
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: LAS, MPL
Programs: DL Platinum, 1 MM
Posts: 1,320
Jan 6, 2018, 11:52 am
#849
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
So here's my data point.
My experience in the last few years or so is that you can apply for another barclaycard once it drops off your online profile after about 6 months or so.
Ok, well I haven't been paying much attention to churning cuz I was trying to lower my inquiries in hopes of somehow 5/24.... or at least my auto insurance rates would be better.
Anyway I saw 60k miles for $99 and 60k jetblue for $99 and I was like gotta try.
So aviator (last had over a year ago not exactly sure when.. but certainly wasn't appearing as a card on my online profile) went pending. !!!!!!
So I googled and read that this crap was happening... shoulda researched first... didn't know how dynamic this all was...
So I read no hard pull if denied for 24mo thing... so I applied for JetBlue card since I never had it.
Again went pending....
So now I'm sad.....
My experience in the last few years or so is that you can apply for another barclaycard once it drops off your online profile after about 6 months or so.
Ok, well I haven't been paying much attention to churning cuz I was trying to lower my inquiries in hopes of somehow 5/24.... or at least my auto insurance rates would be better.
Anyway I saw 60k miles for $99 and 60k jetblue for $99 and I was like gotta try.
So aviator (last had over a year ago not exactly sure when.. but certainly wasn't appearing as a card on my online profile) went pending. !!!!!!
So I googled and read that this crap was happening... shoulda researched first... didn't know how dynamic this all was...
So I read no hard pull if denied for 24mo thing... so I applied for JetBlue card since I never had it.
Again went pending....
So now I'm sad.....
No point in being prematurely sad. If you get a denial letter there will be time enough to be sad. Closed my last Aviator card June 6, 2017. Approved for another one Dec 26, 2017. So not sure where people are getting this "24 months" stuff. Maybe they are confusing Barclays with Citi and Chase?
Jan 6, 2018, 12:31 pm
#850
Join Date: May 2014
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,164
Don't worry, be happy. No point in being prematurely sad. If you get a denial letter there will be time enough to be sad. Closed my last Aviator card June 6, 2017. Approved for another one Dec 26, 2017. So not sure where people are getting this "24 months" stuff. Maybe they are confusing Barclays with Citi and Chase?
No point in being prematurely sad. If you get a denial letter there will be time enough to be sad. Closed my last Aviator card June 6, 2017. Approved for another one Dec 26, 2017. So not sure where people are getting this "24 months" stuff. Maybe they are confusing Barclays with Citi and Chase?
Jan 6, 2018, 2:14 pm
#851
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,755
Don't worry, be happy. No point in being prematurely sad. If you get a denial letter there will be time enough to be sad. Closed my last Aviator card June 6, 2017. Approved for another one Dec 26, 2017. So not sure where people are getting this "24 months" stuff. Maybe they are confusing Barclays with Citi and Chase?
No point in being prematurely sad. If you get a denial letter there will be time enough to be sad. Closed my last Aviator card June 6, 2017. Approved for another one Dec 26, 2017. So not sure where people are getting this "24 months" stuff. Maybe they are confusing Barclays with Citi and Chase?The 24 month is in the terms of the Aviator card application, the thing is, it is not enforced based on my experience and experience of others (like yourself), some people are mistakenly reasoning their recent denials to that rule when in fact it has nothing to do with it.
Jan 7, 2018, 6:42 pm
#852
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: AA MM PP, MR LT Plat, Globalist
Posts: 1,000
I applied and was approved last month. Previously canceled this card middle of 2017. Before that, I held the card for >2 years - maybe it was a US Air card back in the day. I think I was approved because I don't game with Barclay (I have only held this card and the Sallie Mae one) and have been trying to stay under 5/24.
Now, they gave me a $24k credit line - would it be wise to call in and reduce that to say $5k or even less?
Now, they gave me a $24k credit line - would it be wise to call in and reduce that to say $5k or even less?
Jan 9, 2018, 1:22 pm
#854
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: DCA
Posts: 818
Any recent DPs of individuals with still-open Silver cards getting approved for 60k Red card offer? I see a few from a few months ago but unsure if the Wiki is to be read that as of late December that's no longer possible (or just no longer possible with an existing Red card).
Jan 9, 2018, 6:36 pm
#855
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,755
After getting an instant approval on the Ink Preferred card in my husband's name, we decided to try his luck with the Aviator.
Unfortunately he received another instant denial just like the first try in Sept when he still had an existing Aviator.
We dont think the inquiries from his new AMEX DL biz card applied in 1st week of Dec (instant approval from a targeted offer), as well as the Ink Preferred tonight have anything to do with the denial - they should both be from Experian while Barclays always pulls from TU. Doubt the inquiries would matter.
Therefore we feel the possible reason(s) would most likely be:
1) After being denied for a second Aviator with an existing Aviator from a US Airway conversion, he canceled the existing Aviator in late November after 10K anniversary bonus posted at beginning of Nov. The time between cancellation and application is 42 days. Apparently the time lapse is still too short for his account, unlike another poster who reported success only 35 days after canceling the existing Aviator..
2) He has applied and is instantly approved the A+ on Sept 19. Not quite 4 months yet from previous Barclay card application. Should probably wait till full 4 months passed before trying again.
Will report back what the denial letter says once it arrives. Should be able to tell whether it is due to 1) (due to previous Aviator) or due to 2).(has extended maximum credit).
Unfortunately he received another instant denial just like the first try in Sept when he still had an existing Aviator.
We dont think the inquiries from his new AMEX DL biz card applied in 1st week of Dec (instant approval from a targeted offer), as well as the Ink Preferred tonight have anything to do with the denial - they should both be from Experian while Barclays always pulls from TU. Doubt the inquiries would matter.
Therefore we feel the possible reason(s) would most likely be:
1) After being denied for a second Aviator with an existing Aviator from a US Airway conversion, he canceled the existing Aviator in late November after 10K anniversary bonus posted at beginning of Nov. The time between cancellation and application is 42 days. Apparently the time lapse is still too short for his account, unlike another poster who reported success only 35 days after canceling the existing Aviator..
2) He has applied and is instantly approved the A+ on Sept 19. Not quite 4 months yet from previous Barclay card application. Should probably wait till full 4 months passed before trying again.
Will report back what the denial letter says once it arrives. Should be able to tell whether it is due to 1) (due to previous Aviator) or due to 2).(has extended maximum credit).
Thank you both for the DPs.
So the lapse time between cancellation and reapplication might not be an issue.
This might eliminate the reason 1). So it leaves the reason 2) - time between 2 Barclays card application.
How about the lapse time between 2 Barclays cards applications> i.e. before the 2nd Aviator card application, when was the previous Barclays card opened? (any Barclays card).
So the lapse time between cancellation and reapplication might not be an issue.
This might eliminate the reason 1). So it leaves the reason 2) - time between 2 Barclays card application.
How about the lapse time between 2 Barclays cards applications> i.e. before the 2nd Aviator card application, when was the previous Barclays card opened? (any Barclays card).
So it is due to not enough time passed from the 9/19 A+ instant approval. Had we waited after Jan 21st the outcome might be different. I totally forgot the 4 months safety rule.