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Barclays Arrival Plus, now 70K w/$5k spend

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This thread is a continuation of the discussion posted here from 12.08.2012 - 5.13.2014: Barclays Arrival/Arrival Cards (1.05%/2.1% travel credits)

Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.


Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.

You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.

You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.

This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.

If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.




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Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious

Successful
Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
  • 9/11 Museum and Memorial - NYC
  • Accuracy Limo (via Square, Salt Lake City, UT limo service)
  • ACE Adventures (West Virginia White Water Rafting), had to call in to get it processed manually
  • agoda.com
  • AirAsia Flights (airasia.com)
  • airbnb bookings
  • airbnb GC purchased on United MPX site
  • Alaska Airlines checked baggage fee $25 charge
  • Amazing Bike Tours Thailand
  • AA Gift Card
  • American Airlines telephone booking (including booking fee)
  • Amtrak train ticket >$25 (ALB-NYP)
  • Amtrak train ticket >$25 (unknown destinations)
  • Arrival+ Annual Fee
  • Argosy Cruises (SEA, classified as RECREATION)
  • Autoeurope.com
  • BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) San Francisco
  • Balloons over Bagan
  • Bieber bus tickets
  • Boston MBTA Charlie Card reload & Commuter Rail passes & tickets
  • Burj Khalifa observation decks
  • Buying Lifemiles from Avianca
  • Capitaine Train Tickets (capitaine.com)
  • Carmel Limo (NYC car service)
  • carrentals.com
  • cheaptickets.com hotel
  • Chinese Visa Application Fees (had to call in. Credit showed up in account in 2 business days. See Post 912 and 921 for details)
  • City Taxi (Tampa)
  • CostcoTravel
  • Cotai Waterjet (Hong Kong)
  • CT Limo
  • Daily Getaways purchase of HHonors points
  • DB Bahn Trains Germany (bahn.de)
  • Disneyland Hong Kong (Manual redemption required)
  • DriveNow - all locations in EU/US
  • Dublin Bus Tours Hop on, Hop off (Green)
  • Eiffel Tower (manual redemption by phone allowed)
  • Empire State Building tickets
  • Enterprise rent-a-car, paid at the counter when returning the car (used Chase United Visa initially for primary coverage, but asked to pay with a different card when returning the car)
  • Eurostar Train Tickets (eurostar.com)
  • Europcar.com
  • Expedia.com
  • Hertz Rent-a-Car (booked on hertz.com)
  • Hong Kong Airport Express Pass
  • Hotel bookings through Rocketmiles (even refundable bookings or those tied to other promotions)
  • Hotels.com
  • Hotwire
  • ItaliaRail (online booking agency for TrenItalia)
  • LA Swamp Tours, Steamboat cruise, Haunted History Tours (New Orleans)
  • Lahaina-Maui Ferry Tickets - booked online at www.go-lanai.com
  • Las Vegas Show Booked through hotel
    Las Vegas show tickets booked online (Mandalay Bay Box office)
  • Limo Charges - Two limo charges that I made in March PRIOR the the recent changes to what qualifies as "Travel" showed up as eligible travel charges. I guess with the changes to what's covered, and for how long, these got pulled back in.
  • Lyft
  • M-Life advance reservation deposit
  • Montway Auto Transport (deposit)
  • New York City MTA Subway Cards
  • New York Waterways Ferry (between NJ and NYC)
  • Ngong Ping 360 (Hong Kong)
  • Norwegian Cruise Line purchase made from telephone order from vacationstogo.com
  • Norwegian Cruise Line (deposits and payments)
  • NS Hispeed Train Tickets (nshispeed.com)
  • NYC Taxi
  • Orbitz.com purchase
  • ORCA card for Seattle area tolls (considered the very typical GOVERNMENT SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
  • Paris RATP Metro/VATP (buy 10-ticket pack for >$25 and save cost)
  • PeruRail (Machu Picchu train)
  • PMRF Beach Cottages (Kauai)
  • Priceline
  • Primetime Shuttle (Worked from LAX-SNA)
  • rail europe on Travelocity
  • rail JR Rail in Japan, load as tourist attraction, call in to get it credit (Post#938)
  • Safari Helicopter Tour (Kauai)
  • Sandals.com resort booking (unique vacations) was not redeemable last year. Is redeemable online now
  • SEASTREAK LLC - NYC (Commuter Ferri)
  • Singapore Cable Car
  • Southwest Early Bird Check-in (billed separately from airfare charges)
  • Spirit of NY Dinner Cruises - www.spiritcruises.com, which have cruises in several other cities as well.
  • Starwood Vacation Ownership (SPG Timeshare) Westin Princeville Kauai (coded as Timeshare).
  • St Pauls Cathedral (manual redemption by phone allowed)
  • Super Shuttle (mixed, worked in SF when (billed SUPERSHUTTLE EXECUCARS), worked in Boston (SUPERSHUTTLE BOSTON), failed in LA (SUPERSHUTTLE), Worked in Cancun.
  • Taxi in Zürich
  • Top of the Rock tickets - NYC
  • Trenitalia Online
  • Trimet (Portland OR public transportation)
  • Trip Advisor Rental
  • TurboJET (Hong Kong)
  • Uber
  • Uber GC through MPX $100 (re-confirmed 11/1/2018, using Arrival Premier)
  • United Baggage Fee
  • Universal Studio Orlando tickets (had to call in)
  • Viator (sightseeing/tours)
  • Victoria Clipper (passenger ferry)
  • Wedding at the Stratosphere's Chapel in the Clouds (billed as stratosphere)
  • Windsor Castle (manual redemption by phone allowed)
  • Wine purchases from different wine tasting rooms
  • WMATA (Washington DC Metro) - [[COLOR="Red"]reconfirmed 10/5/15]
  • Zipcar

    Unsuccessful (please mention the amount redeemed - important as anything under $25 $100 cannot be reimbursed)
    Partial redemptions are possible - however you cannot redeem against that charge again. So if you have a $500 charge and you spend 40K points against it, you cannot redeem 10K points for the remaining $100 of that charge.
  • www.b-europe.com (SNCB rail)
  • Amtrak (possibly due <$25 charge)
  • Blue Water Rafting. Merchant category "Recreation Services -- Not elsewhere classified"
  • Brazil airline GOL booked online codes as DIRECT MARKETING/DIRECT MARKETERS--NOT ELESWH ..
  • budgetair.co.uk (charged >$200)
  • Car2go
  • De Palm Tours, Aruba (classified as Recreation. Called Barclay twice.)
  • Description: ZERVE *CA WHALES Merchant Category: THEATRICAL PRODUCERS (EXCEPT MOTION PICTURES), TICKET AGENCIES...Tickets to whale watching tour purchased over the phone.
  • Evan Evans Sightseeing tours (UK based)- http://www.evanevanstours.co.uk
  • Fastrak tag autoload for San Francisco bridge tolls ($25)
  • Global Entry
  • Gotobus.com Long Distance Buses, ~$100
  • Homeaway.com, posts as real estate. Barclays said they'd make a one-time exception but future purchases won't count as travel.
  • Hostelbookers.com deposit (maybe the charge which is >$25 will count?)
  • Hotels.com Gift Card
  • IHG points and cash hotel redemption
  • Malaysian Overnight Train KUL-SIN (ktmb.com.my)
  • Monterey Aquarium
  • Parking at HSV ($96 in parking at Huntsville International Airport)
  • Parking at IAH (Houston Intercontinental - on airport) -$76 (PARKING LOTS AND GARAGES)
  • Parking at LAS
  • Parking at LGA $204
  • Parking at Port Imperial, Weehawken, NJ
  • Parking at SNA (John Wayne Airport)
  • San Francisco Clipper Card public transit (autoload from website)
  • Skyjump at Stratosphere Hotel LV $150 (01/14) - not charged by hotel.
  • Space Needle and Chihuly Garden Tickets
  • Starwood points purchase (BUSINESS SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
  • Taxi Magic /Curb- Taxi service
  • Thello train (France-Italy night train, codes as rail-freight)
  • Trenitalia (both online and in stations, posts as rail-freight)
  • UBER eGift Card (bought through the UBER app) for $100 - Not coded as "travel," so couldn't redeem online and they wouldn't do it over the phone, either.



Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:

One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)

Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
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Old Feb 18, 19, 7:39 am
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Oh, so I meant my husband, not my mom's husband. My dad is under 6/24 and will probably apply for the Barclay's card. I actually never thought about using total household income when I apply. My husband and I just apply using our separate incomes. Do most people use household income?
Its allowed by an amendment to the 2009 Card Act as outlined below. There is no reason not to use HHI. In most states, if you are married, you are legally liable for any debt that occurs during the marriage. So basically you are jointly applying for any debt anyway, so you might as well use it.

"A 2013 amendment to the federal regulations surrounding the Card Act expanded the definition of one’s ability to pay so that people 21 and older can include any income to which they have a “reasonable expectation of access.” This can include income from a spouse, partner or other member of your household. It can also include nonwage income such as savings, trust fund distributions, unemployment compensation and others."
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Indeed looks like they have changed the wording a bit. And now it says you "may" not be eligible if you have had this card before.

I am waiting for my card to arrive next week and once the spend is met, which for me i can do essentially immediately, I'll see if the bonus posts.....should be lot of data points rolling on people who have had this card before (like myself and many here) to see if they do get the bonus
Any update on this, getting the bonus again for previous holders of Arrival Plus?
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Old Feb 20, 19, 10:22 am
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Any update on this, getting the bonus again for previous holders of Arrival Plus?
Will update very soon. Just got my card last week and we went to Maui over the weekend for our V-day getaway (we feel very fortunate to live in Honolulu) and I also paid my car insurance and health insurance just yesterday. I will likely pay my rent early as well and so will update once my minimum spend is met by end of this week!
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Old Feb 21, 19, 6:17 pm
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The current language sounds like if you ever have this card before, you will not receive bonus.

See below the additional languages in the second paragraph bolded by me - seems like Barclays has adopted AMEX approach.
  • Offer subject to credit approval. If at the time of your application you do not meet the credit criteria previously established for this offer, or the income you report is insufficient based on your obligations, we may not be able to open an account for you. This offer is available to new cardmembers only. The annual fee will be waived the first year and then automatically bill to your account every twelve months after account opening. For information about rates, fees, the annual fee, other costs, the rewards program information and benefits associated with the use of the credit card program, please see the Terms and Conditions.

    This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program. In addition, you may not be eligible for this offer if, at any time during our relationship with you, we have cause, as determined by us in our sole discretion, to suspect that the account is being obtained or will be used for abusive or gaming activity (such as, but not limited to, obtaining or using the account to maximize rewards earned in a manner that is not consistent with typical consumer activity and/or multiple credit card account applications/openings).
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Old Feb 22, 19, 1:04 am
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The current language sounds like if you ever have this card before, you will not receive bonus.

See below the additional languages in the second paragraph bolded by me - seems like Barclays has adopted AMEX approach.
  • Offer subject to credit approval. If at the time of your application you do not meet the credit criteria previously established for this offer, or the income you report is insufficient based on your obligations, we may not be able to open an account for you. This offer is available to new cardmembers only. The annual fee will be waived the first year and then automatically bill to your account every twelve months after account opening. For information about rates, fees, the annual fee, other costs, the rewards program information and benefits associated with the use of the credit card program, please see the Terms and Conditions.

    This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program. In addition, you may not be eligible for this offer if, at any time during our relationship with you, we have cause, as determined by us in our sole discretion, to suspect that the account is being obtained or will be used for abusive or gaming activity (such as, but not limited to, obtaining or using the account to maximize rewards earned in a manner that is not consistent with typical consumer activity and/or multiple credit card account applications/openings).
Indeed this is my concern as posted above, as were other posters. I had the Arrivals+ card about 3-4 years ago and I'm a very light churner so we'll see.

The fact that they do have the word "MAY" in that sentence does make it a tad bit more reassuring....but we'll see

As of tonight I've met the $5k spend requirement. It'll be paid off in the next 1-2 days in full so we'll see if that 70k shows up......fingers crossed.

Will immediately update and post to this as a data point...one way or another.
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Old Feb 22, 19, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by ginmqi View Post
Indeed this is my concern as posted above, as were other posters. I had the Arrivals+ card about 3-4 years ago and I'm a very light churner so we'll see.

The fact that they do have the word "MAY" in that sentence does make it a tad bit more reassuring....but we'll see

As of tonight I've met the $5k spend requirement. It'll be paid off in the next 1-2 days in full so we'll see if that 70k shows up......fingers crossed.

Will immediately update and post to this as a data point...one way or another.
The points will post the day charges officially post to the card when you reach $5K spend. I personally received this card on Tuesday, met all the spend Tuesday night and had the points in my account by Thursday! Talk about a fast turnaround.
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Old Feb 22, 19, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by ginmqi View Post
Indeed this is my concern as posted above, as were other posters. I had the Arrivals+ card about 3-4 years ago and I'm a very light churner so we'll see.

The fact that they do have the word "MAY" in that sentence does make it a tad bit more reassuring....but we'll see

As of tonight I've met the $5k spend requirement. It'll be paid off in the next 1-2 days in full so we'll see if that 70k shows up......fingers crossed.

Will immediately update and post to this as a data point...one way or another.
A+ does not require payment on statement to issue bonus. The bonus would post within a day or two after the charge crossing the spend requirement is posted.

If you dont see the bonus by Mon or Tue, that I am afraid, means no bonus to you as the system flags the previous ownership of the same card.
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Originally Posted by slappychasez View Post
The points will post the day charges officially post to the card when you reach $5K spend. I personally received this card on Tuesday, met all the spend Tuesday night and had the points in my account by Thursday! Talk about a fast turnaround.
Ah I see. that's great to hear. So I hope to see the miles post on Monday or Tuesday then....gonna be a long weekend!

Originally Posted by Happy View Post
A+ does not require payment on statement to issue bonus. The bonus would post within a day or two after the charge crossing the spend requirement is posted.

If you dont see the bonus by Mon or Tue, that I am afraid, means no bonus to you as the system flags the previous ownership of the same card.
Ah nice. Yeah so we'll see if the bonus posts come Monday/Tuesday.....!!!
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Old Feb 23, 19, 6:57 am
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Barclay Arrival Plus bonus again?

Does anyone have any data points if they were successful in receiving the Barclaycard Arrival+ bonus again? I received the bonus over 2 years ago. I am at about 13/24 now. Do you think I can apply and get approved again and receive the bonus?

If not, what are my chances of getting the Capital One Venture card if I am at 13/24? I never had the card before and my credit score is over 800.

I am going to Universal Studios and would
like to erase some charges.
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Originally Posted by Allathompson View Post
Does anyone have any data points if they were successful in receiving the Barclaycard Arrival+ bonus again? I received the bonus over 2 years ago. I am at about 13/24 now. Do you think I can apply and get approved again and receive the bonus?

If not, what are my chances of getting the Capital One Venture card if I am at 13/24? I never had the card before and my credit score is over 800.

I am going to Universal Studios and would
like to erase some charges.
13/24 would stop you on the track with both Barclays and CapOne. Other things are irrelevant when you are at this number.
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Old Feb 23, 19, 1:28 pm
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13/24 would stop you on the track with both Barclays and CapOne. Other things are irrelevant when you are at this number.
I am 30/24, at least, and was just approved for my third Arrival Plus two weeks ago. Working on the spend now. My wife was also approved for her second and is 20/24. Just FYI.
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I am 30/24, at least, and was just approved for my third Arrival Plus two weeks ago. Working on the spend now. My wife was also approved for her second and is 20/24. Just FYI.
In this case good for you both. Seems Barclays has had a change of heart then after its unsuccessful attempt to introduce the short-lived no bonus card and has to resort back to the A+ with bonus and first year free.

Wneh you say your 3rd and your wife's second - how long ago your previous A+ were? Have you gotten it AFTER the first new language being put in place?

Note there are 2 different areas mentioned about the eligibility. The 2nd part seems to be a patched up job that only showed up recently.

The final proof would be, do the previous cardholders still receive the bonus now they added a new dimension in the T&Cs that a few weeks before weren't there (only the new customer paragraph versus the new paragraph that seems to be a patched up work.)

Those who play the repeat game, please report back if you receive the bonus upon finishing the spend. Thank you in advance!
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I am 30/24, at least, and was just approved for my third Arrival Plus two weeks ago. Working on the spend now. My wife was also approved for her second and is 20/24. Just FYI.
Did you get the bonus?
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Originally Posted by Happy View Post
In this case good for you both. Seems Barclays has had a change of heart then after its unsuccessful attempt to introduce the short-lived no bonus card and has to resort back to the A+ with bonus and first year free.

Wneh you say your 3rd and your wife's second - how long ago your previous A+ were? Have you gotten it AFTER the first new language being put in place?
Both of our last Arrival+'s were before the change in language, which happened pretty recently. My last Arrival was 4/17 and closed 6/18. I don't have a record of my wife's last Arrival+, but she does have an Arrival (non-plus) card open as of right now. FWIW.

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Did you get the bonus?
Still working on the spend, but will update accordingly.
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Old Feb 24, 19, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by moretimeoffguy View Post
That *is* scary verbiage. Looking forward to hear from others if this rule is actually enforced. Wouldn't want my wife to go through a 5K spend only to have a clawback or chargeback of $700 (current offer being 70K). She had the Arrival Plus a few years ago.
Originally Posted by Visconti View Post
Had the Arrival Plus 4 or 5 years ago, and, being me, app'ed without bothering to read the T&C. Will provide data point on (1) if I get the bonus, and (2) potential clawback scenarios.
Originally Posted by Journey4Happy View Post
I don't see this language in the T&C. Did they take this out?

Also - (assuming above quote is not true) I can't find the answer to this: I had the Arrival Plus about 6 years ago. 3 years ago I downgraded to basic Arrival. Since I have the regular Arrival currently, will that stop me from being approved and getting bonus again fro Arrival Plus.
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The points will post the day charges officially post to the card when you reach $5K spend. I personally received this card on Tuesday, met all the spend Tuesday night and had the points in my account by Thursday! Talk about a fast turnaround.
Originally Posted by Happy View Post
A+ does not require payment on statement to issue bonus. The bonus would post within a day or two after the charge crossing the spend requirement is posted.

If you dont see the bonus by Mon or Tue, that I am afraid, means no bonus to you as the system flags the previous ownership of the same card.
Originally Posted by Allathompson View Post
Does anyone have any data points if they were successful in receiving the Barclaycard Arrival+ bonus again? I received the bonus over 2 years ago. I am at about 13/24 now. Do you think I can apply and get approved again and receive the bonus?

If not, what are my chances of getting the Capital One Venture card if I am at 13/24? I never had the card before and my credit score is over 800.

I am going to Universal Studios and would
like to erase some charges.
Originally Posted by Happy View Post
In this case good for you both. Seems Barclays has had a change of heart then after its unsuccessful attempt to introduce the short-lived no bonus card and has to resort back to the A+ with bonus and first year free.

Wneh you say your 3rd and your wife's second - how long ago your previous A+ were? Have you gotten it AFTER the first new language being put in place?

Note there are 2 different areas mentioned about the eligibility. The 2nd part seems to be a patched up job that only showed up recently.

The final proof would be, do the previous cardholders still receive the bonus now they added a new dimension in the T&Cs that a few weeks before weren't there (only the new customer paragraph versus the new paragraph that seems to be a patched up work.)

Those who play the repeat game, please report back if you receive the bonus upon finishing the spend. Thank you in advance!
Originally Posted by callmedtop View Post
Both of our last Arrival+'s were before the change in language, which happened pretty recently. My last Arrival was 4/17 and closed 6/18. I don't have a record of my wife's last Arrival+, but she does have an Arrival (non-plus) card open as of right now. FWIW.



Still working on the spend, but will update accordingly.
Responding to all of the above posters.

Report back on my data point.

FICO 800, 3/24, I last had the Arrivals+ card probably 3-4+ years ago. Just met my 5k minimum spend on friday, logged into my account and the 70K miles bonus showed up!!! WOOT!

Hope this helps others be more at ease. And as always, YMMV.

Have a good week all!
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