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Barclays Arrival Plus, now 70K w/$5k spend

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This thread is a continuation of the discussion posted here from 12.08.2012 - 5.13.2014: Barclays Arrival/Arrival Cards (1.05%/2.1% travel credits)

Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.


Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.

You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.

You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.

This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.

If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.




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Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious

Successful
Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
  • 9/11 Museum and Memorial - NYC
  • Accuracy Limo (via Square, Salt Lake City, UT limo service)
  • ACE Adventures (West Virginia White Water Rafting), had to call in to get it processed manually
  • agoda.com
  • AirAsia Flights (airasia.com)
  • airbnb bookings
  • Alaska Airlines checked baggage fee $25 charge
  • Amazing Bike Tours Thailand
  • AA Gift Card
  • American Airlines telephone booking (including booking fee)
  • Amtrak train ticket >$25 (ALB-NYP)
  • Amtrak train ticket >$25 (unknown destinations)
  • Arrival+ Annual Fee
  • Argosy Cruises (SEA, classified as RECREATION)
  • Autoeurope.com
  • BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) San Francisco
  • Balloons over Bagan
  • Bieber bus tickets
  • Boston MBTA Charlie Card reload & Commuter Rail passes & tickets
  • Burj Khalifa observation decks
  • Buying Lifemiles from Avianca
  • Capitaine Train Tickets (capitaine.com)
  • Carmel Limo (NYC car service)
  • carrentals.com
  • cheaptickets.com hotel
  • Chinese Visa Application Fees (had to call in. Credit showed up in account in 2 business days. See Post 912 and 921 for details)
  • City Taxi (Tampa)
  • CostcoTravel
  • Cotai Waterjet (Hong Kong)
  • CT Limo
  • Daily Getaways purchase of HHonors points
  • DB Bahn Trains Germany (bahn.de)
  • Disneyland Hong Kong (Manual redemption required)
  • DriveNow - all locations in EU/US
  • Dublin Bus Tours Hop on, Hop off (Green)
  • Eiffel Tower (manual redemption by phone allowed)
  • Empire State Building tickets
  • Enterprise rent-a-car, paid at the counter when returning the car (used Chase United Visa initially for primary coverage, but asked to pay with a different card when returning the car)
  • Eurostar Train Tickets (eurostar.com)
  • Europcar.com
  • Expedia.com
  • Hertz Rent-a-Car (booked on hertz.com)
  • Hong Kong Airport Express Pass
  • Hotel bookings through Rocketmiles (even refundable bookings or those tied to other promotions)
  • Hotels.com
  • Hotwire
  • ItaliaRail (online booking agency for TrenItalia)
  • LA Swamp Tours, Steamboat cruise, Haunted History Tours (New Orleans)
  • Lahaina-Maui Ferry Tickets - booked online at www.go-lanai.com
  • Las Vegas Show Booked through hotel
    Las Vegas show tickets booked online (Mandalay Bay Box office)
  • Limo Charges - Two limo charges that I made in March PRIOR the the recent changes to what qualifies as "Travel" showed up as eligible travel charges. I guess with the changes to what's covered, and for how long, these got pulled back in.
  • Lyft
  • M-Life advance reservation deposit
  • Montway Auto Transport (deposit)
  • New York City MTA Subway Cards
  • New York Waterways Ferry (between NJ and NYC)
  • Ngong Ping 360 (Hong Kong)
  • Norwegian Cruise Line purchase made from telephone order from vacationstogo.com
  • Norwegian Cruise Line (deposits and payments)
  • NS Hispeed Train Tickets (nshispeed.com)
  • NYC Taxi
  • Orbitz.com purchase
  • ORCA card for Seattle area tolls (considered the very typical GOVERNMENT SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
  • Paris RATP Metro/VATP (buy 10-ticket pack for >$25 and save cost)
  • PeruRail (Machu Picchu train)
  • PMRF Beach Cottages (Kauai)
  • Priceline
  • Primetime Shuttle (Worked from LAX-SNA)
  • rail europe on Travelocity
  • rail JR Rail in Japan, load as tourist attraction, call in to get it credit (Post#938)
  • Safari Helicopter Tour (Kauai)
  • Sandals.com resort booking (unique vacations) was not redeemable last year. Is redeemable online now
  • SEASTREAK LLC - NYC (Commuter Ferri)
  • Singapore Cable Car
  • Southwest Early Bird Check-in (billed separately from airfare charges)
  • Spirit of NY Dinner Cruises - www.spiritcruises.com, which have cruises in several other cities as well.
  • Starwood Vacation Ownership (SPG Timeshare) Westin Princeville Kauai (coded as Timeshare).
  • St Pauls Cathedral (manual redemption by phone allowed)
  • Super Shuttle (mixed, worked in SF when (billed SUPERSHUTTLE EXECUCARS), worked in Boston (SUPERSHUTTLE BOSTON), failed in LA (SUPERSHUTTLE), Worked in Cancun.
  • Taxi in Zürich
  • Top of the Rock tickets - NYC
  • Trenitalia Online
  • Trimet (Portland OR public transportation)
  • Trip Advisor Rental
  • TurboJET (Hong Kong)
  • Uber
  • Uber GC through MPX $100 (re-confirmed 11/1/2018, using Arrival Premier)
  • United Baggage Fee
  • Universal Studio Orlando tickets (had to call in)
  • Viator (sightseeing/tours)
  • Victoria Clipper (passenger ferry)
  • Wedding at the Stratosphere's Chapel in the Clouds (billed as stratosphere)
  • Windsor Castle (manual redemption by phone allowed)
  • Wine purchases from different wine tasting rooms
  • WMATA (Washington DC Metro) - [[COLOR="Red"]reconfirmed 10/5/15]
  • Zipcar

    Unsuccessful (please mention the amount redeemed - important as anything under $25 $100 cannot be reimbursed)
    Partial redemptions are possible - however you cannot redeem against that charge again. So if you have a $500 charge and you spend 40K points against it, you cannot redeem 10K points for the remaining $100 of that charge.
  • www.b-europe.com (SNCB rail)
  • Amtrak (possibly due <$25 charge)
  • Blue Water Rafting. Merchant category "Recreation Services -- Not elsewhere classified"
  • Brazil airline GOL booked online codes as DIRECT MARKETING/DIRECT MARKETERS--NOT ELESWH ..
  • budgetair.co.uk (charged >$200)
  • Car2go
  • De Palm Tours, Aruba (classified as Recreation. Called Barclay twice.)
  • Description: ZERVE *CA WHALES Merchant Category: THEATRICAL PRODUCERS (EXCEPT MOTION PICTURES), TICKET AGENCIES...Tickets to whale watching tour purchased over the phone.
  • Evan Evans Sightseeing tours (UK based)- http://www.evanevanstours.co.uk
  • Fastrak tag autoload for San Francisco bridge tolls ($25)
  • Global Entry
  • Gotobus.com Long Distance Buses, ~$100
  • Homeaway.com, posts as real estate. Barclays said they'd make a one-time exception but future purchases won't count as travel.
  • Hostelbookers.com deposit (maybe the charge which is >$25 will count?)
  • Hotels.com Gift Card
  • IHG points and cash hotel redemption
  • Malaysian Overnight Train KUL-SIN (ktmb.com.my)
  • Monterey Aquarium
  • Parking at HSV ($96 in parking at Huntsville International Airport)
  • Parking at IAH (Houston Intercontinental - on airport) -$76 (PARKING LOTS AND GARAGES)
  • Parking at LAS
  • Parking at Port Imperial, Weehawken, NJ
  • Parking at SNA (John Wayne Airport)
  • San Francisco Clipper Card public transit (autoload from website)
  • Skyjump at Stratosphere Hotel LV $150 (01/14) - not charged by hotel.
  • Space Needle and Chihuly Garden Tickets
  • Starwood points purchase (BUSINESS SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
  • Taxi Magic /Curb- Taxi service
  • Thello train (France-Italy night train, codes as rail-freight)
  • Trenitalia (both online and in stations, posts as rail-freight)
  • UBER eGift Card (bought through the UBER app) for $100 - Not coded as "travel," so couldn't redeem online and they wouldn't do it over the phone, either.



Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:

One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)

Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
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Old Jan 6, 18, 12:02 pm
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Reddit thread. Some people can't open cards if they've previously had that card in the past 24 months. That was the reason given by the agent. No hard pull though. And some can get a card again. Seems there's a better chance if you're instantly approved, otherwise eyes on results in decline once the agent sees your history. So no hard and fast rule.
These reports seem peculiar to me. An instant approval would mean the computer does an HP. But people who've been denied had a actual person check their app without the computer first doing an HP? Can't quite figure out how that would work. Or why....
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Old Jan 6, 18, 5:04 pm
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These reports seem peculiar to me. An instant approval would mean the computer does an HP. But people who've been denied had a actual person check their app without the computer first doing an HP? Can't quite figure out how that would work. Or why....
Well, Barclays should be able to use the applicant's SSN to see if they've previously had any Barclays CCs, right? And if not they can do HP and process as usual. If they realize you had the CC previously they can just decline the app without pulling your credit.

I don't know how or why Barclays does what it does. Hopefully they're not turning into Citi, but of course that may not be such a bad thing.
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Old Jan 7, 18, 9:06 am
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Well, Barclays should be able to use the applicant's SSN to see if they've previously had any Barclays CCs, right? And if not they can do HP and process as usual. If they realize you had the CC previously they can just decline the app without pulling your credit.

I don't know how or why Barclays does what it does. Hopefully they're not turning into Citi, but of course that may not be such a bad thing.
IDK about the Arrival card, since I'm still on my first one. But I got another Aviator card a few weeks ago. I've had 3 or 4 of them over the years, and closed my last one @7 months before this most recent app.
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Old Jan 7, 18, 8:40 pm
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These reports seem peculiar to me. An instant approval would mean the computer does an HP. But people who've been denied had a actual person check their app without the computer first doing an HP? Can't quite figure out how that would work. Or why....
Some people called and the agents were willing to approve based on if the caller agreed on a HP and the HP turned out to be credit worthy. However as you would agree, not every agent is willing to approve another card when the official languages have the 24 months. Or that not every agent has received the memo to enforce the 24 months clause...

A+ card was reportedly churnable in the past. New DPs suggest otherwise.
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Old Jan 8, 18, 8:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy View Post
Some people called and the agents were willing to approve based on if the caller agreed on a HP and the HP turned out to be credit worthy. However as you would agree, not every agent is willing to approve another card when the official languages have the 24 months. Or that not every agent has received the memo to enforce the 24 months clause...

A+ card was reportedly churnable in the past. New DPs suggest otherwise.
What exactly is the 24 month clause ? I have seen posts where it was state people had too many apps in a 24 month period but is there any set number that sets off a denial ?
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Old Jan 8, 18, 11:29 pm
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IDK about the Arrival card, since I'm still on my first one. But I got another Aviator card a few weeks ago. I've had 3 or 4 of them over the years, and closed my last one @7 months before this most recent app.
Are you also churning the Citi cards ?

Reason I'm asking is I am and am thinking of applying for another Aviator ( last one closed ) before the 60K offer ends and am wondering if there is a version of the 5/24 etc. for the Aviator.
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Old Jan 9, 18, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by rover4618 View Post
Are you also churning the Citi cards ?

Reason I'm asking is I am and am thinking of applying for another Aviator ( last one closed ) before the 60K offer ends and am wondering if there is a version of the 5/24 etc. for the Aviator.

Here is my list of recent apps:
US Bank Carlson March 1st
Barclay Arrival June 5 (TU)
Citi AA July 16
Citi AA August 1
USB Club Carlson Bus app Oct 31 approved 11/4
B/A
B/A Travel Rewards 12/20/17 instant approval
Barclays Aviator app 12/20, approved 12/21 (TU)
As you can see only Barclays pulls TU for me, everyone else pulls only EXP. Of course every approved card ends up on all 3 CBs after a month or two. But I only had one HP in over a year on TU, which is the only one Barclays pulls for me.
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Old Jan 10, 18, 11:32 am
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Bought myself a $190 Delta e-gift card two days ago with my Arrival+.
Today the charge posted to my account, and I was able to redeem 19,000 miles for a statement credit.
Thus using up the balance of my miles, so I can cancel the card before the AF is due later this month.
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Old Jan 17, 18, 7:41 pm
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Can I redeem points for American Airline gift card? According to this article from 2014 you can:

https://millionmilesecrets.com/2014/...e-redemptions/

Is is still the case?
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Old Jan 17, 18, 8:55 pm
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Reminder: you can redeem miles for the AF. If you then cancel the card, they'll refund the full AF, not just the part that you didn't redeem miles for.
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Old Jan 30, 18, 8:25 am
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Am I pushing my luck doing a $520 refundable Airline ticket all in one go? I have 56k miles and I just wanted to be sure that I'm not going to bring any attention to myself from Barclays.
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Old Jan 30, 18, 8:34 am
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Am I pushing my luck doing a $520 refundable Airline ticket all in one go? I have 56k miles and I just wanted to be sure that I'm not going to bring any attention to myself from Barclays.
You're ok, it's a typical use for a travel CC.
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Old Feb 11, 18, 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Goldflipper View Post
Am I pushing my luck doing a $520 refundable Airline ticket all in one go? I have 56k miles and I just wanted to be sure that I'm not going to bring any attention to myself from Barclays.

May I know which airline did you buy the non refundable ticket from?
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Old Feb 12, 18, 8:56 am
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May I know which airline did you buy the non refundable ticket from?
It doesn't matter. All airlines count for the points credit.
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Old Mar 1, 18, 8:29 pm
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Hello all!

Does anyone know if I can rent an RV from Cruise America and then redeem Barclay Arrival Plus points for the charge?

Thanks!
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