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Barclays Arrival Plus, now 70K w/$5k spend

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This thread is a continuation of the discussion posted here from 12.08.2012 - 5.13.2014: Barclays Arrival/Arrival Cards (1.05%/2.1% travel credits)

Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.


Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.

You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.

You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.

This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.

If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.




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Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious

Successful
Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
  • 9/11 Museum and Memorial - NYC
  • Accuracy Limo (via Square, Salt Lake City, UT limo service)
  • ACE Adventures (West Virginia White Water Rafting), had to call in to get it processed manually
  • agoda.com
  • AirAsia Flights (airasia.com)
  • airbnb bookings
  • airbnb GC purchased on United MPX site
  • Alaska Airlines checked baggage fee $25 charge
  • Amazing Bike Tours Thailand
  • AA Gift Card
  • American Airlines telephone booking (including booking fee)
  • Amtrak train ticket >$25 (ALB-NYP)
  • Amtrak train ticket >$25 (unknown destinations)
  • Arrival+ Annual Fee
  • Argosy Cruises (SEA, classified as RECREATION)
  • Autoeurope.com
  • BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) San Francisco
  • Balloons over Bagan
  • Bieber bus tickets
  • Boston MBTA Charlie Card reload & Commuter Rail passes & tickets
  • Burj Khalifa observation decks
  • Buying Lifemiles from Avianca
  • Capitaine Train Tickets (capitaine.com)
  • Carmel Limo (NYC car service)
  • carrentals.com
  • cheaptickets.com hotel
  • Chinese Visa Application Fees (had to call in. Credit showed up in account in 2 business days. See Post 912 and 921 for details)
  • City Taxi (Tampa)
  • CostcoTravel
  • Cotai Waterjet (Hong Kong)
  • CT Limo
  • Daily Getaways purchase of HHonors points
  • DB Bahn Trains Germany (bahn.de)
  • Disneyland Hong Kong (Manual redemption required)
  • DriveNow - all locations in EU/US
  • Dublin Bus Tours Hop on, Hop off (Green)
  • Eiffel Tower (manual redemption by phone allowed)
  • Empire State Building tickets
  • Enterprise rent-a-car, paid at the counter when returning the car (used Chase United Visa initially for primary coverage, but asked to pay with a different card when returning the car)
  • Eurostar Train Tickets (eurostar.com)
  • Europcar.com
  • Expedia.com
  • Hertz Rent-a-Car (booked on hertz.com)
  • Hong Kong Airport Express Pass
  • Hotel bookings through Rocketmiles (even refundable bookings or those tied to other promotions)
  • Hotels.com
  • Hotwire
  • ItaliaRail (online booking agency for TrenItalia)
  • LA Swamp Tours, Steamboat cruise, Haunted History Tours (New Orleans)
  • Lahaina-Maui Ferry Tickets - booked online at www.go-lanai.com
  • Las Vegas Show Booked through hotel
    Las Vegas show tickets booked online (Mandalay Bay Box office)
  • Limo Charges - Two limo charges that I made in March PRIOR the the recent changes to what qualifies as "Travel" showed up as eligible travel charges. I guess with the changes to what's covered, and for how long, these got pulled back in.
  • Lyft
  • M-Life advance reservation deposit
  • Montway Auto Transport (deposit)
  • New York City MTA Subway Cards
  • New York Waterways Ferry (between NJ and NYC)
  • Ngong Ping 360 (Hong Kong)
  • Norwegian Cruise Line purchase made from telephone order from vacationstogo.com
  • Norwegian Cruise Line (deposits and payments)
  • NS Hispeed Train Tickets (nshispeed.com)
  • NYC Taxi
  • Orbitz.com purchase
  • ORCA card for Seattle area tolls (considered the very typical GOVERNMENT SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
  • Paris RATP Metro/VATP (buy 10-ticket pack for >$25 and save cost)
  • PeruRail (Machu Picchu train)
  • PMRF Beach Cottages (Kauai)
  • Priceline
  • Primetime Shuttle (Worked from LAX-SNA)
  • rail europe on Travelocity
  • rail JR Rail in Japan, load as tourist attraction, call in to get it credit (Post#938)
  • Safari Helicopter Tour (Kauai)
  • Sandals.com resort booking (unique vacations) was not redeemable last year. Is redeemable online now
  • SEASTREAK LLC - NYC (Commuter Ferri)
  • Singapore Cable Car
  • Southwest Early Bird Check-in (billed separately from airfare charges)
  • Spirit of NY Dinner Cruises - www.spiritcruises.com, which have cruises in several other cities as well.
  • Starwood Vacation Ownership (SPG Timeshare) Westin Princeville Kauai (coded as Timeshare).
  • St Pauls Cathedral (manual redemption by phone allowed)
  • Super Shuttle (mixed, worked in SF when (billed SUPERSHUTTLE EXECUCARS), worked in Boston (SUPERSHUTTLE BOSTON), failed in LA (SUPERSHUTTLE), Worked in Cancun.
  • Taxi in Zürich
  • Top of the Rock tickets - NYC
  • Trenitalia Online
  • Trimet (Portland OR public transportation)
  • Trip Advisor Rental
  • TurboJET (Hong Kong)
  • Uber
  • Uber GC through MPX $100 (re-confirmed 11/1/2018, using Arrival Premier)
  • United Baggage Fee
  • Universal Studio Orlando tickets (had to call in)
  • Viator (sightseeing/tours)
  • Victoria Clipper (passenger ferry)
  • Wedding at the Stratosphere's Chapel in the Clouds (billed as stratosphere)
  • Windsor Castle (manual redemption by phone allowed)
  • Wine purchases from different wine tasting rooms
  • WMATA (Washington DC Metro) - [[COLOR="Red"]reconfirmed 10/5/15]
  • Zipcar

    Unsuccessful (please mention the amount redeemed - important as anything under $25 $100 cannot be reimbursed)
    Partial redemptions are possible - however you cannot redeem against that charge again. So if you have a $500 charge and you spend 40K points against it, you cannot redeem 10K points for the remaining $100 of that charge.
  • www.b-europe.com (SNCB rail)
  • Amtrak (possibly due <$25 charge)
  • Blue Water Rafting. Merchant category "Recreation Services -- Not elsewhere classified"
  • Brazil airline GOL booked online codes as DIRECT MARKETING/DIRECT MARKETERS--NOT ELESWH ..
  • budgetair.co.uk (charged >$200)
  • Car2go
  • De Palm Tours, Aruba (classified as Recreation. Called Barclay twice.)
  • Description: ZERVE *CA WHALES Merchant Category: THEATRICAL PRODUCERS (EXCEPT MOTION PICTURES), TICKET AGENCIES...Tickets to whale watching tour purchased over the phone.
  • Evan Evans Sightseeing tours (UK based)- http://www.evanevanstours.co.uk
  • Fastrak tag autoload for San Francisco bridge tolls ($25)
  • Global Entry
  • Gotobus.com Long Distance Buses, ~$100
  • Homeaway.com, posts as real estate. Barclays said they'd make a one-time exception but future purchases won't count as travel.
  • Hostelbookers.com deposit (maybe the charge which is >$25 will count?)
  • Hotels.com Gift Card
  • IHG points and cash hotel redemption
  • Malaysian Overnight Train KUL-SIN (ktmb.com.my)
  • Monterey Aquarium
  • Parking at HSV ($96 in parking at Huntsville International Airport)
  • Parking at IAH (Houston Intercontinental - on airport) -$76 (PARKING LOTS AND GARAGES)
  • Parking at LAS
  • Parking at LGA $204
  • Parking at Port Imperial, Weehawken, NJ
  • Parking at SNA (John Wayne Airport)
  • San Francisco Clipper Card public transit (autoload from website)
  • Skyjump at Stratosphere Hotel LV $150 (01/14) - not charged by hotel.
  • Space Needle and Chihuly Garden Tickets
  • Starwood points purchase (BUSINESS SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
  • Taxi Magic /Curb- Taxi service
  • Thello train (France-Italy night train, codes as rail-freight)
  • Trenitalia (both online and in stations, posts as rail-freight)
  • UBER eGift Card (bought through the UBER app) for $100 - Not coded as "travel," so couldn't redeem online and they wouldn't do it over the phone, either.



Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:

One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)

Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
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Old Aug 7, 17, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by MaxVO View Post
"Declined" means declined. It will follow in a week with a written explanation. They now seem to decline without a hard pull, if the reason is hitting their limit for this one product.
I'm only curious now if that limit is one hard number, or some kind of a formula involving the velocity of apps as well.
Didn't consider them having declined me without a hard pull. I had closed the + a couple of months ago, never churned them too soon in the past, applied about a month ago (so just about a month aft closing) and got auto-declined, called then and confirmed it was without a hard pull and the reason was having had the + up until too recently. Being that this app now showed pending, figured they might have pulled credit but didn't get a notification from Credit Karma yet (cap one tracking after app updated today and doesn't show Transunion hardpull either), so perhaps they didn't pull.

Now I am curious whether the previous app (auto-declined) might have somehow reset some kind of auto-denial clock by tripping what you suspect is another component: app velocity. I've seen recent data points on people having successfully churned the + after a couple of months even with a high nr of recent apps in the last year, so this coupled with not many new accounts for me in the last year + pretty good fico score makes me believe the recent app did me in. Perhaps they added the app velocity component to their system to weed out us/churners.

I was going to call recon, but really wanted to try to get two of their cards with one pull so perhaps will move on to some other cards and try in a few months. At that time there will be more new accounts, which is something they don't like, but yeah it seems I've hit some kind of Barclays wall.
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Old Aug 7, 17, 9:28 am
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There seems to be more denial DP in this thread lately. It'd be nice to crack their formula, if there is one. What should we include in the DP's here: the total number of A+ accounts, number of apps / year, time since the last app, any ideas?
Btw, applying for other Barclays cards might not be a bad idea -- they even suggested as much in one A+ denial letter.
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Old Aug 7, 17, 10:30 am
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There seems to be more denial DP in this thread lately. It'd be nice to crack their formula, if there is one. What should we include in the DP's here: the total number of A+ accounts, number of apps / year, time since the last app, any ideas?
As far as DP reporting, I'd also include whether or not you have a current Barclays card, if so how many, also total nr of times you've churned Arrival+ and also whether you've churned other Barclay cards.
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Old Aug 7, 17, 8:48 pm
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Wait, you did two apps the same day? I'd heard that Barclays didn't like to approve more than one card per six months, in some cases per 12 months.
I was approved Dec. last year for an A+, in May for an LH card and in July for a Red Aviator card. Not sure where you got this information.

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Old Aug 7, 17, 9:04 pm
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I was approved for an A+ Dec. last year and closed it about 3 weeks ago. Should I apply again this month? I was approved for an LH card in May and Red Aviator in July.
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Old Aug 7, 17, 9:21 pm
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I am on my 4th A+ card. I wait at least 4 mos before applying and keep it the rest of the year.
I am also on my 2nd Wyndham but waited about a year between apps .
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Old Aug 8, 17, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by HansDKNY View Post
I was approved Dec. last year for an A+, in May for an LH card and in July for a Red Aviator card. Not sure where you got this information.
Well, that's why I said "I'd heard", not stating it as a hard DP. I've seen several posts saying that on Barclays threads, but I don't remember which ones.
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Old Aug 12, 17, 1:33 am
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Any recent DP of buying a refundable ticket using Arrival+, redeeming the points, and then receiving the cancellation as a statement credit?

Thanks.
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Old Aug 12, 17, 1:57 am
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Any recent DP of buying a refundable ticket using Arrival+, redeeming the points, and then receiving the cancellation as a statement credit?

Thanks.
Worked with refundable hotels as of a few days ago. In the past 2 days however, none of my hotels.com purchases are showing as available for redemption...even though none have been refunded and are all $100+. I wonder if anyone else is seeing this? Hopefully just a glitch.
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Old Aug 12, 17, 9:55 am
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Would a Norwegian Cruise Line gift card qualify for the 500 towards travel reimbursement?
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Old Aug 12, 17, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by temporarilypoor View Post
Any recent DP of buying a refundable ticket using Arrival+, redeeming the points, and then receiving the cancellation as a statement credit?
You can redeem points within 120 days, either before or after the cancellation credit.
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Old Aug 12, 17, 10:39 pm
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Worked with refundable hotels as of a few days ago. In the past 2 days however, none of my hotels.com purchases are showing as available for redemption...even though none have been refunded and are all $100+. I wonder if anyone else is seeing this? Hopefully just a glitch.
Did the charges post to the card? Are you booking direct or through third party?
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Old Aug 13, 17, 5:03 pm
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How are they with VGC purchases?
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Old Aug 14, 17, 6:12 am
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Would a Norwegian Cruise Line gift card qualify for the 500 towards travel reimbursement?
Anyone?
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Old Aug 14, 17, 1:43 pm
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Would a Norwegian Cruise Line gift card qualify for the 500 towards travel reimbursement?
All my charges via NCL have come through as redeemable for miles.
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