May 14, 2014, 1:15 pm
Last edit by: rrgg
This thread is a continuation of the discussion posted here from 12.08.2012 - 5.13.2014: Barclays Arrival/Arrival Cards (1.05%/2.1% travel credits)
Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.
Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.
You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.
If you want, you can redeem miles to cover a portion of a travel charge instead of the full amount. For example, if you have 80k miles and a $740 airline charge, you can choose to redeem just 70k to cover $700 of the charge.
You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.
This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.
If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.
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Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious
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Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:
One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)
Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.
Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.
You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.
If you want, you can redeem miles to cover a portion of a travel charge instead of the full amount. For example, if you have 80k miles and a $740 airline charge, you can choose to redeem just 70k to cover $700 of the charge.
You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.
This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.
If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.
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Regarding official company representatives
Note that there is an official procedure for company representatives to register themselves with the FlyerTalk Community Director and verify their credentials. When that process is completed, the username will turn green in posts, rather than the standard blue.
Anyone who does not appear in green has not followed this procedure. Those posts should be considered the same as any other user's posts. It is important to remember that the moderation team does not generally monitor the veracity of any posts; it is up to you to judge a poster's content and history yourself.
Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious
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Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
- 9/11 Museum and Memorial - NYC
- Accuracy Limo (via Square, Salt Lake City, UT limo service)
- ACE Adventures (West Virginia White Water Rafting), had to call in to get it processed manually
- agoda.com
- AirAsia Flights (airasia.com)
- airbnb bookings
- airbnb GC purchased on United MPX site
- Alaska Airlines checked baggage fee $25 charge
- Amazing Bike Tours Thailand
- AA Gift Card
- American Airlines telephone booking (including booking fee)
- Amtrak train ticket >$25 (ALB-NYP)
- Amtrak train ticket >$25 (unknown destinations)
- Arrival+ Annual Fee
- Argosy Cruises (SEA, classified as RECREATION)
- Autoeurope.com
- BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) San Francisco
- Balloons over Bagan
- Bieber bus tickets
- Boston MBTA Charlie Card reload & Commuter Rail passes & tickets
- Burj Khalifa observation decks
- Buying Lifemiles from Avianca
- Capitaine Train Tickets (capitaine.com)
- Carmel Limo (NYC car service)
- carrentals.com
- cheaptickets.com hotel
- Chinese Visa Application Fees (had to call in. Credit showed up in account in 2 business days. See Post 912 and 921 for details)
- City Taxi (Tampa)
- CostcoTravel
- Cotai Waterjet (Hong Kong)
- CT Limo
- Daily Getaways purchase of HHonors points
- DB Bahn Trains Germany (bahn.de)
- Disneyland Hong Kong (Manual redemption required)
- DriveNow - all locations in EU/US
- Dublin Bus Tours Hop on, Hop off (Green)
- Eiffel Tower (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Empire State Building tickets
- Enterprise rent-a-car, paid at the counter when returning the car (used Chase United Visa initially for primary coverage, but asked to pay with a different card when returning the car)
- Eurostar Train Tickets (eurostar.com)
- Europcar.com
- Expedia.com
- Hertz Rent-a-Car (booked on hertz.com)
- Hong Kong Airport Express Pass
- Hotel bookings through Rocketmiles (even refundable bookings or those tied to other promotions)
- Hotels.com
- Hotwire
- ItaliaRail (online booking agency for TrenItalia)
- LA Swamp Tours, Steamboat cruise, Haunted History Tours (New Orleans)
- Lahaina-Maui Ferry Tickets - booked online at www.go-lanai.com
- Las Vegas Show Booked through hotel
Las Vegas show tickets booked online (Mandalay Bay Box office) - Limo Charges - Two limo charges that I made in March PRIOR the the recent changes to what qualifies as "Travel" showed up as eligible travel charges. I guess with the changes to what's covered, and for how long, these got pulled back in.
- Lyft
- M-Life advance reservation deposit
- Montway Auto Transport (deposit)
- New York City MTA Subway Cards
- New York Waterways Ferry (between NJ and NYC)
- Ngong Ping 360 (Hong Kong)
- Norwegian Cruise Line purchase made from telephone order from vacationstogo.com
- Norwegian Cruise Line (deposits and payments)
- NS Hispeed Train Tickets (nshispeed.com)
- NYC Taxi
- Orbitz.com purchase
- ORCA card for Seattle area tolls (considered the very typical GOVERNMENT SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
- Paris RATP Metro/VATP (buy 10-ticket pack for >$25 and save cost)
- PeruRail (Machu Picchu train)
- PMRF Beach Cottages (Kauai)
- Priceline
- Primetime Shuttle (Worked from LAX-SNA)
- rail europe on Travelocity
- rail JR Rail in Japan, load as tourist attraction, call in to get it credit (Post#938)
- Safari Helicopter Tour (Kauai)
- Sandals.com resort booking (unique vacations) was not redeemable last year. Is redeemable online now
- SEASTREAK LLC - NYC (Commuter Ferri)
- Singapore Cable Car
- Southwest $100 gift card
- Southwest Early Bird Check-in (billed separately from airfare charges)
- Spirit of NY Dinner Cruises - www.spiritcruises.com, which have cruises in several other cities as well.
- Starwood Vacation Ownership (SPG Timeshare) Westin Princeville Kauai (coded as Timeshare).
- St Pauls Cathedral (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Super Shuttle (mixed, worked in SF when (billed SUPERSHUTTLE EXECUCARS), worked in Boston (SUPERSHUTTLE BOSTON), failed in LA (SUPERSHUTTLE), Worked in Cancun.
- Taxi in Zürich
- Top of the Rock tickets - NYC
- Trenitalia Online
- Trimet (Portland OR public transportation)
- Trip Advisor Rental
- TurboJET (Hong Kong)
- Uber
- Uber GC through MPX $100 (re-confirmed 11/1/2018, using Arrival Premier)
- United Baggage Fee
- Universal Studio Orlando tickets (had to call in)
- Viator (sightseeing/tours)
- Victoria Clipper (passenger ferry)
- Wedding at the Stratosphere's Chapel in the Clouds (billed as stratosphere)
- Windsor Castle (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Wine purchases from different wine tasting rooms
- WMATA (Washington DC Metro) - [[COLOR="Red"]reconfirmed 10/5/15]
- Zipcar
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Partial redemptions are possible - however you cannot redeem against that charge again. So if you have a $500 charge and you spend 40K points against it, you cannot redeem 10K points for the remaining $100 of that charge. - www.b-europe.com (SNCB rail)
- Amtrak (possibly due <$25 charge)
- Blue Water Rafting. Merchant category "Recreation Services -- Not elsewhere classified"
- Brazil airline GOL booked online codes as DIRECT MARKETING/DIRECT MARKETERS--NOT ELESWH ..
- Broadmoor Hotel Food and Beverage (Colorado Spring, CO)
- budgetair.co.uk (charged >$200)
- Car2go
- De Palm Tours, Aruba (classified as Recreation. Called Barclay twice.)
- Description: ZERVE *CA WHALES Merchant Category: THEATRICAL PRODUCERS (EXCEPT MOTION PICTURES), TICKET AGENCIES...Tickets to whale watching tour purchased over the phone.
- Evan Evans Sightseeing tours (UK based)- http://www.evanevanstours.co.uk
- Fastrak tag autoload for San Francisco bridge tolls ($25)
- Global Entry
- Gotobus.com Long Distance Buses, ~$100
- Homeaway.com, posts as real estate. Barclays said they'd make a one-time exception but future purchases won't count as travel.
- Hostelbookers.com deposit (maybe the charge which is >$25 will count?)
- Hotels.com Gift Card
- IHG points and cash hotel redemption
- Malaysian Overnight Train KUL-SIN (ktmb.com.my)
- Monterey Aquarium
- Parking at DCA - $136 (7/9/19)
- Parking at HSV ($96 in parking at Huntsville International Airport)
- Parking at IAH (Houston Intercontinental - on airport) -$76 (PARKING LOTS AND GARAGES)
- Parking at LAS
- Parking at LGA $204
- Parking at Port Imperial, Weehawken, NJ
- Parking at SNA (John Wayne Airport)
- San Francisco Clipper Card public transit (autoload from website)
- Skyjump at Stratosphere Hotel LV $150 (01/14) - not charged by hotel.
- Space Needle and Chihuly Garden Tickets
- Starwood points purchase (BUSINESS SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
- Taxi Magic /Curb- Taxi service
- Thello train (France-Italy night train, codes as rail-freight)
- Trenitalia (both online and in stations, posts as rail-freight)
- UBER eGift Card (bought through the UBER app) for $100 - Not coded as "travel," so couldn't redeem online and they wouldn't do it over the phone, either.
Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:
One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)
Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
Barclays Arrival Plus, now 70K w/$5k spend
Jun 24, 2015, 6:49 pm
#2401
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 4
Please anyone know if cancelling the other card and applying immediately will work?
Jun 24, 2015, 7:21 pm
#2402
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 91
Not a fan of the Arrival+ so far. Their fraud protection is a bit heavy handed and just about everything gets rejected until I call them. They said they are building a profile of my spending, and until it is done....I am SOL. An order on my Amazon account got rejected for chrissakes. This is incredibly obnoxious.
Jun 24, 2015, 7:51 pm
#2403
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 409
Strange. I wonder why they have you so locked down. Haven't experienced that at all.
Not a fan of the Arrival+ so far. Their fraud protection is a bit heavy handed and just about everything gets rejected until I call them. They said they are building a profile of my spending, and until it is done....I am SOL. An order on my Amazon account got rejected for chrissakes. This is incredibly obnoxious.
Jun 24, 2015, 7:57 pm
#2404
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 91
Really? That is very strange. I did the instant approval online thing and got a $7500 credit limit. Set things up online alright with my pin # and all, but once the first thing got rejected, everything else did as well, even though I called and had them tell me everything was good to go before proceeding. Hopefully after things get sorted with the online orders I made today, everything runs smoothly. I'd hate to have to cancel the card before earning anything from it, but I am also not down to spend 30 to 60 minutes a day on the phone waiting to chat.
Jun 24, 2015, 9:53 pm
#2405
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Indianapolis
Programs: Hilton-Diamond Lifetime Platinum AA UA, WN-CP, SPG Gold.
Posts: 7,377
Sounds like a lot of Hard a Pulls,
Take a pass, do not think they are going to give you a card ,,try again in 6 months...
Take a pass, do not think they are going to give you a card ,,try again in 6 months...
Jun 24, 2015, 10:07 pm
#2406
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 4
Thank you for the reply, I will try applying for a card with chase then as it is time for me to churn for a new reward.
Jun 25, 2015, 12:12 pm
#2407
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: USA
Programs: Chase Ultimate, Amex, Delta, AA, BA Avios, United, US Airways, Marriott, Hilton
Posts: 260
Have one data point from a friend.
He was in same situation.
He cancelled and then reapplied one month later....was declined.
Reapplied 2 months after decline (3 months after closing original Arrival)...went pending and then approved.
So...wait 3 mos atleast.
This guy also had 800+ credit and not many inquiries either. So wait longer if you are in worse shape than him.
Barclay is very stingy with cards to begin with, so keep that in mind as well.
He was in same situation.
He cancelled and then reapplied one month later....was declined.
Reapplied 2 months after decline (3 months after closing original Arrival)...went pending and then approved.
So...wait 3 mos atleast.
This guy also had 800+ credit and not many inquiries either. So wait longer if you are in worse shape than him.
Barclay is very stingy with cards to begin with, so keep that in mind as well.
Jun 25, 2015, 7:30 pm
#2408
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: BNE
Programs: AAdvantage, VA Velocity, QF Frequent Flyer, SQ KrisFlyer, Sixt Platinum, Europcar Executive, Accor
Posts: 25
Really? That is very strange. I did the instant approval online thing and got a $7500 credit limit. Set things up online alright with my pin # and all, but once the first thing got rejected, everything else did as well, even though I called and had them tell me everything was good to go before proceeding. Hopefully after things get sorted with the online orders I made today, everything runs smoothly. I'd hate to have to cancel the card before earning anything from it, but I am also not down to spend 30 to 60 minutes a day on the phone waiting to chat.
Jun 25, 2015, 9:39 pm
#2409
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Programs: HiltonH-Diamond, IHG-Plat, Hyatt-Diamond,SPG-newbie
Posts: 301
Strange , unable to redeem for our unversial studio Hollywood tix. Even when call in
Jun 26, 2015, 7:22 am
#2410
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: MDT
Programs: DL, AA
Posts: 390
I was just instantly approved for my 2nd Arrival+. $7500 CL.
Nov/Dec 2013: Approved for 1st Arrival+.
February 2015: Closed 1st Arrival+
March 24th 2015: Approved for US Airways.
June 26th 2015: Approved for 2nd Arrival+.
I'll report back if I get the miles when I meet the spend, probably mid July.
Nov/Dec 2013: Approved for 1st Arrival+.
February 2015: Closed 1st Arrival+
March 24th 2015: Approved for US Airways.
June 26th 2015: Approved for 2nd Arrival+.
I'll report back if I get the miles when I meet the spend, probably mid July.
Jun 26, 2015, 6:00 pm
#2411
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 91
Does anyone know off-hand if I can set it up to get account info on the Arrival+ by text? Like to see current remaining limit, etc...
Also, Anyone have any idea when my first bill would be due relative to when I received the card (or relative to when the card was approved)?
Also, Anyone have any idea when my first bill would be due relative to when I received the card (or relative to when the card was approved)?
Jun 26, 2015, 7:42 pm
#2412
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist No More..., Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,375
Does anyone know off-hand if I can set it up to get account info on the Arrival+ by text? Like to see current remaining limit, etc...
Also, Anyone have any idea when my first bill would be due relative to when I received the card (or relative to when the card was approved)?
Also, Anyone have any idea when my first bill would be due relative to when I received the card (or relative to when the card was approved)?
Jun 26, 2015, 7:43 pm
#2413
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist No More..., Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,375
Jun 26, 2015, 8:01 pm
#2414
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 91
One note for people since I saw a few upthread had issues abroad with the card: When setting up my pin # just now, it said my first use of the card outside of the US needs to be at a manned kiosk or hotel or something like that. And only after it is used like that the first time can it be used for unmanned things....just something to keep in mind!
Jun 27, 2015, 12:33 am
#2415
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
One note for people since I saw a few upthread had issues abroad with the card: When setting up my pin # just now, it said my first use of the card outside of the US needs to be at a manned kiosk or hotel or something like that. And only after it is used like that the first time can it be used for unmanned things....just something to keep in mind!
The chip needs to be updated for the PIN info - the only way to do it is to have a PIN and signature transaction by inserting the card to the PIN-enabled register - when the transaction is processed, your PIN is also downloaded to the chip on your card, thus now the PIN is stored in the chip.
Until the update is done, the PIN is not programmed in the chip. If you do not go to WalMart before you travel overseas, you then must do your transaction at the "manned" POS first before your card would work with the "unmanned" Kiosk.