May 14, 2014, 1:15 pm
Last edit by: rrgg
This thread is a continuation of the discussion posted here from 12.08.2012 - 5.13.2014: Barclays Arrival/Arrival Cards (1.05%/2.1% travel credits)
Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.
Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.
You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.
If you want, you can redeem miles to cover a portion of a travel charge instead of the full amount. For example, if you have 80k miles and a $740 airline charge, you can choose to redeem just 70k to cover $700 of the charge.
You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.
This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.
If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.
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Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious
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Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:
One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)
Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.
Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.
You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.
If you want, you can redeem miles to cover a portion of a travel charge instead of the full amount. For example, if you have 80k miles and a $740 airline charge, you can choose to redeem just 70k to cover $700 of the charge.
You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.
This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.
If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.
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Regarding official company representatives
Note that there is an official procedure for company representatives to register themselves with the FlyerTalk Community Director and verify their credentials. When that process is completed, the username will turn green in posts, rather than the standard blue.
Anyone who does not appear in green has not followed this procedure. Those posts should be considered the same as any other user's posts. It is important to remember that the moderation team does not generally monitor the veracity of any posts; it is up to you to judge a poster's content and history yourself.
Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious
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Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
- 9/11 Museum and Memorial - NYC
- Accuracy Limo (via Square, Salt Lake City, UT limo service)
- ACE Adventures (West Virginia White Water Rafting), had to call in to get it processed manually
- agoda.com
- AirAsia Flights (airasia.com)
- airbnb bookings
- airbnb GC purchased on United MPX site
- Alaska Airlines checked baggage fee $25 charge
- Amazing Bike Tours Thailand
- AA Gift Card
- American Airlines telephone booking (including booking fee)
- Amtrak train ticket >$25 (ALB-NYP)
- Amtrak train ticket >$25 (unknown destinations)
- Arrival+ Annual Fee
- Argosy Cruises (SEA, classified as RECREATION)
- Autoeurope.com
- BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) San Francisco
- Balloons over Bagan
- Bieber bus tickets
- Boston MBTA Charlie Card reload & Commuter Rail passes & tickets
- Burj Khalifa observation decks
- Buying Lifemiles from Avianca
- Capitaine Train Tickets (capitaine.com)
- Carmel Limo (NYC car service)
- carrentals.com
- cheaptickets.com hotel
- Chinese Visa Application Fees (had to call in. Credit showed up in account in 2 business days. See Post 912 and 921 for details)
- City Taxi (Tampa)
- CostcoTravel
- Cotai Waterjet (Hong Kong)
- CT Limo
- Daily Getaways purchase of HHonors points
- DB Bahn Trains Germany (bahn.de)
- Disneyland Hong Kong (Manual redemption required)
- DriveNow - all locations in EU/US
- Dublin Bus Tours Hop on, Hop off (Green)
- Eiffel Tower (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Empire State Building tickets
- Enterprise rent-a-car, paid at the counter when returning the car (used Chase United Visa initially for primary coverage, but asked to pay with a different card when returning the car)
- Eurostar Train Tickets (eurostar.com)
- Europcar.com
- Expedia.com
- Hertz Rent-a-Car (booked on hertz.com)
- Hong Kong Airport Express Pass
- Hotel bookings through Rocketmiles (even refundable bookings or those tied to other promotions)
- Hotels.com
- Hotwire
- ItaliaRail (online booking agency for TrenItalia)
- LA Swamp Tours, Steamboat cruise, Haunted History Tours (New Orleans)
- Lahaina-Maui Ferry Tickets - booked online at www.go-lanai.com
- Las Vegas Show Booked through hotel
Las Vegas show tickets booked online (Mandalay Bay Box office) - Limo Charges - Two limo charges that I made in March PRIOR the the recent changes to what qualifies as "Travel" showed up as eligible travel charges. I guess with the changes to what's covered, and for how long, these got pulled back in.
- Lyft
- M-Life advance reservation deposit
- Montway Auto Transport (deposit)
- New York City MTA Subway Cards
- New York Waterways Ferry (between NJ and NYC)
- Ngong Ping 360 (Hong Kong)
- Norwegian Cruise Line purchase made from telephone order from vacationstogo.com
- Norwegian Cruise Line (deposits and payments)
- NS Hispeed Train Tickets (nshispeed.com)
- NYC Taxi
- Orbitz.com purchase
- ORCA card for Seattle area tolls (considered the very typical GOVERNMENT SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
- Paris RATP Metro/VATP (buy 10-ticket pack for >$25 and save cost)
- PeruRail (Machu Picchu train)
- PMRF Beach Cottages (Kauai)
- Priceline
- Primetime Shuttle (Worked from LAX-SNA)
- rail europe on Travelocity
- rail JR Rail in Japan, load as tourist attraction, call in to get it credit (Post#938)
- Safari Helicopter Tour (Kauai)
- Sandals.com resort booking (unique vacations) was not redeemable last year. Is redeemable online now
- SEASTREAK LLC - NYC (Commuter Ferri)
- Singapore Cable Car
- Southwest $100 gift card
- Southwest Early Bird Check-in (billed separately from airfare charges)
- Spirit of NY Dinner Cruises - www.spiritcruises.com, which have cruises in several other cities as well.
- Starwood Vacation Ownership (SPG Timeshare) Westin Princeville Kauai (coded as Timeshare).
- St Pauls Cathedral (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Super Shuttle (mixed, worked in SF when (billed SUPERSHUTTLE EXECUCARS), worked in Boston (SUPERSHUTTLE BOSTON), failed in LA (SUPERSHUTTLE), Worked in Cancun.
- Taxi in Zürich
- Top of the Rock tickets - NYC
- Trenitalia Online
- Trimet (Portland OR public transportation)
- Trip Advisor Rental
- TurboJET (Hong Kong)
- Uber
- Uber GC through MPX $100 (re-confirmed 11/1/2018, using Arrival Premier)
- United Baggage Fee
- Universal Studio Orlando tickets (had to call in)
- Viator (sightseeing/tours)
- Victoria Clipper (passenger ferry)
- Wedding at the Stratosphere's Chapel in the Clouds (billed as stratosphere)
- Windsor Castle (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Wine purchases from different wine tasting rooms
- WMATA (Washington DC Metro) - [[COLOR="Red"]reconfirmed 10/5/15]
- Zipcar
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Partial redemptions are possible - however you cannot redeem against that charge again. So if you have a $500 charge and you spend 40K points against it, you cannot redeem 10K points for the remaining $100 of that charge. - www.b-europe.com (SNCB rail)
- Amtrak (possibly due <$25 charge)
- Blue Water Rafting. Merchant category "Recreation Services -- Not elsewhere classified"
- Brazil airline GOL booked online codes as DIRECT MARKETING/DIRECT MARKETERS--NOT ELESWH ..
- Broadmoor Hotel Food and Beverage (Colorado Spring, CO)
- budgetair.co.uk (charged >$200)
- Car2go
- De Palm Tours, Aruba (classified as Recreation. Called Barclay twice.)
- Description: ZERVE *CA WHALES Merchant Category: THEATRICAL PRODUCERS (EXCEPT MOTION PICTURES), TICKET AGENCIES...Tickets to whale watching tour purchased over the phone.
- Evan Evans Sightseeing tours (UK based)- http://www.evanevanstours.co.uk
- Fastrak tag autoload for San Francisco bridge tolls ($25)
- Global Entry
- Gotobus.com Long Distance Buses, ~$100
- Homeaway.com, posts as real estate. Barclays said they'd make a one-time exception but future purchases won't count as travel.
- Hostelbookers.com deposit (maybe the charge which is >$25 will count?)
- Hotels.com Gift Card
- IHG points and cash hotel redemption
- Malaysian Overnight Train KUL-SIN (ktmb.com.my)
- Monterey Aquarium
- Parking at DCA - $136 (7/9/19)
- Parking at HSV ($96 in parking at Huntsville International Airport)
- Parking at IAH (Houston Intercontinental - on airport) -$76 (PARKING LOTS AND GARAGES)
- Parking at LAS
- Parking at LGA $204
- Parking at Port Imperial, Weehawken, NJ
- Parking at SNA (John Wayne Airport)
- San Francisco Clipper Card public transit (autoload from website)
- Skyjump at Stratosphere Hotel LV $150 (01/14) - not charged by hotel.
- Space Needle and Chihuly Garden Tickets
- Starwood points purchase (BUSINESS SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
- Taxi Magic /Curb- Taxi service
- Thello train (France-Italy night train, codes as rail-freight)
- Trenitalia (both online and in stations, posts as rail-freight)
- UBER eGift Card (bought through the UBER app) for $100 - Not coded as "travel," so couldn't redeem online and they wouldn't do it over the phone, either.
Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:
One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)
Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
Barclays Arrival Plus, now 70K w/$5k spend
Sep 13, 2017, 2:42 pm
#3946
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,166
The DoC post has lots of denials due to cards opened in the past 24 months too. Must be a shift in policy at Barclays unfortunately.
Sep 15, 2017, 12:27 pm
#3947
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: HH Gold (again), US/UA/DL non-elite, ZE Presidents Circle, WN reluctant no fee convert.
Posts: 1,449
Specific question on rounding redemption(s)
RE: Barclay Arrival
Was wondering on the basis of experience if someone could answer regarding how to get the best bang for the buck on redemptions when the points on account are insufficient for total giveback.
I want to buy an airline ticket for my DD for Oct. travel, since she won't make it home for the holidays. I am planning on a FC ticket for about $377 on AA. I definitely won't spend enough on the Arrival even in 90 days to reach enough to hit the total.
What should I plan on for points strategy? Does Barclay do partial redemptions over $100 by rounding to the twenty-fives?
To be more specific, the coach fare is $255.00, so in my mind if I get, say, $250 back, that would be acceptable. But is it realistic to think that on a $377 ticket, I could expect Barclay to offer such a variable option? What would be an approximate expectation, if anybody knows?
Thanks for reading.
Was wondering on the basis of experience if someone could answer regarding how to get the best bang for the buck on redemptions when the points on account are insufficient for total giveback.
I want to buy an airline ticket for my DD for Oct. travel, since she won't make it home for the holidays. I am planning on a FC ticket for about $377 on AA. I definitely won't spend enough on the Arrival even in 90 days to reach enough to hit the total.
What should I plan on for points strategy? Does Barclay do partial redemptions over $100 by rounding to the twenty-fives?
To be more specific, the coach fare is $255.00, so in my mind if I get, say, $250 back, that would be acceptable. But is it realistic to think that on a $377 ticket, I could expect Barclay to offer such a variable option? What would be an approximate expectation, if anybody knows?
Thanks for reading.
Sep 16, 2017, 12:15 am
#3948
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 448
My 1st and 2nd statement closed on the 17th of each month (a Mon & a Thur). I assume my 3rd will be on the 17th (though perhaps on the 18th, since the 17th is a Sun). Yesterday morning, the 15th, I made a large purchase that put me over the $3k spending requirement for the sign-up bonus.
Does the charge have to post before my third statement closes to satisfy the sign up bonus requirement? Or does the fact that the transaction date is before the date of the third statement satisfy the sign up bonus requirement?
Does the charge have to post before my third statement closes to satisfy the sign up bonus requirement? Or does the fact that the transaction date is before the date of the third statement satisfy the sign up bonus requirement?
Sep 16, 2017, 8:11 pm
#3949
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: HH Gold (again), US/UA/DL non-elite, ZE Presidents Circle, WN reluctant no fee convert.
Posts: 1,449
The charge only has to move from pending to posted for one to achieve bonus points if the minimum spend is met.
It is one of the better benefits over other cards that one doesn't have to wait for a statement to cycle to obtain the points.
It is one of the better benefits over other cards that one doesn't have to wait for a statement to cycle to obtain the points.
Sep 18, 2017, 8:33 am
#3950
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,595
Seems like the Arrival card now has some sort of x/24 rule.................https://www.doctorofcredit.com/is-ba...a-points-here/
Sep 18, 2017, 8:43 am
#3951
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,166
Seems like the Arrival card now has some sort of x/24 rule.................https://www.doctorofcredit.com/is-ba...a-points-here/
Sep 18, 2017, 12:12 pm
#3952
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,595
my guess is 2/24 had other problems besides new cards, if it's 2/24 may as well be once in a lifetime , 6/24 we can make work as my wife will be 0/24 in November.
Sep 18, 2017, 1:27 pm
#3953
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Total Rewards Diamond, Delta Gold, Starwood Gold, Mosaic
Posts: 235
Another DP: declined for Arrival+. Just closed my last one less than a month ago (which had been open for a year). Credit analyst cited too many accounts open in the last 12 months (interesting he didn't say 24 months). However, I was approved for the Aviator 60K and needed to restock my AA miles so all good.
Sep 18, 2017, 3:52 pm
#3955
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,595
Another DP: declined for Arrival+. Just closed my last one less than a month ago (which had been open for a year). Credit analyst cited too many accounts open in the last 12 months (interesting he didn't say 24 months). However, I was approved for the Aviator 60K and needed to restock my AA miles so all good.
Did you ever have the aviator ? Interested in DP's with the new 24 month language
Hopefully we'll get some more concrete info on what the rule actually is, I had an Arrival planned as my last card in 2017 before I go card free for 2 years so this changes things.
MY wife will be 0/24 in November, Southwest Companion pass first, probably a CSP third then an Arrival as # 4 then Marriott.
BTW, there are 2 BOA travel rewards cards, each gives $250 for spending a $1000. Not sure on churnabilty as they have NAF and I plan on keeping them both ( one is a business) ope long term to keep the relationship alive
Sep 18, 2017, 4:48 pm
#3956
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,467
There is NO 24 month language (it was just a blind guess). The existing DPs are all over the place. There's no simplistic formula for the A+ denials.
Sep 18, 2017, 5:00 pm
#3957
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Total Rewards Diamond, Delta Gold, Starwood Gold, Mosaic
Posts: 235
Did you ever have the aviator ? Interested in DP's with the new 24 month language
Hopefully we'll get some more concrete info on what the rule actually is, I had an Arrival planned as my last card in 2017 before I go card free for 2 years so this changes things.
MY wife will be 0/24 in November, Southwest Companion pass first, probably a CSP third then an Arrival as # 4 then Marriott.
BTW, there are 2 BOA travel rewards cards, each gives $250 for spending a $1000. Not sure on churnabilty as they have NAF and I plan on keeping them both ( one is a business) ope long term to keep the relationship alive
Hopefully we'll get some more concrete info on what the rule actually is, I had an Arrival planned as my last card in 2017 before I go card free for 2 years so this changes things.
MY wife will be 0/24 in November, Southwest Companion pass first, probably a CSP third then an Arrival as # 4 then Marriott.
BTW, there are 2 BOA travel rewards cards, each gives $250 for spending a $1000. Not sure on churnabilty as they have NAF and I plan on keeping them both ( one is a business) ope long term to keep the relationship alive
Sep 18, 2017, 5:31 pm
#3958
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,595
Last edited by flyer4512; Sep 18, 2017 at 5:41 pm
Sep 18, 2017, 5:38 pm
#3959
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,595
Nope never had the aviator. Funny thing is I was approved for a Plat Select a week ago. If 0/24, why not go for another UR earning card over the Marriott. So many Chase cards I'd rather have over the Marriott. Marriott might be one of the worst co-branded airline/hotel Chase cards out there.
The First 2 cards she will get wil be Southwest for CP, we get great value out of Marriott points as we transfer to travel packages and have Courtyards that we use that are 20K or ~$200 night. Hoping to see a 100k offer when we are ready
I thought there was a new rule where you could only have one Sapphire card
For us the worst we see is United, we have 170k that is basically useless, need to get another UA to redeem for gift cards
Last edited by flyer4512; Sep 18, 2017 at 5:58 pm
Sep 18, 2017, 9:56 pm
#3960
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Total Rewards Diamond, Delta Gold, Starwood Gold, Mosaic
Posts: 235
Platinum Select is from Citibank, Aviator is Barclay. I just started getting AA mailers so I have a few of those cards and more planned.
The First 2 cards she will get wil be Southwest for CP, we get great value out of Marriott points as we transfer to travel packages and have Courtyards that we use that are 20K or ~$200 night. Hoping to see a 100k offer when we are ready
I thought there was a new rule where you could only have one Sapphire card
For us the worst we see is United, we have 170k that is basically useless, need to get another UA to redeem for gift cards
The First 2 cards she will get wil be Southwest for CP, we get great value out of Marriott points as we transfer to travel packages and have Courtyards that we use that are 20K or ~$200 night. Hoping to see a 100k offer when we are ready
I thought there was a new rule where you could only have one Sapphire card
For us the worst we see is United, we have 170k that is basically useless, need to get another UA to redeem for gift cards
Edit: had a total brainfart and confused the plat select with the us airways mc
