May 14, 2014, 1:15 pm
Last edit by: rrgg
This thread is a continuation of the discussion posted here from 12.08.2012 - 5.13.2014: Barclays Arrival/Arrival Cards (1.05%/2.1% travel credits)
Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.
Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.
You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.
If you want, you can redeem miles to cover a portion of a travel charge instead of the full amount. For example, if you have 80k miles and a $740 airline charge, you can choose to redeem just 70k to cover $700 of the charge.
You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.
This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.
If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.
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Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious
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Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:
One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)
Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.
Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.
You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.
If you want, you can redeem miles to cover a portion of a travel charge instead of the full amount. For example, if you have 80k miles and a $740 airline charge, you can choose to redeem just 70k to cover $700 of the charge.
You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.
This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.
If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.
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Regarding official company representatives
Note that there is an official procedure for company representatives to register themselves with the FlyerTalk Community Director and verify their credentials. When that process is completed, the username will turn green in posts, rather than the standard blue.
Anyone who does not appear in green has not followed this procedure. Those posts should be considered the same as any other user's posts. It is important to remember that the moderation team does not generally monitor the veracity of any posts; it is up to you to judge a poster's content and history yourself.
Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious
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Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
- 9/11 Museum and Memorial - NYC
- Accuracy Limo (via Square, Salt Lake City, UT limo service)
- ACE Adventures (West Virginia White Water Rafting), had to call in to get it processed manually
- agoda.com
- AirAsia Flights (airasia.com)
- airbnb bookings
- airbnb GC purchased on United MPX site
- Alaska Airlines checked baggage fee $25 charge
- Amazing Bike Tours Thailand
- AA Gift Card
- American Airlines telephone booking (including booking fee)
- Amtrak train ticket >$25 (ALB-NYP)
- Amtrak train ticket >$25 (unknown destinations)
- Arrival+ Annual Fee
- Argosy Cruises (SEA, classified as RECREATION)
- Autoeurope.com
- BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) San Francisco
- Balloons over Bagan
- Bieber bus tickets
- Boston MBTA Charlie Card reload & Commuter Rail passes & tickets
- Burj Khalifa observation decks
- Buying Lifemiles from Avianca
- Capitaine Train Tickets (capitaine.com)
- Carmel Limo (NYC car service)
- carrentals.com
- cheaptickets.com hotel
- Chinese Visa Application Fees (had to call in. Credit showed up in account in 2 business days. See Post 912 and 921 for details)
- City Taxi (Tampa)
- CostcoTravel
- Cotai Waterjet (Hong Kong)
- CT Limo
- Daily Getaways purchase of HHonors points
- DB Bahn Trains Germany (bahn.de)
- Disneyland Hong Kong (Manual redemption required)
- DriveNow - all locations in EU/US
- Dublin Bus Tours Hop on, Hop off (Green)
- Eiffel Tower (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Empire State Building tickets
- Enterprise rent-a-car, paid at the counter when returning the car (used Chase United Visa initially for primary coverage, but asked to pay with a different card when returning the car)
- Eurostar Train Tickets (eurostar.com)
- Europcar.com
- Expedia.com
- Hertz Rent-a-Car (booked on hertz.com)
- Hong Kong Airport Express Pass
- Hotel bookings through Rocketmiles (even refundable bookings or those tied to other promotions)
- Hotels.com
- Hotwire
- ItaliaRail (online booking agency for TrenItalia)
- LA Swamp Tours, Steamboat cruise, Haunted History Tours (New Orleans)
- Lahaina-Maui Ferry Tickets - booked online at www.go-lanai.com
- Las Vegas Show Booked through hotel
Las Vegas show tickets booked online (Mandalay Bay Box office) - Limo Charges - Two limo charges that I made in March PRIOR the the recent changes to what qualifies as "Travel" showed up as eligible travel charges. I guess with the changes to what's covered, and for how long, these got pulled back in.
- Lyft
- M-Life advance reservation deposit
- Montway Auto Transport (deposit)
- New York City MTA Subway Cards
- New York Waterways Ferry (between NJ and NYC)
- Ngong Ping 360 (Hong Kong)
- Norwegian Cruise Line purchase made from telephone order from vacationstogo.com
- Norwegian Cruise Line (deposits and payments)
- NS Hispeed Train Tickets (nshispeed.com)
- NYC Taxi
- Orbitz.com purchase
- ORCA card for Seattle area tolls (considered the very typical GOVERNMENT SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
- Paris RATP Metro/VATP (buy 10-ticket pack for >$25 and save cost)
- PeruRail (Machu Picchu train)
- PMRF Beach Cottages (Kauai)
- Priceline
- Primetime Shuttle (Worked from LAX-SNA)
- rail europe on Travelocity
- rail JR Rail in Japan, load as tourist attraction, call in to get it credit (Post#938)
- Safari Helicopter Tour (Kauai)
- Sandals.com resort booking (unique vacations) was not redeemable last year. Is redeemable online now
- SEASTREAK LLC - NYC (Commuter Ferri)
- Singapore Cable Car
- Southwest $100 gift card
- Southwest Early Bird Check-in (billed separately from airfare charges)
- Spirit of NY Dinner Cruises - www.spiritcruises.com, which have cruises in several other cities as well.
- Starwood Vacation Ownership (SPG Timeshare) Westin Princeville Kauai (coded as Timeshare).
- St Pauls Cathedral (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Super Shuttle (mixed, worked in SF when (billed SUPERSHUTTLE EXECUCARS), worked in Boston (SUPERSHUTTLE BOSTON), failed in LA (SUPERSHUTTLE), Worked in Cancun.
- Taxi in Zürich
- Top of the Rock tickets - NYC
- Trenitalia Online
- Trimet (Portland OR public transportation)
- Trip Advisor Rental
- TurboJET (Hong Kong)
- Uber
- Uber GC through MPX $100 (re-confirmed 11/1/2018, using Arrival Premier)
- United Baggage Fee
- Universal Studio Orlando tickets (had to call in)
- Viator (sightseeing/tours)
- Victoria Clipper (passenger ferry)
- Wedding at the Stratosphere's Chapel in the Clouds (billed as stratosphere)
- Windsor Castle (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Wine purchases from different wine tasting rooms
- WMATA (Washington DC Metro) - [[COLOR="Red"]reconfirmed 10/5/15]
- Zipcar
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Partial redemptions are possible - however you cannot redeem against that charge again. So if you have a $500 charge and you spend 40K points against it, you cannot redeem 10K points for the remaining $100 of that charge. - www.b-europe.com (SNCB rail)
- Amtrak (possibly due <$25 charge)
- Blue Water Rafting. Merchant category "Recreation Services -- Not elsewhere classified"
- Brazil airline GOL booked online codes as DIRECT MARKETING/DIRECT MARKETERS--NOT ELESWH ..
- Broadmoor Hotel Food and Beverage (Colorado Spring, CO)
- budgetair.co.uk (charged >$200)
- Car2go
- De Palm Tours, Aruba (classified as Recreation. Called Barclay twice.)
- Description: ZERVE *CA WHALES Merchant Category: THEATRICAL PRODUCERS (EXCEPT MOTION PICTURES), TICKET AGENCIES...Tickets to whale watching tour purchased over the phone.
- Evan Evans Sightseeing tours (UK based)- http://www.evanevanstours.co.uk
- Fastrak tag autoload for San Francisco bridge tolls ($25)
- Global Entry
- Gotobus.com Long Distance Buses, ~$100
- Homeaway.com, posts as real estate. Barclays said they'd make a one-time exception but future purchases won't count as travel.
- Hostelbookers.com deposit (maybe the charge which is >$25 will count?)
- Hotels.com Gift Card
- IHG points and cash hotel redemption
- Malaysian Overnight Train KUL-SIN (ktmb.com.my)
- Monterey Aquarium
- Parking at DCA - $136 (7/9/19)
- Parking at HSV ($96 in parking at Huntsville International Airport)
- Parking at IAH (Houston Intercontinental - on airport) -$76 (PARKING LOTS AND GARAGES)
- Parking at LAS
- Parking at LGA $204
- Parking at Port Imperial, Weehawken, NJ
- Parking at SNA (John Wayne Airport)
- San Francisco Clipper Card public transit (autoload from website)
- Skyjump at Stratosphere Hotel LV $150 (01/14) - not charged by hotel.
- Space Needle and Chihuly Garden Tickets
- Starwood points purchase (BUSINESS SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
- Taxi Magic /Curb- Taxi service
- Thello train (France-Italy night train, codes as rail-freight)
- Trenitalia (both online and in stations, posts as rail-freight)
- UBER eGift Card (bought through the UBER app) for $100 - Not coded as "travel," so couldn't redeem online and they wouldn't do it over the phone, either.
Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:
One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)
Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
Barclays Arrival Plus, now 70K w/$5k spend
Sep 28, 2018, 10:16 am
#4111
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 406
Applied for the 2nd time on December 2016 and downgrade the card on February 2018.
Is it too soon to apply for the card again? Anyone with luck getting this card for the 3rd time?
Thanks
Is it too soon to apply for the card again? Anyone with luck getting this card for the 3rd time?
Thanks
Sep 30, 2018, 8:24 am
#4112
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SF Bay area
Posts: 269
Anyone noticing the terms now say "You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program. In addition, you may not be eligible for this offer if, at any time during our relationship with you, we have cause, as determined by us in our sole discretion, to suspect that the account is being obtained or will be used for abusive or gaming activity (such as, but not limited to, obtaining or using the account to maximize rewards earned in a manner that is not consistent with typical consumer activity and/or multiple credit card account applications/openings)."
Oct 1, 2018, 10:22 am
#4113
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: Hilton - Diamond, IHG - Spire Amb
Posts: 901
Anyone noticing the terms now say "You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program. In addition, you may not be eligible for this offer if, at any time during our relationship with you, we have cause, as determined by us in our sole discretion, to suspect that the account is being obtained or will be used for abusive or gaming activity (such as, but not limited to, obtaining or using the account to maximize rewards earned in a manner that is not consistent with typical consumer activity and/or multiple credit card account applications/openings)."
This continues to be one of my semi annual churns.
Oct 1, 2018, 11:05 am
#4114
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 60
Anyone noticing the terms now say "You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program. In addition, you may not be eligible for this offer if, at any time during our relationship with you, we have cause, as determined by us in our sole discretion, to suspect that the account is being obtained or will be used for abusive or gaming activity (such as, but not limited to, obtaining or using the account to maximize rewards earned in a manner that is not consistent with typical consumer activity and/or multiple credit card account applications/openings)."
I am optimistic that the points will post in the next couple of weeks after statement #2 cycles. If not, then churning of this card could be dead.
Oct 1, 2018, 8:44 pm
#4115
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 433
I was approved for the Arrival Plus the very end of August 60K after 5K spend $89 A.F.. First statement closed with $ 89 A.F.about a week ago.
Called today and asked if I could be matched to the new identical offer but with A.F. waived for the first year.
After a brief hold to my amazement was told yes but that it would take 60 days for the refund to post. I was given a reference number and when I see it I'll believe it.
Just thought I'd post this as it may be worth your while to try.
P.S. Tried this first by secure message and they wrote back for me to call in for better service.
Called today and asked if I could be matched to the new identical offer but with A.F. waived for the first year.
After a brief hold to my amazement was told yes but that it would take 60 days for the refund to post. I was given a reference number and when I see it I'll believe it.
Just thought I'd post this as it may be worth your while to try.
P.S. Tried this first by secure message and they wrote back for me to call in for better service.
Last edited by rover4618; Oct 8, 2018 at 2:46 pm
Oct 5, 2018, 10:51 pm
#4116
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: Hilton Gold, SPG Gold, CC Gold, UA Silver
Posts: 433
Anyone have $89 Annual fee card not waived for first year and get it waived under new offer. Tried via phone and secure message and failed. I have only had card for 2 months. Thanks
Oct 6, 2018, 9:09 am
#4117
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
Anyone noticing the terms now say "You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program. In addition, you may not be eligible for this offer if, at any time during our relationship with you, we have cause, as determined by us in our sole discretion, to suspect that the account is being obtained or will be used for abusive or gaming activity (such as, but not limited to, obtaining or using the account to maximize rewards earned in a manner that is not consistent with typical consumer activity and/or multiple credit card account applications/openings)."
Oct 7, 2018, 10:45 am
#4118
Join Date: Sep 2011
Programs: Virgin Atlantic Silver, IHG Diamond, Bonvoy Gold, Hilton Diamond, AA Platinum Pro
Posts: 1,386
I signed up for the Barclays Arrival Premier before they started waiving the fee. I sent a message and after a few days the fee was refunded. The circumstances may be different though because it was probably important for them to keep Premier cardholders happy since it was a new product..
Oct 8, 2018, 1:18 pm
#4119
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 51
Can you get approved for the Arrival Plus if you are currently holding the no fee version?
Oct 13, 2018, 8:40 pm
#4120
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 60
I applied about a month and a half ago. I have met the 5,000 spend but it was in the middle of the second statement cycle. I have about two more weeks until the statement date. Normally on the Arrival+ with waived first year fee, the bonus points within a day or so of the spend being met. It has not this time. Though, I think that it may be due to the annual fee. I know that in the past on US Air and AA cards, you had to pay the annual fee before the first statement cut, to have the miles post on the first statement. I had not paid the balance due before the statement cut on the first statement. So, I had not paid the fee or met the spend requirement before my first statement.
I am optimistic that the points will post in the next couple of weeks after statement #2 cycles. If not, then churning of this card could be dead.
I am optimistic that the points will post in the next couple of weeks after statement #2 cycles. If not, then churning of this card could be dead.
points posted.
Oct 13, 2018, 11:34 pm
#4121
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 433
I was approved for the Arrival Plus the very end of August 60K after 5K spend $89 A.F.. First statement closed with $ 89 A.F.about a week ago.
Called today and asked if I could be matched to the new identical offer but with A.F. waived for the first year.
After a brief hold to my amazement was told yes but that it would take 60 days for the refund to post. I was given a reference number and when I see it I'll believe it.
Just thought I'd post this as it may be worth your while to try.
P.S. Tried this first by secure message and they wrote back for me to call in for better service.
Called today and asked if I could be matched to the new identical offer but with A.F. waived for the first year.
After a brief hold to my amazement was told yes but that it would take 60 days for the refund to post. I was given a reference number and when I see it I'll believe it.
Just thought I'd post this as it may be worth your while to try.
P.S. Tried this first by secure message and they wrote back for me to call in for better service.
Don't know yet if this was an exception for this card only due to its dismal performance but a D.P. none the less worth noting.
Nov 20, 2018, 11:08 am
#4122
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Intermountain West
Programs: Too many to list
Posts: 12,080
Updated offer w/ HT to OMAAT:
Arrival Plus is now 70K pts with $5K spend. AF waived first year.
Arrival Plus is now 70K pts with $5K spend. AF waived first year.
Nov 21, 2018, 10:13 am
#4123
Join Date: May 2009
Location: South Park, CO
Programs: Tegridy Elite
Posts: 5,678
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/can-g...o-fee-arrival/
Nov 21, 2018, 11:24 am
#4124
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: MIA
Programs: AA, WN, HH, IHG
Posts: 32
DP: I applied yesterday while at 7/24 and with a current no fee Arrival. I called the recon line today and the reason for the denial was because of my Arrival account. He then asked me about my income, profession, and why I had opened 3 cards in the past several months. After answering his questions, he was able to approve me by shifting CL from my other Barclays accounts!
Nov 24, 2018, 4:45 am
#4125
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Chicago
Posts: 160
FWIW applied last week and was auto-denied. In fact, they didn't even bother pulling my credit report.
When I received the denial letter the other day, the reason they gave was "You've reached the limit on the number of times you can have this card" or something to that effect.
I've had two Arrival cards over the past few years. Most recent was opened around 18 months ago and closed around 6 months ago.
760 score and 4/24.
When I received the denial letter the other day, the reason they gave was "You've reached the limit on the number of times you can have this card" or something to that effect.
I've had two Arrival cards over the past few years. Most recent was opened around 18 months ago and closed around 6 months ago.
760 score and 4/24.