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Personal card:
60,000 mile offer $99 AF (not waived), no FTF, $2000 min. spend: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/bank...te-mastercard/
60,000-milecard applications (with a pre-filled-in "in-flight-validation code") are also available on Hawaiian Airlines flights.
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Business card [updated 3/9/24]
70K Total:
60K miles after $2000 spend + 10K miles after an employee purchase on his/her card; $99 annual fee (not waived), no foreign transaction fees:
https://cards.barclaycardus.com/bank...ss-mastercard/
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Redeeming awards on Hawaiian chart
http://hawaiianair.custhelp.com/app/...-award-flights
Redeeming awards on partner airlines chart
(ANA, Korean, jetBlue, Virgin America, Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Australia)
http://hawaiianair.custhelp.com/app/...rtner-airlines
Recon phone # 866-205-5973
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60,000 mile offer $99 AF (not waived), no FTF, $2000 min. spend: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/bank...te-mastercard/
60,000-milecard applications (with a pre-filled-in "in-flight-validation code") are also available on Hawaiian Airlines flights.
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Business card [updated 3/9/24]
70K Total:
60K miles after $2000 spend + 10K miles after an employee purchase on his/her card; $99 annual fee (not waived), no foreign transaction fees:
https://cards.barclaycardus.com/bank...ss-mastercard/
__________________________________________________ _____________
Redeeming awards on Hawaiian chart
http://hawaiianair.custhelp.com/app/...-award-flights
Redeeming awards on partner airlines chart
(ANA, Korean, jetBlue, Virgin America, Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Australia)
http://hawaiianair.custhelp.com/app/...rtner-airlines
Recon phone # 866-205-5973
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Hawaiian Airlines (Barclays and B of H banks) Personal/Bus. Card- [Up to 75K]
#31
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 595
Does anyone know if the business card will post miles in a separate HA frequent flyer account from the personal one (like the old BofA cards)?
On a separate note, I still sometime see 35K rt (17.5K each way) JFK to HNL but it is usually 11 months out, mid-week and you have to grab it ASAP when you see it.
On a separate note, I still sometime see 35K rt (17.5K each way) JFK to HNL but it is usually 11 months out, mid-week and you have to grab it ASAP when you see it.
#35
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: PHX
Programs: Whatever you have, I have too.
Posts: 377
Tried to apply for this new Barclay cc online this morning. Got into a loop of signing in/announcement page of new card. Called Barclay & applied OTP. Got the referred for review/wait for mail reply. Called the recon line at, 866-408-4064, spoke w/credit analyst, shifted some credit around from other Barclay accounts, and got approved. Still not sure why the internet site didn't advance me to an app page, but if anyone else has the same trouble, don't hesitate to pursue this w/a phone application. I am happy to add a CA to my wallet which always seems heavy w/Visas and Amex.
#36
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
I wouldn't be so sure. You could have at least two Barclays US Airways MCs open at once, both accounts opened in a ~6 month period. Done it myself and standard practice over on the threads for that card. No, not crazy churning but about as good as one can expect these days.
#37
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: KWI
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 806
#38
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
I received the card today and upon activation it is clear that it IS in fact chip and PIN. When you call to confirm they ask you if you would like to enter a PIN for use in foreign transactions where a PIN is needed. Once you go in and enter it, they make it very clear that this PIN is for use internationally, that for the first transaction you need to go to a point of sale location with a cashier, and then after that you can use the PIN at automated terminals.
Coupled with the 0% forex fee, and given the dearth of chip + PIN cards available to US cardholders (exception being some weird credit union ones) I think that this could be very powerful to many travelers.
Coupled with the 0% forex fee, and given the dearth of chip + PIN cards available to US cardholders (exception being some weird credit union ones) I think that this could be very powerful to many travelers.
#39
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 432
I received the card today and upon activation it is clear that it IS in fact chip and PIN. When you call to confirm they ask you if you would like to enter a PIN for use in foreign transactions where a PIN is needed. Once you go in and enter it, they make it very clear that this PIN is for use internationally, that for the first transaction you need to go to a point of sale location with a cashier, and then after that you can use the PIN at automated terminals.
Coupled with the 0% forex fee, and given the dearth of chip + PIN cards available to US cardholders (exception being some weird credit union ones) I think that this could be very powerful to many travelers.
Coupled with the 0% forex fee, and given the dearth of chip + PIN cards available to US cardholders (exception being some weird credit union ones) I think that this could be very powerful to many travelers.
#40
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
Not sure if that was sarcasm/joke/phishing or what but the three images you can choose from on the front of the card are available on the promo page, except minus the "Bank of Hawaii" references which are still retained on those images and are obviously no longer applicable.
#42
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: KWI
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 806
I received the card today and upon activation it is clear that it IS in fact chip and PIN. When you call to confirm they ask you if you would like to enter a PIN for use in foreign transactions where a PIN is needed. Once you go in and enter it, they make it very clear that this PIN is for use internationally, that for the first transaction you need to go to a point of sale location with a cashier, and then after that you can use the PIN at automated terminals.
Coupled with the 0% forex fee, and given the dearth of chip + PIN cards available to US cardholders (exception being some weird credit union ones) I think that this could be very powerful to many travelers.
Coupled with the 0% forex fee, and given the dearth of chip + PIN cards available to US cardholders (exception being some weird credit union ones) I think that this could be very powerful to many travelers.
It is Chip and Sig as first priority, then Chip & PIN if the POS unit insists, basically as a backup. They're letting you configure the PIN "for use in foreign transactions where a PIN is needed." i.e. forced. The ultimate answer is if you have an EMV reader to check the CVM list yourself.
#43
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
It is Chip and Sig as first priority, then Chip & PIN if the POS unit insists, basically as a backup. They're letting you configure the PIN "for use in foreign transactions where a PIN is needed." i.e. forced. The ultimate answer is if you have an EMV reader to check the CVM list yourself.
My understanding was that save for a handful of oddball credit union cards, there were almost no offerings in the US with ANY capability for PIN whatsoever, whereas this one seems to have it.
Let me know if I'm missing anything since this isn't an area of my expertise; it just jumped out to me how clearly they were pushing the PIN capability!
#44
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: KWI
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 806
I feel like I'm having trouble grasping anything beyond a semantic distinction here. Not really doing much travelling to places where chip + PIN is necessary (I've always gotten on with chip + sig just fine), I'm not sure what the difference or downside really is if what you're saying is the case. My understanding was that a plain old "chip + sig" card had NO PIN capability whatsoever, and thus that at a kiosk or other locations requiring ("forcing") a PIN you would be out of luck. Here it seemed that in no uncertain terms they stated that this capability would be in place (the phone recording specifically mentioned unmanned kiosks, a place where chip + sig cards seem to always anecdotally be people's downfall). I am assuming such locations would then default to or force the use of the PIN and that this card would then work.
My understanding was that save for a handful of oddball credit union cards, there were almost no offerings in the US with ANY capability for PIN whatsoever, whereas this one seems to have it.
Let me know if I'm missing anything since this isn't an area of my expertise; it just jumped out to me how clearly they were pushing the PIN capability!
My understanding was that save for a handful of oddball credit union cards, there were almost no offerings in the US with ANY capability for PIN whatsoever, whereas this one seems to have it.
Let me know if I'm missing anything since this isn't an area of my expertise; it just jumped out to me how clearly they were pushing the PIN capability!
At this point USAA and Diner's Club are the only true Chip and PIN card in the US.
The other question on these (which I have no answer to) is what happens at a completely unattended kiosk that attempts to do offline PIN authentication? For that we'll probably need someone with an EMV reader to check the CVM priority list.
Last edited by LoneTree; Jan 10, 2014 at 5:54 pm
#45
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Brooklyn, NY, United States
Programs: AA, BA, UA, Spirit, Delta, PC Plat, SPG Gold, HHonors Diamond, Club Carlson Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,735
I suppose it's how we're defining Chip and PIN. I'm defining it as a card that defaults to Chip and PIN as first priority, i.e. at every EMV transaction. Obviously the setup on this is better than Chip and Sig only, especially when Barclay lets you set your PIN online. Try explaining to Chase that you need a PIN for your card and they'll explain how it's not possible to ever be prompted for one. Which is particularly annoying since their priority setup is the same as this card and is set to prompt for PINs at kiosks. The Barclay folks to seem to have a better grasp of the technology than Chase.
At this point USAA and Diner's Club are the only true Chip and PIN card in the US.
The other question on these (which I have no answer to) is what happens at a completely unattended kiosk that attempts to do offline PIN authentication? For that we'll probably need someone with an EMV reader to check the CVM priority list.
At this point USAA and Diner's Club are the only true Chip and PIN card in the US.
The other question on these (which I have no answer to) is what happens at a completely unattended kiosk that attempts to do offline PIN authentication? For that we'll probably need someone with an EMV reader to check the CVM priority list.