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Which card(s) to use for high spend or large purchases? [Consolidated]

Which card(s) to use for high spend or large purchases? [Consolidated]

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Ways to get high rewards or bonus on credit card spending:

1. sign-on bonus, miles, UR or MR points, free nights and cash rewards
2. on-going rewards, points or cashback
3. spending bonus for extra points/$ or status, like spending $10,000 to get extra 20k points etc.

Cards with large spending bonus: (alphabetical)

AmEx Delta Skymiles Gold: $25,000 MQD waived for elite status
AmEx HH Ascend: $40,000 to Diamond
Barclay Aviator Red: $25,000 for $3,000 EQD
BofA Merrill +: $50,000 for additional $200 travel credit
Chase Ritz Carlton: $10,000 to renew Gold status. Subject to change from 8/1/2018
Chase United MileagePlus Explorer: $25,000 for 10,000 United miles
A lot more to list...

Cards that earn better than 1 airline mile (or points convertible 1:1 to airline miles) per dollar: (alphabetical)

Amex Blue Business Plus - 2x MRs on up to $50k per year. No AF, FTF.
Amex Blue for Business - 1.3x MRs (Another card needed in order to transfer, such as Amex ED/EDP/PRG/BGR/Plat etc). No AF, FTF. Discontinued, replaced by BBP.
Amex Business Platinum - 1.5x for charges over $5,000 up to 1M extra points ($2M spend) AF $450, no FTF. Many other perks.
Amex EveryDay - 1.2x if you make 20+ charges per cycle. No AF, FTF.
Amex EveryDay Preferred - 1.5x if you make 30+ charges per cycle. AF $95, FTF.
Bank of America Virgin Atlantic MasterCard - 1.5x VS miles, 2x if you spend $15k per year, 2.1x if you spend $25k per year. AF $90, no FTF.
Barclaycard Arrival Premier - 1.43x for all partners except JAL, AC (1.18x). You will get 2.14x on all partners except JAL, AC (1.76x), if you spend $15k or $25k per year. AF $150, FYF, no FTF. Discontinued.
Capital One Spark Miles Business Visa - 1.5x on all partners, except SQ and EK. AF $95, FYF, no FTF.
Capital One Venture Visa - 1.5x on all partners, except SQ and EK. 7.5x (all partners, except SQ and EK) on hotels.com until 01/31/2020. AF $95, FYF, no FTF.
Capital One Spark Miles Select Business Visa - 1.125x on all partners, except SQ and EK. No AF, no FTF.
Chase Freedom Unlimited Visa - 1.5x URs (Another card needed in order to transfer, such as CSR/CSP/Ink Plus/Ink Bold/Ink Preferred). No AF, FTF.
Chase Ink Unlimited Business Visa - 1.5x URs, Same as Freedom Unlimited
Chase United Club Card Visa - 1.5x United miles. AF $450, no FTF, some other perks.
Citi Double Cash MC - 2x TYP. Cashback can be converted to TYP at 1:1 ratio. You need a premium Citi card, (Premier, Prestige or Chairman) to transfer to partners other than JetBlue at 1:1 ratio. No AF, FTF.


Cards that earn hotel points

Amex Hilton Honors - 3x HH points, no AF, no FTF
Amex Hilton Honors Ascend - 3x HH points, AF $95, no FTF, some perks
Amex Hilton Honors Business - 3x HH points, AF $95, no FTF, some perks
Amex Hilton Honors Aspire - 3x HH points, AF $450, no FTF, lots of perks.
Amex SPG - 2x Marriott points. AF $95, FYF, no FTF.
Amex SPG Business - same as Amex SPG.
Amex SPG Luxury - same as Amex SPG. AF $450
Barclaycard Choice Privileges Visa - 2x on everything. No AF, FTF.
Barclaycard Wyndham Rewards Visa - 2x (grandfathered versions 2x on everything, still obtainable). AF $69/$0, FTF.
Chase Marriott Premier Plus Visa - same as Amex SPG
FNBO Best Western Rewards Premium MC - 2x BW points. AF $59, no FTF
FNBO Best Western Rewards MC - 2x BW points. No AF, no FTF
US Bank Radisson Rewards Premier Visa Signature - 5x RR points. AF $75, FTF
US Bank Radisson Rewards Business Visa - 5x RR points. AF $60, FTF
US Bank Radisson Rewards Visa Signature - 3x RR points. AF $50, FTF

2%+ Cashback Cards: (by % amount)

US Bank Altitude Reserve Visa - 4.5% towards travel (cashout possible), if you use Android Pay, Samsung Pay, Apple Pay or Microsoft Wallet for in-person, in-app or online purchases. AF $400, no FTF, many other perks.
Barclaycard Priceline Rewards Visa (grandfathered 2x/5x version) - 3.33% if redeemed against Priceline or travel purchases, 2% if redeemed for everything else. No AF, no FTF.
Barclaycard Arrival Premier MC - 3% if you spend exactly $15k or $25k, 2%, if you spend less than $15k. AF $150, FYF, no FTF, some perks. Discontinued.
Bank of America Travel Rewards Visa (with Platinum (Honors) Preferred Rewards) - 2.25/2.625%. No AF, no FTF.
Bank of America Premium Rewards Visa (with Platinum (Honors) Preferred Rewards) - 2.25/2.625%. AF $95, no FTF, some perks.
USAA Limitless Cashback Rewards Visa - 2.5% (must be USAA member, with $1k direct deposit per month). no AF. Discontinued.
Alliant Cashback Visa Signature - 3% first year, after that 2.5%. AF $59, FYF, no FTF.
Barclaycard Arrival Plus MasterCard - 2.1% if you redeem for travel purchases. AF $89, no FTF.
Discover it Miles - 3% (first year only, 1.5% after that). No AF, no FTF.

Exactly 2% Cashback Cards: (alphabetical)

Amex Blue Business Cash - 2% on up to $50k per year. No AF, FTF.
BBVA Compass Rewards Visa - 2%, if you receive $1000 in direct deposits per month to checking account. No AF.
Blispay Visa - 2%. No AF.
Citi Double Cash MasterCard - 2%. No AF.
Capital One Spark Cash Business Visa - 2%. AF $95, FYF, no FTF.
Capital One Spark Miles Business Visa - 2% if redeemed for travel. AF $95, FYF, no FTF.
Capital One Venture Visa - 2% if you redeem for travel purchases. 10% cashback on hotels.com until 01/31/2020. AF $95, FYF, no FTF.
Fidelity Rewards Visa - 2%. No AF.
PenFed Power Cash Rewards Visa (with Honors Advantage) - 2%. No AF, no FTF.
PNC Premier Traveler Visa - 2% if you redeem for travel purchases. AF $85, FYF, no FTF.
State Department Federal CU Premium Cashback+ Visa - 2%, no AF, no FTF.
Synchrony Paypal Cashback MC - 2%, no AF, no FTF.
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Old Jun 22, 18, 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by mia View Post
Welcome to Flyertalk. You will receive better replies if you mention the name of the merchant. Note that the BA portal may not award any points if the purchase is larger than the stated maximum. See HERE.
BA has been a pain in the axx. Two of my purchases were denied for portal points. You also have to read all its T&Cs. I do not bother it any more. Just me.
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Old Jun 22, 18, 6:56 pm
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BA has been a pain in the axx. Two of my purchases were denied for portal points. You also have to read all its T&Cs. I do not bother it any more. Just me.
Thanks to both of you for the quick reply. The merchant is Blue Nile. I had read that about going above $7,500 and not getting the credit so I already confirmed with Blue Nile that they could charge me $7,500 exactly to avoid taking a chance on missing out on the 37.5k miles.

Also, I should note I have the CSR, Amex Platinum, and Marriott Premier as my current credit cards.
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Old Jun 22, 18, 10:07 pm
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Originally Posted by bkorto23 View Post
Thanks to both of you for the quick reply. The merchant is Blue Nile. I had read that about going above $7,500 and not getting the credit so I already confirmed with Blue Nile that they could charge me $7,500 exactly to avoid taking a chance on missing out on the 37.5k miles.

Also, I should note I have the CSR, Amex Platinum, and Marriott Premier as my current credit cards.
There are three things to consider with credit rewards.

1. sign-on bonus, 50k points or $250
2. on-going rewards, 2 x points
3. spending bonus for extra points/$ or status, like spending $10,000 to get extra 20k points

It all depends on what you plan to do. Always do some research and compare. Some folks even use Excel spreadsheet to calculate it.
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Old Jun 24, 18, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by RedSun View Post
There are three things to consider with credit rewards.

1. sign-on bonus, 50k points or $250
2. on-going rewards, 2 x points
3. spending bonus for extra points/$ or status, like spending $10,000 to get extra 20k points

It all depends on what you plan to do. Always do some research and compare. Some folks even use Excel spreadsheet to calculate it.
For those who have a limited cc portfolio, option 1 for signup bonus will almost always win in terms of most value. For $7500, you could call bluenile and ask if they can split it over two cards, which should be enough for two bonuses.

For those with more extensive cc portfolio and have already exhausted most signup bonuses, then options 2 and 3 need to be considered as well.
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Old Jun 24, 18, 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Explorer789 View Post
For those who have a limited cc portfolio, option 1 for signup bonus will almost always win in terms of most value. For $7500, you could call bluenile and ask if they can split it over two cards, which should be enough for two bonuses.

For those with more extensive cc portfolio and have already exhausted most signup bonuses, then options 2 and 3 need to be considered as well.
The churner is about the way of the past. Chase 5/24 and AmEx "lifetime" effectively shut the doors. Cap 1, WF and Barclay get relatively tight underwriting standard, or highly unpredictable. Some people can still get 3-4 new cards a year and continue to work on a SUB every 3 months.

But high spending is on-going. Some folks can MS like $20k each month. It is like their part-time job, more than a hobby.
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Old Jun 24, 18, 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by RedSun View Post
The churner is about the way of the past. Chase 5/24 and AmEx "lifetime" effectively shut the doors. Cap 1, WF and Barclay get relatively tight underwriting standard, or highly unpredictable. Some people can still get 3-4 new cards a year and continue to work on a SUB every 3 months.

But high spending is on-going. Some folks can MS like $20k each month. It is like their part-time job, more than a hobby.
Needless to say, the sky is not falling for sign up bonuses. Most people can do better than 3-4 a year quite easily. It really isn't that hard as you are making it seem and anyone just needs to take the time to learn the rules and figure out the timing/ordering of what cards to apply for. That's where forums and threads like this helps the newbies.

The few guys on here that are MSing 20k per month are usually those who have exhausted almost every bonus available to them, so the high spend is the only way to keep piling on those points since you no longer are aiming to hit min spends. Same reason I am also starting to ramp up my MS.

When combined with big upcoming purchases and MS, there is significant ROI to be had from going after bonuses for those still just starting out.
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Old Jul 3, 18, 9:34 am
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MS Cards & Idea Recommendations

What cards and or ideas do you recommend for somebody like me that spends $7k - $13k a month (business purchases).
I have citi double but I'm looking for recommendations on something that can give me more value maybe in travel and hotels.
I'm not updated with the MS world because I stop for a while and I was always a very light MS player.
So I'm trying to check out the opinion of you guys and also get to know several of you. Thank you!
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Old Jul 3, 18, 10:11 am
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This isnít MS. This is actual spend. Look into all the different UR/MR/airline miles/hotel points earning card forums.
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Old Jul 3, 18, 10:21 pm
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Since this is not related to manufactured spending, I have moved the thread to Credit Card Programs. The moderators there might consolidate it with another thread on the subject.

At that level of spending, you can easily get the signup bonus for any card you want, so it's simply a matter of choosing what airline or hotel you would like points with, and applying for their card, preferably when they have a good signup bonus.
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Originally Posted by IslandOfEnchantment View Post
What cards and or ideas do you recommend for somebody like me that spends $7k - $13k a month (business purchases).
I have citi double but I'm looking for recommendations on something that can give me more value maybe in travel and hotels.
I'm not updated with the MS world because I stop for a while and I was always a very light MS player.
So I'm trying to check out the opinion of you guys and also get to know several of you. Thank you!
Chase Ink Business Preferred, for starters: https://creditcards.chase.com/small-...KX&SP4R=Y71UH0 Chase UR pts super valuable because they can be transferred to multiple airlines & hotels. Or you can use them to buy airfare & hotel stays on their website. Big bonus.
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Old Jul 9, 18, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by philemer View Post
Chase Ink Business Preferred, for starters: https://creditcards.chase.com/small-business-credit-cards?jp_ltg=chsecate_smlbiz&CELL=6TKX&SP4R=Y71UH0 Chase UR pts super valuable because they can be transferred to multiple airlines & hotels. Or you can use them to buy airfare & hotel stays on their website. Big bonus.
Then switch to Ink Unlimited for 1.5x on everything.
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Old Jul 14, 18, 3:43 pm
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New card advice for a big purchase

Hi all,
At the moment I have the Sapphire Preferred, United Mileage Plus and a very old AAdvantage Gold World MasterCard. I've got a $6,000 expense coming up later this year and I'd like to ask your opinion of what the best card options might be for me. I was thinking of the Chase Ink card with the 80,000 mile signup bonus ($5k/3mo spend) since I'm already collecting UR miles with the Sapphire Preferred. The other option would be something from Citi for AA miles, since I currently have 175k in their plan. I'm down to only 44k United miles after my last two trips, and 78k Chase UR points that I can transfer to United if/when needed.

I live in northeastern New Jersey, and flying out of either Newark or Kennedy isn't a problem (I don't travel domestically so never need to use LGA) and my preferred destinations are the major cities in western Europe.

Since I currently have an open AA World M/C, am I prevented from getting an opening bonus on any other AA-branded card or is that only Citi products? Might I be better off looking at two 50,000 mile bonuses on $3k/3mo minimum spend promos instead?
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Old Jul 15, 18, 3:57 pm
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Hi all,
At the moment I have the Sapphire Preferred, United Mileage Plus and a very old AAdvantage Gold World MasterCard. I've got a $6,000 expense coming up later this year and I'd like to ask your opinion of what the best card options might be for me. I was thinking of the Chase Ink card with the 80,000 mile signup bonus ($5k/3mo spend) since I'm already collecting UR miles with the Sapphire Preferred. The other option would be something from Citi for AA miles, since I currently have 175k in their plan. I'm down to only 44k United miles after my last two trips, and 78k Chase UR points that I can transfer to United if/when needed.

I live in northeastern New Jersey, and flying out of either Newark or Kennedy isn't a problem (I don't travel domestically so never need to use LGA) and my preferred destinations are the major cities in western Europe.

Since I currently have an open AA World M/C, am I prevented from getting an opening bonus on any other AA-branded card or is that only Citi products? Might I be better off looking at two 50,000 mile bonuses on $3k/3mo minimum spend promos instead?
Chase Ink Preferred is the best choice- great bonus, perfect for what you need to spend, won't add to your 5/24 count (business card that doesn't report to personal credit report). Extra UR are more valuable because that will push you up to about 165K. Good amount to get some nice business class redemptions to Europe.

Easy pickings to add to your AA mileage would be the Barclays business AA card. Only need to make one purchase to get 50K, and won't add to your 5/24 count.
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Old Jul 15, 18, 4:14 pm
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Thanks for the advice and the confirmation on the Ink Preferred. I run a small sole-proprietorship business that has a fair number of printing, advertising, shipping and mobile phone bills, so the extra miles earned in those categories could be significant. UR miles earned will almost certainly be redeemed on United since I don't fly to Asia and love Europe. I've got a trip to CPH next year that would be SO nice in Business going eastbound (we're coming back via HEL on Finnair day flight using AA miles).

I was toying with the idea of a Barclay's Aviator. I'm not in any 5/24 danger at the moment; the last card I opened was the Sapphire Preferred about a year ago. I'm trying to keep my $95 annual fees as low as needed, though. What are Citi and Barclay's policies about churn? Could I dump my almost-never-used AAdvantage World M/C and still qualify for a new (different) product that gives me AA miles plus a welcome bonus?
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Old Jul 15, 18, 4:52 pm
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Originally Posted by NJRadioGuy View Post
....What are Citi and Barclay's policies about churn? ....
Read the Wikipost at the top of this thread to understand Citi's policy, which is based on how recently you opened or closed a Citi AAdvantage card -not- on whether you have such a card open now. DO NOT CLOSE the card that you have now until you understand the ramifications.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi...-business.html
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