Oct 18, 2013, 8:43 am
Last edit by: pgary
50,000-mile offer
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
- $89 annual fee, not waived
- no foreign transaction fees
- annual companion ticket
- 2 Lufthansa Business Lounge vouchers annually
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Barclays (USA) Lufthansa MasterCard - Revived - 50K after $5K spend
Aug 9, 2018, 6:32 am
#616
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 299
Aug 9 2018: Auto-declined 2 weeks after closing previous card
Will try again in a few months
Sep 16, 2018, 1:31 pm
#617
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SFO
Posts: 514
new restrictive language?
I received and closed 2 or three Barclays Lufthansa cards in the last 5 years or so. I'd like to open a new one again for the 50K or 60K bonus but I'm seeing some restrictive language I don't remember from before:
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program. In addition, you may not be eligible for this offer if, at any time during our relationship with you, we have cause, as determined by us in our sole discretion, to suspect that the account is being obtained or will be used for abusive or gaming activity (such as, but not limited to, obtaining or using the account to maximize rewards earned in a manner that is not consistent with typical consumer activity and/or multiple credit card account applications/openings).
Is this language new? Is it being enforced? Sounds like not only can you be denied (or not get the sign up bonus) for having had the card before, but they are looking at churners.
thanks
This one-time offer is valid for eligible cardmembers. You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in this program. In addition, you may not be eligible for this offer if, at any time during our relationship with you, we have cause, as determined by us in our sole discretion, to suspect that the account is being obtained or will be used for abusive or gaming activity (such as, but not limited to, obtaining or using the account to maximize rewards earned in a manner that is not consistent with typical consumer activity and/or multiple credit card account applications/openings).
Is this language new? Is it being enforced? Sounds like not only can you be denied (or not get the sign up bonus) for having had the card before, but they are looking at churners.
thanks
Sep 17, 2018, 9:38 am
#618
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,447
Not completely new -- I certainly recall seeing it in May/June -- but (I believe) a little 'firmer' than it used to be. It fits with what we've been reading in this thread and elsewhere these past couple of years: the banks are trying harder to spot and exclude churners, so it probably pays to be a little less aggressive. Better to get two or three approvals a year, with good or great bonus offers, than overdo it and ultimately have fewer successes.
Sep 19, 2018, 2:57 pm
#619
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
Not completely new -- I certainly recall seeing it in May/June -- but (I believe) a little 'firmer' than it used to be. It fits with what we've been reading in this thread and elsewhere these past couple of years: the banks are trying harder to spot and exclude churners, so it probably pays to be a little less aggressive. Better to get two or three approvals a year, with good or great bonus offers, than overdo it and ultimately have fewer successes.
Nov 21, 2018, 2:18 pm
#620
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: MCI
Programs: Mega Bus Plaid; Southwest Airlines Ruby and Bates Motel Platinum
Posts: 246
I have the $79 Annual fee Lufthansa card. I was recently charged by annual fee and like the card for preserving my LH miles, but otherwise, don't use it much. I recently contacted Barclay's and it sounds like there is possibly an option to downgrade to the no annual fee. If I do drop down to that card and continue to use it monthly, can I preserve my Miles (and More) from expiring? Thanks
Dec 5, 2018, 3:35 pm
#622
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 889
I applied through it and was denied because I had this card and closed it less than 24 months ago. This seems to be a new restriction, I used to churn this card every 6 months like clockwork. Thus I believe the link works.
Feb 28, 2019, 10:15 am
#623
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 889
Churn is dead (at least for now)
After several repeated attempts at continuing to churn the LH M&M card I conclude this one is effectively dead. Closed the account last May, applied several times, month apart, with 50 / 60K links. Got denied every time, the letter states "our records show you've already established the maximum allowable number of this product". Called in every time, saying that the old LH M&M account is closed, they say that's right, but it needs to have been closed for 24 months, then you can apply again. Effectively, they are now enforcing the same rules as for the Aviator card for the LH M&M card. Which sucks, because there are no other LH M&M earning cards with a bonus.
Another one bites the dust ...
Another one bites the dust ...
Feb 28, 2019, 11:03 am
#624
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sunny AZ
Programs: HH Diamond, Sixt Platinum, IHG Spire Ambassador, Marriott/SPG Gold .....
Posts: 3,206
After several repeated attempts at continuing to churn the LH M&M card I conclude this one is effectively dead. Closed the account last May, applied several times, month apart, with 50 / 60K links. Got denied every time, the letter states "our records show you've already established the maximum allowable number of this product". Called in every time, saying that the old LH M&M account is closed, they say that's right, but it needs to have been closed for 24 months, then you can apply again. Effectively, they are now enforcing the same rules as for the Aviator card for the LH M&M card. Which sucks, because there are no other LH M&M earning cards with a bonus.
Another one bites the dust ...
Another one bites the dust ...
Feb 28, 2019, 11:52 am
#625
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 889
No, it lasts about 6 months after closure, then disappears. At first I thought I had to wait for it to disappear, but that didn't make a difference. It still is in Barclay's records, obviously.
Of course, I assume YMMV, and I'm highly interested in successes ...
Of course, I assume YMMV, and I'm highly interested in successes ...
Mar 3, 2019, 10:21 pm
#626
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,257
After several repeated attempts at continuing to churn the LH M&M card I conclude this one is effectively dead. Closed the account last May, applied several times, month apart, with 50 / 60K links. Got denied every time, the letter states "our records show you've already established the maximum allowable number of this product". Called in every time, saying that the old LH M&M account is closed, they say that's right, but it needs to have been closed for 24 months, then you can apply again. Effectively, they are now enforcing the same rules as for the Aviator card for the LH M&M card. Which sucks, because there are no other LH M&M earning cards with a bonus.
Another one bites the dust ...
Another one bites the dust ...
i received the same letter with that same language on Aviator previously.
Mar 3, 2019, 10:24 pm
#627
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 889
Mar 4, 2019, 11:58 am
#629
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 889
Mar 20, 2019, 9:46 am
#630
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sunny AZ
Programs: HH Diamond, Sixt Platinum, IHG Spire Ambassador, Marriott/SPG Gold .....
Posts: 3,206
Today I got an alert from Award Wallet that in February no miles were reported from Barclays and that my miles are now at risk to expire. Getting a slight heart attack I checked the iPhone App and while February showed up it showed as Zero miles. Next the desktop and there Feb showed the app 250 miles earned. Checking the numbers it looks as if Desktop Feb (lines up with Barclay Bill) shows in the mobile app as January , Jan as Dec etc.
Did anyone run into a similar situation? Looks as if AwardWallet and the Mobile App use the same info
Did anyone run into a similar situation? Looks as if AwardWallet and the Mobile App use the same info
