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50,000-mile offer
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
- $89 annual fee, not waived
- no foreign transaction fees
- annual companion ticket
- 2 Lufthansa Business Lounge vouchers annually
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Barclays (USA) Lufthansa MasterCard - Revived - 50K after $5K spend
#286
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,516
Both wife and myself applied for this card month ago (when first link was alive). Statement closed yesterday and 50K posted. This is our 3rd card (previous were cancelled before applying) during last 2 years. Unfortunately, I didn't read T&C, so I cannot say if "first-time cardmember" condition was there or not.
#287
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 3,677
The phrase I quoted above isn't there anymore, instead now it says:
"(2) Award miles as Welcome Bonus: Applicants approved for the Premier World MasterCard with $79 Annual Fee will receive twenty thousand (20,000) award miles after the first use of their new account for a Purchase (that is not later returned or rescinded) and payment of the Annual Fee. Award miles will be sent to Miles & More at the close of your billing statement after qualifying transaction(s) have been posted. Award miles may be forfeited if the Annual Fee is later waived or rescinded.
Additional award miles: Applicants approved for the Premier World MasterCard with $79 Annual Fee will receive an additional thirty thousand (30,000) award miles after using their new account for five thousand dollars ($5,000) or more in net retail Purchases (that are not later returned or rescinded) within ninety (90) days of account opening and payment of the Annual Fee. Award miles may be forfeited if the Annual Fee is later waived or rescinded.
This one-time thirty-thousand (30,000) additional award miles offer is valid for first-time cardmembers with a new account only. Existing cardmembers and existing accounts are not eligible for this offer."
So at least 20K miles for anyone who is approved. And in the past Citi has had language like the last paragraph, which turned out to only mean that each new card was a new account. So possibly this just means you can't have an account open when applying for a second one, and can't ask for an upgrade to a 50K bonus on a card you have open that only had a 20K bonus with the app you used ?
#288
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: Spg Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 1,578
Both wife and myself applied for this card month ago (when first link was alive). Statement closed yesterday and 50K posted. This is our 3rd card (previous were cancelled before applying) during last 2 years. Unfortunately, I didn't read T&C, so I cannot say if "first-time cardmember" condition was there or not.
#290
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DEN
Posts: 502
Applied and was rejected without a credit pull due to having this card previously. Called recon and they immediately saw I had this card closed in April. I did PC the card to a Barclays Rewards card before closing.
It seems Barclays is now tracking the card history for prior cardmembers.
It seems Barclays is now tracking the card history for prior cardmembers.
#291
Used to be highman123
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,541
Applied and was rejected without a credit pull due to having this card previously. Called recon and they immediately saw I had this card closed in April. I did PC the card to a Barclays Rewards card before closing.
It seems Barclays is now tracking the card history for prior cardmembers.
It seems Barclays is now tracking the card history for prior cardmembers.
#293
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: AA, UA, DL, AS, LH, BA, VS, HHonors, Hyatt, Club Carlson, IHG, Marriott
Posts: 833
Applied and was rejected without a credit pull due to having this card previously. Called recon and they immediately saw I had this card closed in April. I did PC the card to a Barclays Rewards card before closing.
It seems Barclays is now tracking the card history for prior cardmembers.
It seems Barclays is now tracking the card history for prior cardmembers.
#294
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 396
Applied and was rejected without a credit pull due to having this card previously. Called recon and they immediately saw I had this card closed in April. I did PC the card to a Barclays Rewards card before closing.
It seems Barclays is now tracking the card history for prior cardmembers.
It seems Barclays is now tracking the card history for prior cardmembers.
#295
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: Delta Silver, Marriott Gold, HH Diamond, Ex-UA Gold, Ex-AA Gold , Ex-SPG Gold, Peon everywhere else
Posts: 616
That language has always been around. I have churned this card once a year for the last three years. I would close the old account 1 month before opening the new one. Never had an issue. Getting ready to churn again here in the next month or so. Hopefully this offer is still around.
#296
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: Delta Silver, Marriott Gold, HH Diamond, Ex-UA Gold, Ex-AA Gold , Ex-SPG Gold, Peon everywhere else
Posts: 616
WAIT, did they just change their T/Cs ?
So at least 20K miles for anyone who is approved. And in the past Citi has had language like the last paragraph, which turned out to only mean that each new card was a new account. So possibly this just means you can't have an account open when applying for a second one, and can't ask for an upgrade to a 50K bonus on a card you have open that only had a 20K bonus with the app you used ?
So at least 20K miles for anyone who is approved. And in the past Citi has had language like the last paragraph, which turned out to only mean that each new card was a new account. So possibly this just means you can't have an account open when applying for a second one, and can't ask for an upgrade to a 50K bonus on a card you have open that only had a 20K bonus with the app you used ?
"Premier World Miles & More MasterCard cardmembers will receive 35,000 bonus miles upon the first use of your new Account for a purchase within the first 90 days and after the annual fee(if applicable) has been paid."
So even if they disallow the bonus 30K after the $5K spend because of the first-time verbage, you may have a case for these 35K.
#297
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 3,677
That language has always been around. I have churned this card once a year for the last three years. I would close the old account 1 month before opening the new one. Never had an issue. Getting ready to churn again here in the next month or so. Hopefully this offer is still around.
Actually if you click on the "Pricing and Terms" icon on the landing page, the pop-up window will say the following under Welcome Bonus:
"Premier World Miles & More MasterCard cardmembers will receive 35,000 bonus miles upon the first use of your new Account for a purchase within the first 90 days and after the annual fee(if applicable) has been paid."
So even if they disallow the bonus 30K after the $5K spend because of the first-time verbage, you may have a case for these 35K.
"Premier World Miles & More MasterCard cardmembers will receive 35,000 bonus miles upon the first use of your new Account for a purchase within the first 90 days and after the annual fee(if applicable) has been paid."
So even if they disallow the bonus 30K after the $5K spend because of the first-time verbage, you may have a case for these 35K.
Having enough miles for one award isn't going to do me much good, as we aren't about to buy a LH FC ticket, and there's no way I'm getting away with sending her home on AA while I go LH.
#299
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: LAX
Posts: 650
I noticed the same thing. I went back and re-read the T&C's, and it states that you get the 20K after 1st spend AND paying the annual fee. So, I look at my first statement, and the fee was not on it. It is showing now in my current activity. So best guess, the 20K will process this coming statement. I will wait for the next statement before I get concerned and call.
#300
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM-SIN-EWR
Programs: UA*G (1K again), Sixt Plat, *was*: SQ QPP01 & SK EBS/EBG, LH SEN, AA EXP, 9wPlat
Posts: 8,606
I noticed the same thing. I went back and re-read the T&C's, and it states that you get the 20K after 1st spend AND paying the annual fee. So, I look at my first statement, and the fee was not on it. It is showing now in my current activity. So best guess, the 20K will process this coming statement. I will wait for the next statement before I get concerned and call.