Oct 18, 2013, 8:43 am
Last edit by: pgary
50,000-mile offer
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
- $89 annual fee, not waived
- no foreign transaction fees
- annual companion ticket
- 2 Lufthansa Business Lounge vouchers annually
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Barclays (USA) Lufthansa MasterCard - Revived - 50K after $5K spend
May 7, 2013, 6:53 am
#76
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Barclay's does not take back, the miles expire in the M&M account. I see the card as an extended warranty. It is useless during the 1st 3 years but then it becomes valuable. However, you need to be paying the $79 fee yearly from day 1 for there to be value after year 3. That is where the expense comes in.
May 7, 2013, 7:13 am
#77
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Barclay's does not take back, the miles expire in the M&M account. I see the card as an extended warranty. It is useless during the 1st 3 years but then it becomes valuable. However, you need to be paying the $79 fee yearly from day 1 for there to be value after year 3. That is where the expense comes in.
May 7, 2013, 7:19 am
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May 7, 2013, 7:33 am
#80
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Gotcha.........that makes sense. Basically the monthly purchase requirement doesn't come into play until the 36 month shelf life has expired. I assume each mile earned on the card has its own expiration date at 3 yrs, and the card use only extends those miles by an additional 30 days. Is this correct?...........Thanks
Another twist is the possibility of canceling the card after a year then getting it again before the 3 year period from when the original card's miles posted. I have no clue if this is a good strategy and there is also the possibility of getting denied the card then.
I am just throwing out scenarios so the experts can weigh in. The program is new to me so take them with that disclaimer.
May 7, 2013, 7:48 am
#81
Join Date: Apr 2011
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I think by having the card you get the opportunity to have unlimited 30 day extensions. I am by no means an expert. I think we need the M&M experts to weigh in on this.
Another twist is the possibility of canceling the card after a year then getting it again before the 3 year period from when the original card's miles posted. I have no clue if this is a good strategy and there is also the possibility of getting denied the card then.
I am just throwing out scenarios so the experts can weigh in. The program is new to me so take them with that disclaimer.
Another twist is the possibility of canceling the card after a year then getting it again before the 3 year period from when the original card's miles posted. I have no clue if this is a good strategy and there is also the possibility of getting denied the card then.
I am just throwing out scenarios so the experts can weigh in. The program is new to me so take them with that disclaimer.
May 7, 2013, 8:15 am
#82
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The comments earlier in this thread (someone complaining about changes in the BA program after they worked to get 100K Avios) illustrate, as always, that earning points for some time years down the road is a gamble at best. Programs can be completely shut down with 6 months notice, devalued with little or no notice, award availability can disappear, etc.
Spending money for points you plan to not use for more than 36 months is nuts! Get the card, get the miles, book a trip, rinse and repeat as needed.
Spending money for points you plan to not use for more than 36 months is nuts! Get the card, get the miles, book a trip, rinse and repeat as needed.
Agree 100%
May 7, 2013, 2:01 pm
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May 7, 2013, 5:42 pm
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