Oct 18, 2013, 8:43 am
Last edit by: pgary
50,000-mile offer
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
- $89 annual fee, not waived
- no foreign transaction fees
- annual companion ticket
- 2 Lufthansa Business Lounge vouchers annually
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Barclays (USA) Lufthansa MasterCard - Revived - 50K after $5K spend
May 4, 2013, 12:23 am
#46
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Brooklyn, NY, United States
Programs: AA, BA, UA, Spirit, Delta, PC Plat, SPG Gold, HHonors Diamond, Club Carlson Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,735
I had this card a few years ago. When I finally had the miles to redeem for two economy tickets between Spain and Germany, I paid over $400 in fees/taxes for my 'free' tickets. Miles & More is about the worst FF program that I know of. I love the airline, but I am done with their program.
It's terrible if you use it for its intended purpose (YQ surcharges) but it's awesome to use on partners (short hauls). It seems to me that this one falls into the same category. Get 2 cards (you and a spouse/partner) and you can get 3 first class transcontinental RTs in F after meeting the spend. Don't think it's too shabby.
May 4, 2013, 12:56 am
#47
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: Delta Silver, Marriott Gold, HH Diamond, Ex-UA Gold, Ex-AA Gold , Ex-SPG Gold, Peon everywhere else
Posts: 616
Another thing you can do with these miles is redeem for business class awards on SQ flights from the US to Asia. SQ blocks A380, 777-300, and A340 J availability from all *A carriers except LH/M&M. Fuel charges are not as high with SQ.
May 4, 2013, 4:23 am
#48
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Herndon, VA
Posts: 67
A big plus for me is that Lufthansa discounts award fares for children 2-11 by 25%. That means it's only 37,500 for an economy RT ticket for my son to Europe. Also, it's only 50,000 for an economy RT adult ticket to Europe if your residence is in the US.
May 4, 2013, 5:34 am
#49
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: BTV
Programs: AA EXP, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 486
2 points.
1. Last year I used LH miles for an open jaw award, JFK -> FLO; IST -> JFK (via Frankfurt on A380) in biz, all on LH metal, for 105k miles and taxes/fees were $300-something.
2. Isn't United phasing out domestic first in place of a 2 cabin with "business first" on its premium transcontinental service?
1. Last year I used LH miles for an open jaw award, JFK -> FLO; IST -> JFK (via Frankfurt on A380) in biz, all on LH metal, for 105k miles and taxes/fees were $300-something.
2. Isn't United phasing out domestic first in place of a 2 cabin with "business first" on its premium transcontinental service?
Last edited by AirD0c; May 4, 2013 at 12:48 pm
May 4, 2013, 7:21 am
#50
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: NYC: UA 1K, DL Platinum, AAirpass, Avis PC
Posts: 4,599
2 points.
1. Last year I used LH miles to for an open jaw award, JFK -> FLO; IST -> JFK (via Frankfurt on A380) in biz, all on LH metal, for 105k miles and taxes/fees were $300-something.
2. Isn't United phasing out domestic first in place of a 2 cabin with "business first" on its premium transcontinental service?
1. Last year I used LH miles to for an open jaw award, JFK -> FLO; IST -> JFK (via Frankfurt on A380) in biz, all on LH metal, for 105k miles and taxes/fees were $300-something.
2. Isn't United phasing out domestic first in place of a 2 cabin with "business first" on its premium transcontinental service?
May 4, 2013, 12:28 pm
#51
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: MRY
Posts: 430
I'll have to think about this one for the next AOR. Great that it is a Barclay's product - I've got a lot of headroom on TU for inquiries. Any reports of an additional bonus of 15K miles if you spend $750 after you open the card - like we've seen with the USAir Barclay's card?
May 4, 2013, 1:06 pm
#52
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: Delta Silver, Marriott Gold, HH Diamond, Ex-UA Gold, Ex-AA Gold , Ex-SPG Gold, Peon everywhere else
Posts: 616
If you go to the M&M website and search in the Mileage bargains section you will see that they are running a promotion where a business class RT award is only 55K mile from select US cities to various cities in Europe. I suspect that it may routes with their older business class product but is a not bad deal if you need to travel to Europe from now until mid-June. They tend to run these kinds of promotions occassionally.
May 4, 2013, 2:35 pm
#53
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 488
May 5, 2013, 2:02 am
#54
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,452
Yes, 35k on United's ps in J (especially if you get one of the new planes with the true lie flats) is a fantastic deal. You get lounge access too.
May 5, 2013, 7:29 am
#55
Join Date: May 2010
Location: WAS
Programs: Lotz
Posts: 1,534
According to the terms these miles won't expire..."provided that you make a purchase for which miles are awarded at least once a month AND have held a Miles & More MasterCard for at least three months." (bolding mine)
Sounds pretty harsh as far as usual expiration rules but I'm assuming they mean if you don't satisfy those two conditions your miles will eventually expire at some time in the future, like 18 months or whatever just as most other programs? But I've never heard of that "once a month" activity requirement.
Sounds pretty harsh as far as usual expiration rules but I'm assuming they mean if you don't satisfy those two conditions your miles will eventually expire at some time in the future, like 18 months or whatever just as most other programs? But I've never heard of that "once a month" activity requirement.
Holding the card is the only way to keep them from expiring so long as you make one purchase on the card every month. Miss a month and they're dead immediately.
Some people have contacted LH and gotten their expired miles re-instated if it was because of this glitch.
Plan to use the miles within 36 months !
May 5, 2013, 2:22 pm
#56
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,452
Sounds like this would be a good card to use for an auto recurring monthly charge, like directv, gym membership, etc. That way you get the miles continuously extended without having to remember to use the card.
May 5, 2013, 5:41 pm
#57
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: LEJ BRU
Posts: 1,156
Due to the 2 years status validity and the soft landing policy my miles are already save until 2021.
If your are just talking about CC churning then yes, it is 36 month.
May 5, 2013, 11:35 pm
#58
Used to be highman123
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,541
Yeah 17k sounds weird but agent said they 'round down' for OW redemptions. I admit it's odd.
May 6, 2013, 1:22 am
#59
In memoriam
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,020
I am very careful with any program card offer that requires you to pay a hefty first year fee to get bonus miles, having been basically robbed by BA a few years ago when the program was gutted right after passing out 100K bonuses in a card offer which did not waive the annual fee.
Think I'll pass on this one.
Think I'll pass on this one.
May 6, 2013, 1:51 am
#60
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: Food Lion MVP
Posts: 114
I am very careful with any program card offer that requires you to pay a hefty first year fee to get bonus miles, having been basically robbed by BA a few years ago when the program was gutted right after passing out 100K bonuses in a card offer which did not waive the annual fee.
Think I'll pass on this one.
Think I'll pass on this one.
