Oct 18, 2013, 8:43 am
Last edit by: pgary
50,000-mile offer
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
- $89 annual fee, not waived
- no foreign transaction fees
- annual companion ticket
- 2 Lufthansa Business Lounge vouchers annually
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Barclays (USA) Lufthansa MasterCard - Revived - 50K after $5K spend
Dec 7, 2017, 5:10 pm
#571
Join Date: May 2014
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,164
100% churnable within the usual Barclaycard parameters. If you close the account, it will take 6 months to disappear from your online accounts lising, which cannot be accelerated. If you apply in those 6 months, you will likely get rejected because the system thinks you already have this product. Call in to point out it's a closed account after rejection letter, and you'll manually get approved if otherwise OK.
Dec 8, 2017, 4:28 am
#573
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,257
100% churnable within the usual Barclaycard parameters. If you close the account, it will take 6 months to disappear from your online accounts lising, which cannot be accelerated. If you apply in those 6 months, you will likely get rejected because the system thinks you already have this product. Call in to point out it's a closed account after rejection letter, and you'll manually get approved if otherwise OK.
This information is not accurate, we have had many automatic approval of this card while the canceled card still shows in the account, the trick is to apply every 5-6 months, cancel the card after 3 months, make sure that the relationship with barclay is always establish by having other barclay cards open.
A
Month 1 - apply card
Month 4 - cancel card
Month 7 - apply card again
B
Month 1 - apply card
Month 4 - cancel card
Month 10 - apply card again
Only B will obey the rule wyogold says. But it sounds like you (ninim2200) are talking about A instead?
Dec 8, 2017, 5:52 am
#574
Join Date: May 2014
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,164
hmm. i thought there was someone here that applied and got approved in < 6 months post-cancellation? maybe i was wrong. was that you, ninim2200?
based on what you say here is it A or B?
A
Month 1 - apply card
Month 4 - cancel card
Month 7 - apply card again
B
Month 1 - apply card
Month 4 - cancel card
Month 10 - apply card again
Only B will obey the rule wyogold says. But it sounds like you (ninim2200) are talking about A instead?
based on what you say here is it A or B?
A
Month 1 - apply card
Month 4 - cancel card
Month 7 - apply card again
B
Month 1 - apply card
Month 4 - cancel card
Month 10 - apply card again
Only B will obey the rule wyogold says. But it sounds like you (ninim2200) are talking about A instead?
Dec 8, 2017, 8:33 am
#575
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 889
based on what you say here is it A or B?
A
Month 1 - apply card
Month 4 - cancel card
Month 7 - apply card again
B
Month 1 - apply card
Month 4 - cancel card
Month 10 - apply card again
Only B will obey the rule wyogold says. But it sounds like you (ninim2200) are talking about A instead?
A
Month 1 - apply card
Month 4 - cancel card
Month 7 - apply card again
B
Month 1 - apply card
Month 4 - cancel card
Month 10 - apply card again
Only B will obey the rule wyogold says. But it sounds like you (ninim2200) are talking about A instead?
You can even accelerate and cancel at month 2, decent chance you'll get AF refund
Last edited by wyogold; Dec 8, 2017 at 8:44 am
Dec 8, 2017, 8:55 am
#576
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 889
Dec 8, 2017, 9:35 am
#577
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 775
Originally Posted by navatwal 
So I got the declined letter in mail today:
The exact reason being:
"Our records show that you've already established the maximum allowable number of this product with us - Please let us know immediately if you did not apply for or receive this product previously.
A credit bureau report was not used in making this determination"
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I have had this card twice in 4 years - trying to understand if there is a hidden policy in place.
So I got the declined letter in mail today:The exact reason being:
"Our records show that you've already established the maximum allowable number of this product with us - Please let us know immediately if you did not apply for or receive this product previously.
A credit bureau report was not used in making this determination"
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I have had this card twice in 4 years - trying to understand if there is a hidden policy in place.
-------I WAS "NOT" APPROVED FOR the barclay WYNDHAM card because I had the same card IN PAST--
opened in JAN. 14 2016 -cancelled it in May - 2016
opened 2nd card DEC 4 2016 cancelledit May 2017 ---
APPLIED Nov 10 2017 -rejected --
called a few times got same reply -- you have had this card and "need to wait 24 months"--- I THINK I have had most Barcclay cards anywhwere 2 to 5 times - mostly auto approved - never waited more than 6 months to repeat a card
no credit pull on last try
Dec 8, 2017, 10:35 am
#578
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,447
I suspect that only these two dates matter here and your statement cycle was such that less than a full six months had passed between your account status switching to "closed" and your new application.
Some people have reported success after five months. I suspect this is a case of statement cycle dates working in their favour. I wouldn't chance it and don't really see why anyone would. Unless you never apply for Chase cards, one M&M application every 18 months or so is enough as part of a broader strategy.
Some people have reported success after five months. I suspect this is a case of statement cycle dates working in their favour. I wouldn't chance it and don't really see why anyone would. Unless you never apply for Chase cards, one M&M application every 18 months or so is enough as part of a broader strategy.
Dec 8, 2017, 11:01 am
#579
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 889
Or unless M&M miles are especially useful for you personally and 110K miles per year are a sweet deal. Also a lot of us are LOL/24 and don't really bother with chase anymore, opportunity cost of getting to sub 5/24 is too high for us.
Dec 8, 2017, 3:05 pm
#580
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 775
Been doing this for a long,long tilme-impossible for me to get to 5/24 so that I can get a chase card-- I would need to give up to much
Feb 21, 2018, 11:56 am
#581
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Santa Barbara, CA, Park City, UT
Programs: AA EXP, Delta Plat, Marriott Plat,Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat
Posts: 901
Business Lounge certificates. Why can't I find these in my account online? Can someone point me in the right direction on this?
I'm assuming these are only per person, no guesting?
I also assume they expire after one year. I have two from my initial card year and just about coming up on the anniversary and trying to decide if I keep the card. We've got a fairly long layover in August in FRA and there are three of us. I was hoping I could use the new ones and one of the old ones, I assume not? I also wondered if they can only be used by the primary card holder and not given to a guest?
Seems that the Amex Plat benefit is only MUC still, too bad FRA doesn't have the benefit.
I'm assuming these are only per person, no guesting?
I also assume they expire after one year. I have two from my initial card year and just about coming up on the anniversary and trying to decide if I keep the card. We've got a fairly long layover in August in FRA and there are three of us. I was hoping I could use the new ones and one of the old ones, I assume not? I also wondered if they can only be used by the primary card holder and not given to a guest?
Seems that the Amex Plat benefit is only MUC still, too bad FRA doesn't have the benefit.
Feb 21, 2018, 12:02 pm
#582
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,447
https://www.miles-and-more.com/onlin...count/my_inbox
I'm assuming these are only per person, no guesting?
I also assume they expire after one year.
I also assume they expire after one year.
Feb 21, 2018, 1:12 pm
#583
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,257
This Lufthansa Business Lounge Voucher is valid for the primary Miles & More Prime World Mastercard by Resurs Bank cardmember or a travel companion for one (1) visit to Lufthansa Business Lounges worldwide. Each lounge voucher will be valid for 12 months from the date of delivery to the cardmember's personal Miles & More account in "My in-box" or until redeemed for a single entry. For admittance to the Lufthansa Business Lounges, your valid lounge voucher (printed or online) and your boarding pass for a same-day departing flight operated by a Lufthansa Group Carrier (Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines, Brussels Airlines, SWISS, Germanwings, Eurowings) must be presented. The sale as well as the offer for auction of the lounge voucher to a third party is prohibited. Lounge voucher cannot be replaced if lost or stolen. All Lufthansa Business Lounge rules will apply.
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it looks like the biz lounge voucher can only be used by the primary card holder of the barclays m&m card - how do they verify this? does the card holder name pop up on the lounge receptionist screen when you scan bar code? i dont see my name printed on the biz lounge voucher.
and i think, you can use the biz lounge voucher for another person, but only when you (card holder) are present together with that person. it doesnt appear as if the other person can just use your lounge voucher without you being there.
was thinking of letting my friends/family use them on their travels, but looks like not possible.
(esp since if i redeem J ticket, i can already be admitted into the lounge as it is)
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it looks like the biz lounge voucher can only be used by the primary card holder of the barclays m&m card - how do they verify this? does the card holder name pop up on the lounge receptionist screen when you scan bar code? i dont see my name printed on the biz lounge voucher.
and i think, you can use the biz lounge voucher for another person, but only when you (card holder) are present together with that person. it doesnt appear as if the other person can just use your lounge voucher without you being there.
was thinking of letting my friends/family use them on their travels, but looks like not possible.
(esp since if i redeem J ticket, i can already be admitted into the lounge as it is)
Feb 21, 2018, 4:11 pm
#584
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 889
it looks like the biz lounge voucher can only be used by the primary card holder of the barclays m&m card - how do they verify this? does the card holder name pop up on the lounge receptionist screen when you scan bar code? i dont see my name printed on the biz lounge voucher.
and i think, you can use the biz lounge voucher for another person, but only when you (card holder) are present together with that person. it doesnt appear as if the other person can just use your lounge voucher without you being there.
was thinking of letting my friends/family use them on their travels, but looks like not possible.
(esp since if i redeem J ticket, i can already be admitted into the lounge as it is)
and i think, you can use the biz lounge voucher for another person, but only when you (card holder) are present together with that person. it doesnt appear as if the other person can just use your lounge voucher without you being there.
was thinking of letting my friends/family use them on their travels, but looks like not possible.
(esp since if i redeem J ticket, i can already be admitted into the lounge as it is)
