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50,000-mile offer
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
- $89 annual fee, not waived
- no foreign transaction fees
- annual companion ticket
- 2 Lufthansa Business Lounge vouchers annually
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Barclays (USA) Lufthansa MasterCard - Revived - 50K after $5K spend
#541
Join Date: May 2014
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,164
i also believe 10 days should work just fine for you.
#542
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,257
I dont think there is an exact science to when to cancel after you lower your credit limit, in normal cases i let at least one statement close on the new credit limit, this is a personal preference when i have plenty of time.
i also believe 10 days should work just fine for you.
i also believe 10 days should work just fine for you.
Last edited by gnomey; Jul 29, 2017 at 11:53 am
#547
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
I've gotten a number of cards from Barclays, and while I'm careful not to apply right after doing an extended churn with other banks, and not to apply for more than one Barclays card per 6 month period, I have always had a large number of new accounts opened in the past 12 months.
What I do, and of course I have no idea if this affects my being approved or not, is put regular spend on all of my Barclays cards, and keep them open at least until the next AF posts. If I get a statement credit for the AF, I sometimes keep that card open for 2 years.
So I don't really know, but I'm guessing they are more averse to churns of their own cards, especially with only min spnd being done and early cancellations, than they are to new accounts in 12 months.
#548
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,257
Yes, but....
I've gotten a number of cards from Barclays, and while I'm careful not to apply right after doing an extended churn with other banks, and not to apply for more than one Barclays card per 6 month period, I have always had a large number of new accounts opened in the past 12 months.
What I do, and of course I have no idea if this affects my being approved or not, is put regular spend on all of my Barclays cards, and keep them open at least until the next AF posts. If I get a statement credit for the AF, I sometimes keep that card open for 2 years.
So I don't really know, but I'm guessing they are more averse to churns of their own cards, especially with only min spnd being done and early cancellations, than they are to new accounts in 12 months.
I've gotten a number of cards from Barclays, and while I'm careful not to apply right after doing an extended churn with other banks, and not to apply for more than one Barclays card per 6 month period, I have always had a large number of new accounts opened in the past 12 months.
What I do, and of course I have no idea if this affects my being approved or not, is put regular spend on all of my Barclays cards, and keep them open at least until the next AF posts. If I get a statement credit for the AF, I sometimes keep that card open for 2 years.
So I don't really know, but I'm guessing they are more averse to churns of their own cards, especially with only min spnd being done and early cancellations, than they are to new accounts in 12 months.
my statement is more relevant if you have to deal with recon. thus , with barclay, what you want is to strive for auto-approval (no human intervention)
#549
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
Hadn't thought about that, but yes, it seems nearly all of my apps have gone to auto-approval, mostly instant approval as far as I remember.
#550
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 889
6 month rule: hard or soft?
I've been looking everywhere for some guidance on BC churnability, and I know the 1 app / 6 month 'soft' rule, but couldn't find any recent DPs on this rule. I recently applied and got the AAviator red card, have a Arrival (nonplus) open, and was wondering if I should wait 6 months after AAviator opening before applying for a LH M&M again (churned in the past, now closed), or if I should just try to hit it now, it's been only 2 1/2 months since previous app? Any input would be more than welcome, there's nothing in the wiki. Of course I know YMMV, but anyone knows where the 6 month rule comes from and if it's known to be current? Any input would be very much appreciated.
#552
Join Date: May 2014
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,164
I've been looking everywhere for some guidance on BC churnability, and I know the 1 app / 6 month 'soft' rule, but couldn't find any recent DPs on this rule. I recently applied and got the AAviator red card, have a Arrival (nonplus) open, and was wondering if I should wait 6 months after AAviator opening before applying for a LH M&M again (churned in the past, now closed), or if I should just try to hit it now, it's been only 2 1/2 months since previous app? Any input would be more than welcome, there's nothing in the wiki. Of course I know YMMV, but anyone knows where the 6 month rule comes from and if it's known to be current? Any input would be very much appreciated.
Lufthansa February 2016
Lufthansa July/2016
Aviator January 2017
Lufthansa April 2017
Lufthansa September 2017
I would personally lower the credit limit on all open cards, i wouldn't apply for a card that i have the same open and i will always keep one card open at all times.
#553
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Francisco & London
Programs: UA1k, Oneworld Sapphire, Hyatt Globalist, IHG DiamondAmb, Hilton Diamond, Marriott LTP,
Posts: 1,785
In regards to this 6 month rule, I have the Aviator silver card right now from Barclays.
I have had the Aviator card since Jan 17 and upgraded in June 17 to Silver.
I'm not sure if I have applied and been rejected for other Barclays cards since then, should rejections count towards that 6 months cooling timeframe?
I will be applying for this card next week to keep M&M Miles active, the last time I had and closed this account was in Dec 2017
I have some miles that will expire at end of 2017.
Am I good to apply?
I have had the Aviator card since Jan 17 and upgraded in June 17 to Silver.
I'm not sure if I have applied and been rejected for other Barclays cards since then, should rejections count towards that 6 months cooling timeframe?
I will be applying for this card next week to keep M&M Miles active, the last time I had and closed this account was in Dec 2017
I have some miles that will expire at end of 2017.
Am I good to apply?
#554
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,784
Since you don't know how the rules will change in the future you need to record all of this. I was caught when Chase added the '24 months since last bonus' rule, which was something I hadn't thought to record. Now everything gets recorded.
#555
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Francisco & London
Programs: UA1k, Oneworld Sapphire, Hyatt Globalist, IHG DiamondAmb, Hilton Diamond, Marriott LTP,
Posts: 1,785
Setting up a spreadsheet now
Eventually you will realize how important it is to record as much as possible about your ccs. Dates for app, whether accepted or denied, dates the bonus was given, date the card was cancelled, etc....
Since you don't know how the rules will change in the future you need to record all of this. I was caught when Chase added the '24 months since last bonus' rule, which was something I hadn't thought to record. Now everything gets recorded.
Since you don't know how the rules will change in the future you need to record all of this. I was caught when Chase added the '24 months since last bonus' rule, which was something I hadn't thought to record. Now everything gets recorded.