2013 App-O-Rama (AOR) and Churn Advice Archive
#1006
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 352
You don't want credit card companies to see you have 6-8 recent financial hits/inquiries so if you do them all on one day there is a chance they won't see those hits and your chance for approval goes up dramatically.
However, some credit agencies report those hits right away and will still be seen.
Sometimes you snooze you lose on a great offer, sometimes a better one comes around and you can't get it because you already got the lesser offer. Part of the gamble
#1007
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: AA, SPG, UA, CSP
Posts: 338
So SPG and Chase INK are confirmed.
Would love to get 2 more. I applied for the US Airways from Barclays about 3 months ago, can i apply for that again? i heard its churnable.
Would love to get 2 more. I applied for the US Airways from Barclays about 3 months ago, can i apply for that again? i heard its churnable.
#1008
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 55
Why not add Chase CSP so you have 1 personal and 1 business (obviously applying for Ink first since it's a higher bonus). Then maybe add in a Citi? Hilton Reserve gives you 2 free nights which is a huge value if you use them on the high-end properties.
US Air is churnable, but I'm not sure if your 3 months is too soon or not. There should be a thread on it with the latest datapoints.
Another option: Virgin Atlantic Amex, the big bonus is back and can convert those points in Hilton HHonors and other 'currencies'.
US Air is churnable, but I'm not sure if your 3 months is too soon or not. There should be a thread on it with the latest datapoints.
Another option: Virgin Atlantic Amex, the big bonus is back and can convert those points in Hilton HHonors and other 'currencies'.
#1009
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: LAX/SNA
Programs: AA, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,887
Why not add Chase CSP so you have 1 personal and 1 business (obviously applying for Ink first since it's a higher bonus). Then maybe add in a Citi? Hilton Reserve gives you 2 free nights which is a huge value if you use them on the high-end properties.
US Air is churnable, but I'm not sure if your 3 months is too soon or not. There should be a thread on it with the latest datapoints.
Another option: Virgin Atlantic Amex, the big bonus is back and can convert those points in Hilton HHonors and other 'currencies'.
US Air is churnable, but I'm not sure if your 3 months is too soon or not. There should be a thread on it with the latest datapoints.
Another option: Virgin Atlantic Amex, the big bonus is back and can convert those points in Hilton HHonors and other 'currencies'.
I like the Virgin Atlantic card, I'm going to get it myself eventually, I have ~180k HH points, so I need to keep building them up again, and this is a remotely easy way to do that since you'll get ~110k from this card.
It might also be worth noting if you DO want Hilton points, that the Amex card can be upgraded after 12 months to Surpass for 50k points, downgraded 12 months later and then upgraded again a few months later, continuous cycle for easy-ish points.
#1010
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ORF
Programs: Amex Plat, AA, BA Silver, Marriott Plat, Choice Gold, HHonors Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 3,749
The last couple of years, SPG has run a promotion in late July/August that lowers the spending requirement while raising the bonus to 30K. In 2011, I did the personal and in 2012, the business under exactly those terms. No guarantee of a 2013 repeat, but I'd consider a substitute card for this series of apps if you haven't already applied and don't have an immediate need for the SPG.
#1011
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Seattle/Denver, USA
Programs: W/P1.9MM & Charter+ DL Diamond 2.15MM, AA EXP 1.95MM, AS MVP .6MM, O/P .9MM, A/C & S/C
Posts: 402
AOR Terms
Bad news.
Just got a denial email from USBank. Called and was told application was denied due to report from ARS, which I didn't know before, and no more details were given.
Did a quick search here on ARS and found out that I should have frozen my ARS prior to a AOR that includes this card.
I've not been following the thread about this card so there is no way for me to know about it before hand .
Any possibility that I can get this app approved somehow?
Just got a denial email from USBank. Called and was told application was denied due to report from ARS, which I didn't know before, and no more details were given.
Did a quick search here on ARS and found out that I should have frozen my ARS prior to a AOR that includes this card.
I've not been following the thread about this card so there is no way for me to know about it before hand .
Any possibility that I can get this app approved somehow?
#1012
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: In CT,left my heart in Leicester.
Programs: Work in progress.
Posts: 1,237
It's a credit reporting agency. One of the lesser known ones but one that USbank uses in addition to the regular three.
Here's how you block IDA and ARS.
http://freequentflyerbook.com/blog/2...k-credit-cards
Here's how you block IDA and ARS.
http://freequentflyerbook.com/blog/2...k-credit-cards
#1013
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: AA, SPG, UA, CSP
Posts: 338
The last couple of years, SPG has run a promotion in late July/August that lowers the spending requirement while raising the bonus to 30K. In 2011, I did the personal and in 2012, the business under exactly those terms. No guarantee of a 2013 repeat, but I'd consider a substitute card for this series of apps if you haven't already applied and don't have an immediate need for the SPG.
#1014
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: LAX/SNA
Programs: AA, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,887
Also worth considering, if you use the SPG as your every day card, and you only transfer 20k to get the 20% bonus, you're halfway to your next transfer with a 20% bonus.
#1015
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: AA, SPG, UA, CSP
Posts: 338
Depends what program you put them in, and how badly you need miles there. It's a question only you can answer. While you said meeting spend isn't an issue, for some the extra miles for less spend would cause them (like myself) to wait for it. Especially if there are some higher requirement cards mixed in, such as an Ink, or Amex Business, etc which might make meeting spending difficult on their own without heavy manufacturing.
Also worth considering, if you use the SPG as your every day card, and you only transfer 20k to get the 20% bonus, you're halfway to your next transfer with a 20% bonus.
Also worth considering, if you use the SPG as your every day card, and you only transfer 20k to get the 20% bonus, you're halfway to your next transfer with a 20% bonus.
#1016
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: LAX/SNA
Programs: AA, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,887
you make valid points. i really feel confused. The Chase Ink i need to get but i dont want to waste this round with nothing else. I guess the VA Amex is a decent amount of miles...even though i prefer AA applicable activity (thus SPG due to the transfer). Decisions Decisions!!!
In the end though, I would take 10k UR points over 5k miles in another program, unless I REALLY needed miles in a program UR doesn't transfer to, like AA. But there's no reason you can't do it now. 5k isn't enough to really be a deal breaker for me, yes it sucks, but you can manufacture 5k miles in a month without breaking a sweat.
Take a look at the Arrival from Barclays, $440 isn't a bad sign on bonus, and maybe the CSP, that gives you 3 cards, 98k UR points (not including category bonuses, so will be more), $440 in travel, and then might as well do SPG if you can handle the combined spend $14,000 in 3 months, giving you 35k miles from that. (25k sign on, 5k transfer and 5k from spend)
Last edited by PainCorp; Jun 19, 2013 at 10:00 pm
#1017
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 757
AA Biz card?
I'll second the UA suggestion.
Amex MR I prefer to strike when a promo is out (50/75/100).
I wouldn't get too wound up about having a big blitz. If only 2-3 cards match your travel then do that. What is your next trip? That could determine your answer if you need a couple nights in a top end hotel (Park Hyatt or Fairmount or Citi Hilton Reserve) or quick hotel status (PC/Hyatt/Hilton/Ritz).
Since you are Boston based, Avios to Ireland is also something to consider, but there are many ways to get Avios (UR, MR, BA card), and the last couple years around Dec/Jan the BA card has bumped to 100K with high spend.
I'll second the UA suggestion.
Amex MR I prefer to strike when a promo is out (50/75/100).
I wouldn't get too wound up about having a big blitz. If only 2-3 cards match your travel then do that. What is your next trip? That could determine your answer if you need a couple nights in a top end hotel (Park Hyatt or Fairmount or Citi Hilton Reserve) or quick hotel status (PC/Hyatt/Hilton/Ritz).
Since you are Boston based, Avios to Ireland is also something to consider, but there are many ways to get Avios (UR, MR, BA card), and the last couple years around Dec/Jan the BA card has bumped to 100K with high spend.
#1018
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 757
OP - make sure you message chase to ask for the extra 10K for the INK per the offers this week.
#1019
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: AA, SPG, UA, CSP
Posts: 338
I think i will get the Chase (really need it for the GC game) and not do an AOR. Maybe do an AOR in a couple of months. It will also not increase my hits on my credit - the only downside is i will have to wait another 90 days before i can pull the trigger again. And if any good deals come in the middle, i might not be able to take advantage. (Thats the name of the game i guess).
#1020
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: AA, SPG, UA, CSP
Posts: 338
AA Biz card?
I'll second the UA suggestion.
Amex MR I prefer to strike when a promo is out (50/75/100).
I wouldn't get too wound up about having a big blitz. If only 2-3 cards match your travel then do that. What is your next trip? That could determine your answer if you need a couple nights in a top end hotel (Park Hyatt or Fairmount or Citi Hilton Reserve) or quick hotel status (PC/Hyatt/Hilton/Ritz).
Since you are Boston based, Avios to Ireland is also something to consider, but there are many ways to get Avios (UR, MR, BA card), and the last couple years around Dec/Jan the BA card has bumped to 100K with high spend.
I'll second the UA suggestion.
Amex MR I prefer to strike when a promo is out (50/75/100).
I wouldn't get too wound up about having a big blitz. If only 2-3 cards match your travel then do that. What is your next trip? That could determine your answer if you need a couple nights in a top end hotel (Park Hyatt or Fairmount or Citi Hilton Reserve) or quick hotel status (PC/Hyatt/Hilton/Ritz).
Since you are Boston based, Avios to Ireland is also something to consider, but there are many ways to get Avios (UR, MR, BA card), and the last couple years around Dec/Jan the BA card has bumped to 100K with high spend.