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Old Mar 18, 2016, 8:54 am
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There are three services to pay your U.S. federal taxes: IRS Pay Your Taxes by Debit or Credit Card or Digital Wallet

pay1040.com 1.87% fee on credit (lowered from 1.99% on 01/02/2023). $2.50 flat fee on debit.
payUSAtax.com - 1.82% fee on credit (rate updated 01/03/2024 from 1.85%). $2.20 flat fee on debit.
See this thread about payUSAtax customer service. Many people have reported that they never respond to support requests.
ACI Payments, Inc - 1.98% fee on credit. $2.20 flat fee on debit.

Many states also permit online tax payment; check with your state or this list from MasterCard.

The IRS has a system to view payments, and it's good practice to confirm all payments within a short time frame, so that any rare lost payment issue can be disputed.
Be mindful of time zones if paying on the due date as pay1040.com uses CDT timestamp and payusatax.com uses EDT timestamp.

In general, you're allowed 2 payments per processor above per type of tax (annual and quarterlies being 2 different types, for example). They're not billed as cash advance fees. If 6 payments is not enough to pay your bill you can use a service such as plastiq (2.25% fee). If making multiple payments, it is advised you join here to track your payments link , you will be required to give your banking information and will receive a pin via snail mail
(Confirmed 4/2018 in post #429)

Fees are tax-deductible for C-Corps but not individuals (2018 tax reform eliminated "miscellaneous itemized deductions"). The majority of people will not be able to deduct that expense, check with your accountant.

When making multiple payments at or near your credit limit multiple times, allow yourself 3-5 days between payments for the charge to show up on your card and your bank payment to clear. If you wait until April 15th to make payments, you will only be able to clear the first payment.

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- Chase Freedom Unlimited, 1.5X Ultimate Rewards, paired with a premium card (Sapphire Preferred, Sapphire Reserve, INK Preferred, INK Plus)
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- Amex Everyday Preferred 1.5X Membership Rewards, (need to make 30 transactions in a month for 50% bonus)
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Pre-Funding allowed:
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Pre-Funding not-allowed:
Chase

Quarterly tax due dates: the 15th of April, June, September, January


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Old Mar 24, 2016, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by rocky_nnc
Well I was trying to do the same -> Buying Simon VGC and use them to pay off IRS instead of paying 1.87%

I had the same idea but for my property tax. I think the one concern is how many money orders they will accept. I plan to call tomorrow to determine that before I go through the hassle of trying to get that many money orders. Would love to hear if you have success.
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Old Mar 25, 2016, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by WombatCA
I had the same idea but for my property tax. I think the one concern is how many money orders they will accept. I plan to call tomorrow to determine that before I go through the hassle of trying to get that many money orders. Would love to hear if you have success.
sure, will update here.
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Old Apr 7, 2016, 8:50 pm
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Newbie to this topic -

We usually e-file, 1st time attempting using CC. with over 15K due on April 15, wanted to pay $3k via Pay1040.com (1.87%) to meet Marriot card minumum spend, 12K via debit or bank ACH.

Not sure how to do this though. Should we pay advance, i.e., today or tomorrow, with CC for $3K via pay1040.com? Then note on tax return' already paid $3K'? Or via the integrated at e-file @2.35%, and split $3K and bank acct info for $12K?

Thank you...

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Old Apr 14, 2016, 4:18 pm
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Last day is April 18 not April 15
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Old Apr 15, 2016, 12:14 am
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I wouldn't think you need to note anything on the tax return. I paid my taxes with pay1040.com this year and they ask for your SSN along with payment, I presume so it gets matched up correctly.
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Old Apr 15, 2016, 8:29 am
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anyone know if "time stamping" via these payment sites is all that counts?
I.E., as long as I click "submit" by 11:59pm Monday 4/18, I'm OK as far as IRS concerned? Kinda like a postmark?

Asking for a procrastinating friend
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Old Apr 15, 2016, 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by levilevi
anyone know if "time stamping" via these payment sites is all that counts?
I.E., as long as I click "submit" by 11:59pm Monday 4/18, I'm OK as far as IRS concerned? Kinda like a postmark?
That's what it says. (I paid two days ago, and noticed that statement.)
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by krazykanuck
I wouldn't think you need to note anything on the tax return. I paid my taxes with pay1040.com this year and they ask for your SSN along with payment, I presume so it gets matched up correctly.
IRS keeps a payment account for you that registers all payments made under your SSN, taxes paid for, and refunds issued. Regarding estimated tax payments, withholding, etc. it is effectively a bank account for holding deposits and making payments. They even out the account with the processing of each tax year. If you are overpaid you will get a refund or an application to next year's taxes in whatever amount is in your account no matter what you show on your tax return. You do not earn interest on over-payments but you do pay interest and penalties on underpayments.

It is possible to obtain a transcript of all transactions for a past tax year but apparently not for a current year (ie 2016 now, but you could get the 2015 record.)
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 10:20 am
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is it possible that i pay low now & pay at the end of the year? during returns?
is it like doing anything wrong?
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by rocky_nnc
is it possible that i pay low now & pay at the end of the year? during returns?
is it like doing anything wrong?
Based on your income throughout a year, you might get hit with underpayment interest charges. The best think is to consult with an accountant to review your personal situation.
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by TAHKUCT
Based on your income throughout a year, you might get hit with underpayment interest charges. The best think is to consult with an accountant to review your personal situation.
thanx :-)
will keep it clean.
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by rocky_nnc
is it possible that i pay low now & pay at the end of the year? during returns?
is it like doing anything wrong?
You could overpay during the year to meet a credit card incentive pay for example and get a refund to your checking account when filing your taxes. Probably not the most efficient way, but a way to manufacture some spending.
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Old Apr 26, 2016, 8:22 am
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Why am I still not able to make 2016 1040ES payments for Q2? The sites are saying I've reached the maximum payments for this quarter. It's after both 4/1/16 and 4/18/16. I made 2 payments per processor (6 total) in Q1 to 2016 1040ES with no problem (3/9, 3/10 and 3/26).
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Old Apr 26, 2016, 9:11 am
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I think you can't do each quarter until about six weeks before the due date. They haven't opened up that window yet.
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Old Apr 26, 2016, 9:15 am
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Originally Posted by josephstern
I think you can't do each quarter until about six weeks before the due date. They haven't opened up that window yet.
Ahh ok. I was wondering about that. I usually do my payments closer to due dates so that makes sense. Was just trying to get rid of some of my VGCs now while I have extras.
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