1,000,000 points in 6 months
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: PA
Posts: 126
1,000,000 points in 6 months
Just wanted to provide an update and some data points for others. It's been about 3.5 months since my first AOR documented in this thread. I have since applied for several more cards, but have decided to cool it for at least 6 months to let the inquiries age. This was my path to about 1M points in just over 6 months.
Scores based on USAA Monitoring:
Transunion: 762
Equifax: 780
Experian: 762 (down from about 780-790 before I started)
Oldest Account: 20.4 years
Average age: 4.3 years
Perfect payment history and no negative marks
My age: under 30
Here are my inquiry counts (12 month, 6 month, 3 month):
Transunion: 5, 3, 3
Equifax: 3, 1, 1
Experian: 20, 13, 7 (6 from auto loan in 2/2012 when dealer shopped around for rates for me)
Utilization under 5%
Here is my card history in just over 6 months along with the bonuses:
6/12 - Chase Southwest Personal Plus - 50k Rapid Rewards
7/12 - Barclays US Airways - 40k Dividend Miles
7/12 - Chase Sapphire Preferred - 40k UR
7/12 - *Chase Southwest Business - 50k Rapid Rewards
8/12 - Citi AA Visa - 50k AA
8/12 - Citi AA Amex - 50k AA
8/12 - Amex Starwood (SPG) - 30k SPG
8/12 - BOH Hawaiian - 35k Hawaiian (transferred to 70k HHonors)
8/12 - BOA Hawaiian - 35k Hawaiian (transferred to 70k HHonors)
10/12 - *Citi AA Business - 50k AA
10/12 - Amex Hilton - 65k HHonors
10/12 - Citi HHonors - 50k HHonors
10/12 - Citi HHonors - 50k HHonors
10/12 - Barclays NFL card - $400 cash
11/12 - *Chase Ink Bold - 50k UR
12/12 - Chase Sapphire Preferred (converted from Visa to MC) - 40k UR
12/12 - Chase Ink Bold - 50k UR
1/13 - Citi HHonors - 50k HHonors
1/13 - Citi HHonors - 50k HHonors
1/13 - DENIED for 2nd US Airways card due to number of recent accounts.
Total of 905,000 points, not counting any points from spending. Minimum spend of $43k to get the bonuses. Plus probably 30k+ points from bonus categories (5X office supply, gas, groceries, pharmacy) and 30k from Citi AA checking offer.
Cost to me from ATM fees, reload fees, Vanilla fees, annual fees: ~$250 profit (400 cashback from NFL card, Citi AA card statement credits from purchasing AA gift cards and selling at Plastic Jungle)
*The Southwest Business, Citi AA business and 1st Chase Ink Bold were applied for through an LLC in which I'm a partner, though the approval is based on my personal income since the business has little to no profits right now. The 2nd Ink Bold I used my SSN for the Tax ID.
Spend achieved through:
Vanilla Reloads: ~$18k
Target Amex: $3k
OneVanilla debits:$4k
Amazon Payments: $10k
Regular spend: ~$3k/month
Hate to sound like I'm bragging (even though I'm pretty proud), but I wanted to share my experience.
Scores based on USAA Monitoring:
Transunion: 762
Equifax: 780
Experian: 762 (down from about 780-790 before I started)
Oldest Account: 20.4 years
Average age: 4.3 years
Perfect payment history and no negative marks
My age: under 30
Here are my inquiry counts (12 month, 6 month, 3 month):
Transunion: 5, 3, 3
Equifax: 3, 1, 1
Experian: 20, 13, 7 (6 from auto loan in 2/2012 when dealer shopped around for rates for me)
Utilization under 5%
Here is my card history in just over 6 months along with the bonuses:
6/12 - Chase Southwest Personal Plus - 50k Rapid Rewards
7/12 - Barclays US Airways - 40k Dividend Miles
7/12 - Chase Sapphire Preferred - 40k UR
7/12 - *Chase Southwest Business - 50k Rapid Rewards
8/12 - Citi AA Visa - 50k AA
8/12 - Citi AA Amex - 50k AA
8/12 - Amex Starwood (SPG) - 30k SPG
8/12 - BOH Hawaiian - 35k Hawaiian (transferred to 70k HHonors)
8/12 - BOA Hawaiian - 35k Hawaiian (transferred to 70k HHonors)
10/12 - *Citi AA Business - 50k AA
10/12 - Amex Hilton - 65k HHonors
10/12 - Citi HHonors - 50k HHonors
10/12 - Citi HHonors - 50k HHonors
10/12 - Barclays NFL card - $400 cash
11/12 - *Chase Ink Bold - 50k UR
12/12 - Chase Sapphire Preferred (converted from Visa to MC) - 40k UR
12/12 - Chase Ink Bold - 50k UR
1/13 - Citi HHonors - 50k HHonors
1/13 - Citi HHonors - 50k HHonors
1/13 - DENIED for 2nd US Airways card due to number of recent accounts.
Total of 905,000 points, not counting any points from spending. Minimum spend of $43k to get the bonuses. Plus probably 30k+ points from bonus categories (5X office supply, gas, groceries, pharmacy) and 30k from Citi AA checking offer.
Cost to me from ATM fees, reload fees, Vanilla fees, annual fees: ~$250 profit (400 cashback from NFL card, Citi AA card statement credits from purchasing AA gift cards and selling at Plastic Jungle)
*The Southwest Business, Citi AA business and 1st Chase Ink Bold were applied for through an LLC in which I'm a partner, though the approval is based on my personal income since the business has little to no profits right now. The 2nd Ink Bold I used my SSN for the Tax ID.
Spend achieved through:
Vanilla Reloads: ~$18k
Target Amex: $3k
OneVanilla debits:$4k
Amazon Payments: $10k
Regular spend: ~$3k/month
Hate to sound like I'm bragging (even though I'm pretty proud), but I wanted to share my experience.
#3
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 29,536
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry: BlackBerry8530/5.0.0.1030 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/417)
"Oldest Account: 20.4 years
....
My age: under 30"
Which bank issued a credit card to a nine-year-old?
"Oldest Account: 20.4 years
....
My age: under 30"
Which bank issued a credit card to a nine-year-old?
#4
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: PA
Posts: 126
As of right now, I have no trips planned. I got into the "game" because I want to take my wife to Paris sometime in the future, but we have a 1.5 year old and another one due next month. I guess the 4 of us could head to Paris, but it probably wouldn't be the same
#5
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: PA
Posts: 126
Haha, Bank of America. Authorized user from years ago on one of my parents' accounts. Opened in 1992.
Last edited by met152; Jan 4, 2013 at 10:34 pm Reason: Added BOA
#6
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2
I am a confessed noob to this, I am very excited at the prospect of being able to also take my wife to exotic and far off destinations at a fraction of the price, but could you explain to me this breakdown? I know Amazon payments (helped me get my miles for Capital One) but could you explain Vanilla Reloads, Target Amex, and OneVanilla debits?
My wife took me to Paris for my birthday 2 weeks ago and I already want to go back.
#8
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: LAS
Programs: DL PM, UA PS, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,904
#9
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Michigan
Programs: EconoLodge Gold BedBug Elite
Posts: 170
I question the accuracy of these monitoring services. I have Experians credit monitoring for a couple bucks a month. They were showing my score at 795. I'm in the marking to buy another house and I went ahead and paid for a full "all three bureau report with score". They were about about the same -+10ish
Here is where I get pissy. The mortgage company ran their classic "CBC Innovis" report and it showed something like 725. The mortgage insurance company claims a three bureau score of 690, 672, 712. ... is going on? I have a rotating regular balance of about $2000 a month that I pay off regularly. I have never missed a payment in a decade. I own cars, have owned cars, and have never had an issue.
Here is where I get pissy. The mortgage company ran their classic "CBC Innovis" report and it showed something like 725. The mortgage insurance company claims a three bureau score of 690, 672, 712. ... is going on? I have a rotating regular balance of about $2000 a month that I pay off regularly. I have never missed a payment in a decade. I own cars, have owned cars, and have never had an issue.
#12
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: PA
Posts: 126
I am a confessed noob to this, I am very excited at the prospect of being able to also take my wife to exotic and far off destinations at a fraction of the price, but could you explain to me this breakdown? I know Amazon payments (helped me get my miles for Capital One) but could you explain Vanilla Reloads, Target Amex, and OneVanilla debits?
My wife took me to Paris for my birthday 2 weeks ago and I already want to go back.
My wife took me to Paris for my birthday 2 weeks ago and I already want to go back.
#13
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: PA
Posts: 126
#14
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: PA
Posts: 126
I qualified for the companion pass at the end of August. Have only taken advantage of it for 1 r/t flight so far.
#15
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: 5280/8150
Programs: Flying and sleeping
Posts: 341
I question the accuracy of these monitoring services. I have Experians credit monitoring for a couple bucks a month. They were showing my score at 795. I'm in the marking to buy another house and I went ahead and paid for a full "all three bureau report with score". They were about about the same -+10ish
Here is where I get pissy. The mortgage company ran their classic "CBC Innovis" report and it showed something like 725. The mortgage insurance company claims a three bureau score of 690, 672, 712. ... is going on? I have a rotating regular balance of about $2000 a month that I pay off regularly. I have never missed a payment in a decade. I own cars, have owned cars, and have never had an issue.
Here is where I get pissy. The mortgage company ran their classic "CBC Innovis" report and it showed something like 725. The mortgage insurance company claims a three bureau score of 690, 672, 712. ... is going on? I have a rotating regular balance of about $2000 a month that I pay off regularly. I have never missed a payment in a decade. I own cars, have owned cars, and have never had an issue.
Back on topic: Nicely done, OP! That's some serious chutzpah.