Originally Posted by hiima
(Post 26452620)
Why would you attempt to seize it, it's pretty much like the coin card. Would you try to seize a Ritz card or a black card if they're chip wasn't working? And have fun trying to seize it from someone.
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People who work at store don't try that hard. They just wanna get paid and not annoy or be annoyed by people. You're thinking too hard.
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Originally Posted by runb4fun
(Post 26452739)
People who work at store don't try that hard. They just wanna get paid and not annoy or be annoyed by people. You're thinking too hard.
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Originally Posted by AllieKat
(Post 26453261)
The network guidelines outright say things like this are supposed to be seized, they're clearly counterfeit cards. The banks get some blame too. The fact fallback almost always gets approved is ridiculous. The network guidelines are clear fallback should be declined.
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I just applied for and received a duralumin (aluminum alloy) credit card here in Singapore. Given that the numbers and name are engraved and not embossed, the card does state its for "electronic use only".
I understand "electronic use only" cards are only accepted at terminals which can receive a electronic authorization from the issuing bank. Hence this card might not be accepted if the POS terminal has no data connection (merchant is in isolated areas, is experiencing network outrages or for purchases in the air and on trains). My question is whether purchases for food, drinks and duty free purchases while on planes on those portable terminals used by airline crew are considered electronic or offline purchases? I often carry at least one Visa, MC and Amex, (and usually from different banks) when I travel, and the other cards have embossed numbers/names, so this is not a big deal. But the duralumin card does offer 2x points on foreign and dining transactions, so I hope to maximize its use. |
Originally Posted by phelansg
(Post 26818661)
My question is whether purchases for food, drinks and duty free purchases while on planes on those portable terminals used by airline crew are considered electronic or offline purchases?
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Originally Posted by tmiw
(Post 26820767)
In the past those universally ran offline, but US-based airlines (can't comment about ones in other countries) now generally run them electronically at least while the aircraft is over the continental US.
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Over the weekend I made a purchase from a merchant in the Florida Keys who still uses a manual imprinter and made a voice call for authorization.
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Originally Posted by phelansg
(Post 26818661)
I just applied for and received a duralumin (aluminum alloy) credit card here in Singapore. Given that the numbers and name are engraved and not embossed, the card does state its for "electronic use only".
I understand "electronic use only" cards are only accepted at terminals which can receive a electronic authorization from the issuing bank. Hence this card might not be accepted if the POS terminal has no data connection (merchant is in isolated areas, is experiencing network outrages or for purchases in the air and on trains). My question is whether purchases for food, drinks and duty free purchases while on planes on those portable terminals used by airline crew are considered electronic or offline purchases? I often carry at least one Visa, MC and Amex, (and usually from different banks) when I travel, and the other cards have embossed numbers/names, so this is not a big deal. But the duralumin card does offer 2x points on foreign and dining transactions, so I hope to maximize its use. |
As mentioned elsewhere, the US version of AmEx Platinum is now a metal card. I wonder how this changes their contactless strategy; it's always been opt-in since the switch to chip and has never been promoted all that much, at least relative to the mobile payment systems anyway.
On that note, does metal seem like all that desired of a feature among the general public? I haven't looked through this thread recently but I remember only Chase and AmEx offering it out of the major banks and definitely not on all of their cards at that. |
Originally Posted by AllieKat
(Post 26452636)
If the chip wasn't working and I saw someone trying to force fallback, I'd look at the card. When it became obvious the card was counterfeit, I'd follow the network guidelines to attempt seizing it.
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CapitalOne
Originally Posted by tmiw
(Post 28006515)
As mentioned elsewhere, the US version of AmEx Platinum is now a metal card. I wonder how this changes their contactless strategy; it's always been opt-in since the switch to chip and has never been promoted all that much, at least relative to the mobile payment systems anyway.
On that note, does metal seem like all that desired of a feature among the general public? I haven't looked through this thread recently but I remember only Chase and AmEx offering it out of the major banks and definitely not on all of their cards at that. |
Originally Posted by freakflyer
(Post 28011756)
I just got a new Capital One Venture metal card. I was told that it would also be contactless like my previous plastic card, but so far I have not gotten the contactless to work with the card. Do you think that their reps just don't understand the features? THey double checked to validate (so they said) that I wouldn't lose this feature.
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I rather have a metal card than a plastic. Metals are hard to get worn out like plastic cards. Whenever my card gets worn out, I order a new card cause numbers are hard to see. Lol
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Originally Posted by trikotret
(Post 28013472)
I rather have a metal card than a plastic. Metals are hard to get worn out like plastic cards. Whenever my card gets worn out, I order a new card cause numbers are hard to see. Lol
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