Applying for Business Credit Cards [Consolidated]
#346
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: SMF
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike2200
You're going to ask a bunch of strangers on a public forum what credit card you should use to spend 2.4 million yearly, perhaps better asked to your tax accountant on the best procedure to use.
Oh, and welcome to Flyer talk
Seriously. ... does a tax accountant know about miles/points. And frankly its not relevant in any way. Which cards he is using has no bearing on his business in general. And for the most part ... does a tax accountant know about running a business? The only business they know is running a tax business :-)
With todays technology to download statements, transactions into Quickbooks etc that should be no problem to split things.
Originally Posted by mike2200
You're going to ask a bunch of strangers on a public forum what credit card you should use to spend 2.4 million yearly, perhaps better asked to your tax accountant on the best procedure to use.
Oh, and welcome to Flyer talk
Seriously. ... does a tax accountant know about miles/points. And frankly its not relevant in any way. Which cards he is using has no bearing on his business in general. And for the most part ... does a tax accountant know about running a business? The only business they know is running a tax business :-)
With todays technology to download statements, transactions into Quickbooks etc that should be no problem to split things.
Last edited by mike2200; Mar 6, 2016 at 11:48 am
#347
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: EWR
Programs: World of Hyatt, Marriott Bonvoy, Hilton Honors, UA Mileage Plus
Posts: 1,255
Not sure how much travel you want to do or currently do. But you can spend 400k on SPG and get your 400,000 points which will let you and a partner fly business class pretty much anywhere and get you a weeks stay at a top their hotel and then put $2 mil on a 2% cash back card for a $40,000/yr tax free bonus.
That sounds pretty good to me.
Also, depending on what your buying and from whom, you may be able to negotiate a cheaper cash price saving you even more money. Food for thought.
That sounds pretty good to me.
Also, depending on what your buying and from whom, you may be able to negotiate a cheaper cash price saving you even more money. Food for thought.
Last edited by jags86; Feb 25, 2016 at 1:27 pm Reason: additional thoughts
#348
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 53
Based on a $2.4 million in annual spending, my concern is if banks will start asking questions or closing down accounts for the alleged MS.
#349
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NY
Posts: 733
Not if it's legitimate spending which as a business I'm sure it would be. My business spends tens of thousands monthly on credit cards and there hasn't been one issue with my spending. You're looking for something that doesn't exist when it comes to a business and its spending. We have to account for every dollar that goes in and out of the business and manufacturing spending as a legitimate business would be a very stupid thing to do.
Doing MS with a true business is a bookkeeping nightmare. I did it a little bit with Amex $3K cards when there was a high cash back option, but even that was way more paperwork that it was worth.
To the OP- I am not quite at that level, but like you there are massive legit non-bonus expenses every month. I've found that I can get all the miles I need from sign-on bonuses, and use the business to meet the spend. All the other expenses go on Barclays Arrival+. Because of the way we like to travel (non-chain boutique hotels, private tour guides, AirB&B rentals, etc), there are lots of cash expenses even if the trip is "free". Barclays 2.1% Cash Back comes in handy. I've been able to keep the travel rebates off the P&L sheet for now. YMMV.
#350
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Jackson, WY
Posts: 543
We charge $50k or so a month. An issue we have is the credit limit, I couldn't get a limit that high despite multiple attempts. So if you go with one card be prepared to pay if off weekly.
I spread it out over two chase inks. Our bonus category spend - gas/hotels/restaurant/office/phone is 50%. I'd look hard at a 2% card, $50k back is a lot!
I spread it out over two chase inks. Our bonus category spend - gas/hotels/restaurant/office/phone is 50%. I'd look hard at a 2% card, $50k back is a lot!
#351
formerly PHLGrump
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: PHL
Posts: 99
Which business credit card do you recommend?
I opened shop recently and am looking for a business credit card. I won't be spending a ton of money on it, but I don't want a simple cash back card.
Looking for some solid point bonuses. Thanks for your help!
Looking for some solid point bonuses. Thanks for your help!
#353
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: PHL
Posts: 99
#355
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,020
Key point about biz cards is that they lack the very important consumer protections of personal cards. Biz card users are not protected by, e.g., the Fair Credit Billing Act.
Personally, I have used personal cards for business charges for many years with no problems.
Only time I use biz card is to get a big bonus. As soon as bonus is received I go back to personal cards.
Contrary to what the banks suggest there is no real advantage to a small business in using biz cards.
Personally, I have used personal cards for business charges for many years with no problems.
Only time I use biz card is to get a big bonus. As soon as bonus is received I go back to personal cards.
Contrary to what the banks suggest there is no real advantage to a small business in using biz cards.
#356
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Germany
Programs: AV,ST,OW Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 209
Key point about biz cards is that they lack the very important consumer protections of personal cards. Biz card users are not protected by, e.g., the Fair Credit Billing Act.
Personally, I have used personal cards for business charges for many years with no problems.
Only time I use biz card is to get a big bonus. As soon as bonus is received I go back to personal cards.
Contrary to what the banks suggest there is no real advantage to a small business in using biz cards.
Personally, I have used personal cards for business charges for many years with no problems.
Only time I use biz card is to get a big bonus. As soon as bonus is received I go back to personal cards.
Contrary to what the banks suggest there is no real advantage to a small business in using biz cards.
#358
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Northern Virginia
Programs: AAdvantage
Posts: 15
Best Business Rewards Card
Spent a while trying to figure the best place to post this. Mods, please move if not.
I have a small company, maybe 20 cards, maybe $100,000 charged annually. The miles plan I've been using has become less and less rewarding in recent years, going to make a change and deciding to which card/program. The Capital One Spark Miles card looks decent. I just want my reward points to be of some value. Is the Spark card the best for general rewards, hotels, cars, as well as airline travel? Appreciate any feedback.
I have a small company, maybe 20 cards, maybe $100,000 charged annually. The miles plan I've been using has become less and less rewarding in recent years, going to make a change and deciding to which card/program. The Capital One Spark Miles card looks decent. I just want my reward points to be of some value. Is the Spark card the best for general rewards, hotels, cars, as well as airline travel? Appreciate any feedback.
#359
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I am moving the thread to the 'Credit Card Programs' forum.
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#360
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Spent a while trying to figure the best place to post this. Mods, please move if not.
I have a small company, maybe 20 cards, maybe $100,000 charged annually. The miles plan I've been using has become less and less rewarding in recent years, going to make a change and deciding to which card/program. The Capital One Spark Miles card looks decent. I just want my reward points to be of some value. Is the Spark card the best for general rewards, hotels, cars, as well as airline travel? Appreciate any feedback.
I have a small company, maybe 20 cards, maybe $100,000 charged annually. The miles plan I've been using has become less and less rewarding in recent years, going to make a change and deciding to which card/program. The Capital One Spark Miles card looks decent. I just want my reward points to be of some value. Is the Spark card the best for general rewards, hotels, cars, as well as airline travel? Appreciate any feedback.
If, OTOH, you will only use Sparks "Miles" (actually points) for discount economy flights, lower cost hotels, etc, then it's decent, but again, it's no better than any other cash back card that earns at the same rate (except if you need to the discipline of segregating your travel cash back from general cash back).
The obvious reference for cash back is the 2% of Citi's Double Cash with no annual fee. Another reference is Barclay Arrival+, which many consider a better-than-average travel-specific cash back card (while few consider anything from Cap One to be "best in class"). Neither is a business card, though.
Finally, remember that any card-specific program, you can only earn through the card. As opposed to an airline program, the miles you earn from the card combine with the miles you earn on paid flights combine with the miles you earn with car rentals (if you credit to the airline) combine with the miles you earn in airline dining programs combine with the miles you earn in airline shopping programs. Of course, if you're putting $100k of spend on cards, you might not care about all that.