No more Covid testing to travel to USA- reversed for travelers from China Jan 5, 2023
Jun 14, 2022, 2:27 pm
#181
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Great news! Sound like US citizens could easily get mobile boarding pass for flying back to US now without have to going to check-in desks to show negative tests?
bet airlines is happy about it, less works to do for them (I could get mobile boarding pass for my recent trip to Europe but couldn’t for my Europe to US flight due to this requirement)..
bet airlines is happy about it, less works to do for them (I could get mobile boarding pass for my recent trip to Europe but couldn’t for my Europe to US flight due to this requirement)..
Jun 14, 2022, 2:32 pm
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It sounds like the tracing form is still required? I think with United I just entered the information during online checkin?
Jun 15, 2022, 8:16 am
#184
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Well, for the people who are upset about possibly flying with someone who has covid, the same options apply since this started. If you are at high risk and feel catching covid might put you in the hospital, then don't travel. With the new variants, most only show mild symptoms. Covid is not going away, but if variants remain mild, most people can go on with their lives.
Jun 15, 2022, 8:18 am
#185
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Who thinks it will solve airport staffing issues? No clue why anyone might think that. And I think it is huge for returning Americans, there are plenty of tales of people failing a test and being stuck overseas for ~11 days and the associated misery with obtaining recovery letters, accommodation, expenses, and so on.
Jun 15, 2022, 10:19 am
#186
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I can still:
-Have a false negative test and thus the test was of no value.
-Turn Covid positive by the following morning and the test the day before was of no value.
Any single Covid test on an asymptomatic subject was always just theater. If it was done on symptomatic patients, then that's a different subject.
No insults next time please.
Jun 15, 2022, 10:35 am
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Sir, as a physician, I must tell you that if I take "your" test at 0900 the day before flight and its "negative".
I can still:
-Have a false negative test and thus the test was of no value.
-Turn Covid positive by the following morning and the test the day before was of no value.
Any single Covid test on an asymptomatic subject was always just theater. If it was done on symptomatic patients, then that's a different subject.
I can still:
-Have a false negative test and thus the test was of no value.
-Turn Covid positive by the following morning and the test the day before was of no value.
Any single Covid test on an asymptomatic subject was always just theater. If it was done on symptomatic patients, then that's a different subject.
Jun 15, 2022, 11:15 am
#188
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Sir, as a physician, I must tell you that if I take "your" test at 0900 the day before flight and its "negative".
I can still:
-Have a false negative test and thus the test was of no value.
-Turn Covid positive by the following morning and the test the day before was of no value.
Any single Covid test on an asymptomatic subject was always just theater. If it was done on symptomatic patients, then that's a different subject.
No insults next time please.
I can still:
-Have a false negative test and thus the test was of no value.
-Turn Covid positive by the following morning and the test the day before was of no value.
Any single Covid test on an asymptomatic subject was always just theater. If it was done on symptomatic patients, then that's a different subject.
No insults next time please.
Last edited by nk15; Jun 15, 2022 at 11:20 am
Jun 15, 2022, 11:20 am
#189
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When the testing requirement was put in place there were a few days between the announcement and the “go live” date. It is the same kind of thing with the end of the testing requirement.
For foreign airports with multiple US flights, the airlines with their own US-bound flights out of the airport will be quick to get the situation right and so no need for a back-up testing plan for that reason for Monday departures from there. Even at out-stations feeding those major foreign gateways to the US, they will typically have it right on time too.
For foreign airports with multiple US flights, the airlines with their own US-bound flights out of the airport will be quick to get the situation right and so no need for a back-up testing plan for that reason for Monday departures from there. Even at out-stations feeding those major foreign gateways to the US, they will typically have it right on time too.
Jun 15, 2022, 11:24 am
#190
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I'm really not sure what the purpose of the negative test requirement was, but it definitely wasn't to keep COVID off planes.
Jun 15, 2022, 11:51 am
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Would you truly accept a test that misses 13% of people who have active metastatic breast cancer and 29% of people who have breast cancer detectable by other methods but had not spread yet?
Because that's what you are saying with the Covid test, which is truly unacceptable.
Jun 15, 2022, 12:15 pm
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Sir you know how bad that is for a test?!
Would you truly accept a test that misses 13% of people who have active metastatic breast cancer and 29% of people who have breast cancer detectable by other methods but had not spread yet?
Because that's what you are saying with the Covid test, which is truly unacceptable.
Would you truly accept a test that misses 13% of people who have active metastatic breast cancer and 29% of people who have breast cancer detectable by other methods but had not spread yet?
Because that's what you are saying with the Covid test, which is truly unacceptable.
As a doctor, are you proposing going from 71-87% detection with easy means to 0% detection in the context of public health prevention?
Last edited by nk15; Jun 15, 2022 at 1:03 pm
Jun 15, 2022, 12:26 pm
#193
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- the test was done in the hours before boarding (and remember it is 100% accurate), with results within the hour
- the test is free
- the test is unintrusive (no brain scraping), and most importantly
- the airlines are required to rebook or refund free of charge pax who test positive and thus are not able to travel.
Jun 15, 2022, 12:34 pm
#194
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Even if it caught 100% without fail ever, I would still propose dropping it, unless:
- the test was done in the hours before boarding (and remember it is 100% accurate), with results within the hour
- the test is free
- the test is unintrusive (no brain scraping), and most importantly
- the airlines are required to rebook or refund free of charge pax who test positive and thus are not able to travel.
- the test was done in the hours before boarding (and remember it is 100% accurate), with results within the hour
- the test is free
- the test is unintrusive (no brain scraping), and most importantly
- the airlines are required to rebook or refund free of charge pax who test positive and thus are not able to travel.
Last edited by nk15; Jun 15, 2022 at 12:51 pm
Jun 15, 2022, 12:44 pm
#195
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This argument nonsense, saying that because the testing is not perfect, discard it completely... The tests are relatively cheap, $5-35 in most situations. There is no brain scraping anymore, what are you talking about. If you test positive, you should not be on the plane anyway.
Regards