TSA no longer enforcing US mask mandate
#211
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: California
Posts: 229
I am a little jealous that my wife got to take a flight before me after this mandate is finally over. (she only travels about once a year without me & I travel all of the time without her) I dropped her off at 5:15 for her 6:00 am flight this morning and had to get out of the car to poke my head in. It was great - not a mask in sight.
#212
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,372
Agreed. At this point, pragmatism and the bottom line will determine the duration of these measures. If I recall, initially the CDC guided to 10-day isolation for the deadly Omi pathogen? Well, it quickly had morphed into 5 days, right? Now, it's just wear your mask and be really really careful (not that I've read or followed anything the CDC has had to say in quite some time)?
#213
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: California
Posts: 229
You mean, LAX? LOL
Agreed. At this point, pragmatism and the bottom line will determine the duration of these measures. If I recall, initially the CDC guided to 10-day isolation for the deadly Omi pathogen? Well, it quickly had morphed into 5 days, right? Now, it's just wear your mask and be really really careful (not that I've read or followed anything the CDC has had to say in quite some time)?
Agreed. At this point, pragmatism and the bottom line will determine the duration of these measures. If I recall, initially the CDC guided to 10-day isolation for the deadly Omi pathogen? Well, it quickly had morphed into 5 days, right? Now, it's just wear your mask and be really really careful (not that I've read or followed anything the CDC has had to say in quite some time)?
#214
Join Date: Aug 2017
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Having traveled out of LGA this week, with the supposed NY state "mandate", no enforcements (as expected), mask wearings around 50/50, with some areas of the airport higher in masking and other areas higher in no masking.
Got to chat with a few pilots on an airside bus from C to D, and they were estastic with mask rules no longer in place
Great to be back after two long years!
I was in SF last month, and some lady took a picture of me as she was exiting the train. She came from all the way from the other side of the car, and we were the only two in the same car until she exited. I hope she took satisfactions in reporting me.
Got to chat with a few pilots on an airside bus from C to D, and they were estastic with mask rules no longer in place
Great to be back after two long years!
I was in SF last month, and some lady took a picture of me as she was exiting the train. She came from all the way from the other side of the car, and we were the only two in the same car until she exited. I hope she took satisfactions in reporting me.
#216
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#217
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,496
I thought the vaccines worked

#218
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: California
Posts: 229
Having traveled out of LGA this week, with the supposed NY state "mandate", no enforcements (as expected), mask wearings around 50/50, with some areas of the airport higher in masking and other areas higher in no masking.
Got to chat with a few pilots on an airside bus from C to D, and they were estastic with mask rules no longer in place
Great to be back after two long years!
I was in SF last month, and some lady took a picture of me as she was exiting the train. She came from all the way from the other side of the car, and we were the only two in the same car until she exited. I hope she took satisfactions in reporting me.
Got to chat with a few pilots on an airside bus from C to D, and they were estastic with mask rules no longer in place
Great to be back after two long years!
I was in SF last month, and some lady took a picture of me as she was exiting the train. She came from all the way from the other side of the car, and we were the only two in the same car until she exited. I hope she took satisfactions in reporting me.
#219
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I'm convinced that the extreme ends on the mask debate are complete loons. The self-appointed hall monitors calling out and reporting anyone whose not strapped into mask. The delusional freedom fighters challenging people who are wearing masks and calling them sheep.
In the absence of a specific rule I wear a mask when it suits me. It's my face and I can do what I want with it. If you don't like it keep your thoughts to yourself.
In the absence of a specific rule I wear a mask when it suits me. It's my face and I can do what I want with it. If you don't like it keep your thoughts to yourself.

#220
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#221
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Cramerton, NC, USA
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Until it is confirmed "gone" I will have to mask
My wife has MS and her medication puts her in the high risk category. I get that everyone thinks it is "gone" or "over" but it is not and despite us being boostered already twice, and us having successfully avoided getting sick throughout the pandemic to date, we just can't afford the risk.
I am less concerned on the plane, but am very concerned in crowded spaces (airports, public transport, indoor venues) and will continue to mask up on flights and all other places where I simply can't know if someone could infect me.
I am less concerned on the plane, but am very concerned in crowded spaces (airports, public transport, indoor venues) and will continue to mask up on flights and all other places where I simply can't know if someone could infect me.
#223
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2
I have traveled by air over 200,000 miles domestically since May of 2020. I had Covid in Feb of 2020 (confirmed by antibody test when it was available as tests were not available when I was sick)
Got vaccinated as soon as it was available in April 2021. My wife (fully vaccinated) got Delta variant after Thanksgiving 2021 .....so I decided to get boosted in mid December of 2021. I got Omicron January 12th of 2022 so guess what?? As much as we want to be proactive it doesn't really matter in terms of avoidance and precautions taken there is a lot of luck involved.
Masks can work to help to some degree from what I have read but only really the N95's (which are effective for only a couple hours) as cloth masks have been found to be less then 20% effective and surgical masks less then 50% effective.(all percentages are if the mask is worn correctly which doesn't really happen does it?) In my many hours of flying the last two years I would say that less then 10% of people wore N95's, 20% wore surgical, and the rest wore cloth mask which was the majority, meaning protection by wearing a mask is not great unless everyone had a N95 worn correctly and changed it every couple hours.(didn't happen)
So getting down to basics you are overall very limited in your overall protection from other people wearing masks in the airport or on a plane. I have to say I am ecstatic not to have to wear a mask on my first flight since this ruling occurred! .Everyone can get nearly the same protection wearing there own N95 masks as having the majority of flyers wearing a cloth mask next to them.
Got vaccinated as soon as it was available in April 2021. My wife (fully vaccinated) got Delta variant after Thanksgiving 2021 .....so I decided to get boosted in mid December of 2021. I got Omicron January 12th of 2022 so guess what?? As much as we want to be proactive it doesn't really matter in terms of avoidance and precautions taken there is a lot of luck involved.
Masks can work to help to some degree from what I have read but only really the N95's (which are effective for only a couple hours) as cloth masks have been found to be less then 20% effective and surgical masks less then 50% effective.(all percentages are if the mask is worn correctly which doesn't really happen does it?) In my many hours of flying the last two years I would say that less then 10% of people wore N95's, 20% wore surgical, and the rest wore cloth mask which was the majority, meaning protection by wearing a mask is not great unless everyone had a N95 worn correctly and changed it every couple hours.(didn't happen)
So getting down to basics you are overall very limited in your overall protection from other people wearing masks in the airport or on a plane. I have to say I am ecstatic not to have to wear a mask on my first flight since this ruling occurred! .Everyone can get nearly the same protection wearing there own N95 masks as having the majority of flyers wearing a cloth mask next to them.
#224
Join Date: Nov 2018
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Posts: 125
So I just read an article recently with Fauci saying that we are pretty much out of the pandemic phase. If our top medical guy is saying that, how much of a case does the administration and the CDC have for keeping the mask mandate? (and testing while we’re at it?)
#225
Join Date: Dec 2009
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On that note has anyone heard of anything at all since the announcement of the admin appealing it? It honestly seems more and more likely that the CDC will come out and say something along the lines of hospitalizations haven't increased much blah blah blah 2 weeks did the trick so we will let the mandate expire. In that case the ruling is moot so let's just vacate the ruling so the CDC can try to bring them back in the future. At the airport I see less and less wearing masks as the days go on. Some places it's only a small handful of people where somewhere like Seattle it's still only maybe 30-40% depending on the day. Highly doubt you can bring something like that back barring an absolute catastrophe for the vaccinated.