France - Entry Requirements
Dec 3, 2021, 4:44 pm
#61
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Attention les tests auto-administrés, dont les résultats ne sont pas certifiés par un laboratoire (ex : tests fournis gratuitement par le NHS), ne sont pas autorisés pour voyager. Le NHS indique qu’il n’effectuera aucun test pour voyager. Il faut donc recourir aux structures privées proposant un service similaire. Il n’existe pas de test spécifique lié ŕ la nouvelle variante qui a été identifiée.
And in English: https://uk.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-r...d-the-UK-28918
Last edited by SarahWest; Dec 3, 2021 at 4:50 pm Reason: Found document en Anglais 🙂
Dec 3, 2021, 5:26 pm
#62
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Computer says 'no';Source: https://uk.ambafrance.org/Covid-19-C...vers-la-France
And in English: https://uk.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-r...d-the-UK-28918
And in English: https://uk.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-r...d-the-UK-28918
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Dec 3, 2021, 5:54 pm
#63
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No, they just stopped issuing the French certificate online, leaving the pharmacy as the only option in France. It isn't that previously issued certificates from the website application are no longer valid, just a switch in methodology for obtaining a French EU DCC certificate (QR code). In fact they continued approving certificates for people who submitted online applications before the website was shut down. The TAC app isn't a "self-conversion", you have to already have a valid EU DCC compliant QR code certificate for the TAC app to capture it, whether from the prior French website, French pharmacy, some other EU compliant country, etc. The TAC app isn't an EU DCC in itself, it captures EU DCC QR codes.
Dec 3, 2021, 6:42 pm
#64
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I have a flight to Seychelles via CDG this coming Wednesday and got the following text message and email from Air France:
Air France AF 0009 on 08/12/2021: New measures for entry into France as from 04 December for all customers (vaccinated or not): Present a negative RT-PCR OR antigenic test performed 48h before your flight. Thank you for your understanding.
We should disregard the message to my understanding after reading the previous posts , because we are in transit and in CDGs case when you have a connection flight you dont technically enter the country?
Air France AF 0009 on 08/12/2021: New measures for entry into France as from 04 December for all customers (vaccinated or not): Present a negative RT-PCR OR antigenic test performed 48h before your flight. Thank you for your understanding.
We should disregard the message to my understanding after reading the previous posts , because we are in transit and in CDGs case when you have a connection flight you dont technically enter the country?
Dec 3, 2021, 6:47 pm
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following. I havent been able to find anything concrete either. Im going to be flying in from Lapland on an Australian passport so am trying to work out if Santas village has a testing station if I want to play it safe. I will have been in the EU for only 4 days after flying in from Singapore but havent seen anything that says I need to have been in the EU for x number of days to be exempt.
Yes, I think it's any nationality as long as you can prove the vaccination status if asked. A French Passe Sanitaire would be the obvious thing to use if you have it. Hopefully those checking will be familiar with non-EU vaccination certificates as well. Not sure how fussy they will be about which vaccines have been used. Remember they are also adding new "booster" requirements for over 65 in mid-Dec that might complicate things.
EDIT: A quick read of the previous Article 2-2 notes on what counts suggests it is quite broad, not mentioning any specific form of certificate and also allowing proof of previous infection (over 11 days but less than 6 months old).
EDIT: A quick read of the previous Article 2-2 notes on what counts suggests it is quite broad, not mentioning any specific form of certificate and also allowing proof of previous infection (over 11 days but less than 6 months old).
Dec 3, 2021, 11:11 pm
#66
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Checked in at LHR T5 going to France, no worries. She said we're vaccinated so don't need a test ....... which is clearly wrong. She checked her system, says the same. Looks like not all systems are aligned so might be lots of people turned away at the border, unless they have it sorted by boarding time and check again?
Dec 3, 2021, 11:37 pm
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Checked in at LHR T5 going to France, no worries. She said we're vaccinated so don't need a test ....... which is clearly wrong. She checked her system, says the same. Looks like not all systems are aligned so might be lots of people turned away at the border, unless they have it sorted by boarding time and check again?
Dec 3, 2021, 11:49 pm
#68
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Update from the French gov't website (note that AF.com is still saying that they're thinking about it):
Désormais, toute personne entrant sur le territoire français doit présenter un test PCR ou antigénique négatif de moins de 24h ou 48h en fonction du pays de provenance. Seule exception, les personnes présentant un schéma vaccinal complet n’ont pas ŕ présenter de test, lorsqu'elles arrivent d'un État membre de l'Union européenne, d'Andorre, d'Islande, du Liechtenstein, de Monaco, de la Norvčge, de Saint-Marin, du Saint-Sičge ou de la Suisse.
Par ailleurs, pour faire face ŕ la propagation du variant Omicron la classification des pays, définie sur la base des indicateurs sanitaires a évolué, avec l'ajout d'une classification pays "rouge écarlate" :
https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...t-et-de-voyage
Edit to add... there's an English version at the bottom: https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...ational-travel
Covid-19 : changement des rčgles de déplacement et de voyages depuis et vers l'étranger ŕ compter du 4 décembre
Afin de lutter contre la circulation épidémique liée ŕ la Covid-19, de nouvelles rčgles de déplacements et de voyages entrent en vigueur ŕ partir du 4 décembre 2021.Désormais, toute personne entrant sur le territoire français doit présenter un test PCR ou antigénique négatif de moins de 24h ou 48h en fonction du pays de provenance. Seule exception, les personnes présentant un schéma vaccinal complet n’ont pas ŕ présenter de test, lorsqu'elles arrivent d'un État membre de l'Union européenne, d'Andorre, d'Islande, du Liechtenstein, de Monaco, de la Norvčge, de Saint-Marin, du Saint-Sičge ou de la Suisse.
Par ailleurs, pour faire face ŕ la propagation du variant Omicron la classification des pays, définie sur la base des indicateurs sanitaires a évolué, avec l'ajout d'une classification pays "rouge écarlate" :
- Pays Ť verts ť : pas de circulation active du virus.
- Pays Ť orange ť : circulation active du virus dans des proportions maîtrisées.
- Pays Ť rouges ť : circulation active du virus, présence de variants préoccupants.
- Pays "rouge écarlate" : circulation particuličrement active du virus et/ou découverte d’un variant susceptible de présenter un risque de transmissibilité accrue ou d’échappement immunitaire.
Edit to add... there's an English version at the bottom: https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...ational-travel
“Green list”countries and territories: Countries or territories where no active circulation of the virus is observed and no variant of concern is identified. These are the countries in the European area, plus Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Canada, Hong Kong, Japan, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, New Zealand, Qatar, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Taiwan, Union of the Comoros, United Arab Emirates, Uruguay and Vanuatu.
“Amber list”countries: Countries where active circulation of the virus is observed in controlled proportions, without spread of any variants of concern. These are all countries not included in the “green” and “red” list countries.
“Red list”countries: Countries where active circulation of the virus is observed with the presence of variants of concern. These include the following countries: Afghanistan, Belarus, Brazil, Costa - Rica, Cuba, Georgia, Moldavia, Montenegro, Pakistan, Russia, Serbia, Suriname, Turkey, Ukraine.
“Scarlet list” countries: Countries where there is very active circulation of the virus and discovery of a variant that may pose a risk of increased transmissibility or immune escape. These include the following countries: South Africa, Lesotho, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Namibia, Eswatini, Malawi, Zambia and Mauritius.
The measures applied to vaccinated adults are extended under the same conditions to their accompanying minors, whether vaccinated or not.
Amber countries rules:
If already vaccinated, you shall provide evidence of your vaccination status, a sworn statement certifying the absence of COVID-19 symptoms and of any contact with a confirmed case of COVID-19, as well as results of a virological (PCR) or antigen screening test taken less than 48 hours prior to departure that did not detect any COVID-19 contamination, in order to enter Metropolitan France.
If unvaccinated, you must present the transport company and the border authorities with results of a virological (PCR) or antigen biological screening test taken less than 48 hours prior to departure that did not detect any COVID-19 contamination, in order to enter Metropolitan France.
If travelling from the United Kingdom and unvaccinated, you must present a negative PCR or antigen test taken less than 24 hours prior to departure. The departure of the first flight is considered in case of connecting flight(s). Children under 12 years of age are exempt from testing.
“Amber list”countries: Countries where active circulation of the virus is observed in controlled proportions, without spread of any variants of concern. These are all countries not included in the “green” and “red” list countries.
“Red list”countries: Countries where active circulation of the virus is observed with the presence of variants of concern. These include the following countries: Afghanistan, Belarus, Brazil, Costa - Rica, Cuba, Georgia, Moldavia, Montenegro, Pakistan, Russia, Serbia, Suriname, Turkey, Ukraine.
“Scarlet list” countries: Countries where there is very active circulation of the virus and discovery of a variant that may pose a risk of increased transmissibility or immune escape. These include the following countries: South Africa, Lesotho, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Namibia, Eswatini, Malawi, Zambia and Mauritius.
The measures applied to vaccinated adults are extended under the same conditions to their accompanying minors, whether vaccinated or not.
Amber countries rules:
If already vaccinated, you shall provide evidence of your vaccination status, a sworn statement certifying the absence of COVID-19 symptoms and of any contact with a confirmed case of COVID-19, as well as results of a virological (PCR) or antigen screening test taken less than 48 hours prior to departure that did not detect any COVID-19 contamination, in order to enter Metropolitan France.
If unvaccinated, you must present the transport company and the border authorities with results of a virological (PCR) or antigen biological screening test taken less than 48 hours prior to departure that did not detect any COVID-19 contamination, in order to enter Metropolitan France.
If travelling from the United Kingdom and unvaccinated, you must present a negative PCR or antigen test taken less than 24 hours prior to departure. The departure of the first flight is considered in case of connecting flight(s). Children under 12 years of age are exempt from testing.
Dec 3, 2021, 11:54 pm
#69
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Update from the French gov't website (note that AF.com is still saying that they're thinking about it):
https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...t-et-de-voyage
Edit to add... there's an English version at the bottom: https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...ational-travel
https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...t-et-de-voyage
Edit to add... there's an English version at the bottom: https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...ational-travel
I went to the ticketing desk in the first lounge, said they might want to go and check and she basically told me to f*** off. Nice. First class service indeed. Went and spoke to a lady at reception at the First lounge and she thanked me profusely and was going to follow up with their internal COVID line, so hopefully they'll check the docs etc. at boarding. Perhaps France is making an allowance for morning flights today given the late notice? Anyway..... just trying to be helpful to avoid them having to turn around most of the plane of people.
Yet strangely on https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...l-travel#from4 it says:
2.1. Mobility rules and regulations
If you are already vaccinated, no restrictions shall apply when entering metropolitan France.
Dec 3, 2021, 11:57 pm
#70
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Yes, exactly.
I went to the ticketing desk in the first lounge, said they might want to go and check and she basically told me to f*** off. Nice. First class service indeed. Went and spoke to a lady at reception at the First lounge and she thanked me profusely and was going to follow up with their internal COVID line, so hopefully they'll check the docs etc. at boarding. Perhaps France is making an allowance for morning flights today given the late notice? Anyway..... just trying to be helpful to avoid them having to turn around most of the plane of people.
I went to the ticketing desk in the first lounge, said they might want to go and check and she basically told me to f*** off. Nice. First class service indeed. Went and spoke to a lady at reception at the First lounge and she thanked me profusely and was going to follow up with their internal COVID line, so hopefully they'll check the docs etc. at boarding. Perhaps France is making an allowance for morning flights today given the late notice? Anyway..... just trying to be helpful to avoid them having to turn around most of the plane of people.
Dec 3, 2021, 11:59 pm
#71
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Edit: but it's also no excuse for being rude, I was just trying to help them. Fortunately the lady on reception was much more thankful.
Dec 4, 2021, 1:07 am
#72
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Have just boarded, they said no test is required. Will be interesting to see what happens when the flight lands.
Dec 4, 2021, 2:26 am
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Yes, exactly.
Yet strangely on https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...l-travel#from4 it says:
Yet strangely on https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...l-travel#from4 it says:
2.1. Mobility rules and regulations
If you are already vaccinated, no restrictions shall apply when entering metropolitan France.2.2. Health control measures
If already vaccinated, you shall provide evidence of your vaccination status...as well as results of a ... test taken less than 48 hours prior to departure ...Last edited by EsherFlyer; Dec 4, 2021 at 3:21 am
Dec 4, 2021, 2:45 am
#74
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Yet strangely on https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...l-travel#from4....
It says "If travelling from the United Kingdom and unvaccinated, you must present a negative PCR or antigen test taken less than 24 hours prior to departure. The departure of the first flight is considered in case of connecting flight(s). Children under 12 years of age are exempt from testing."
The bolded part would be useful for US, etc travellers if it was a separate sentence, but as written could be interpreted as only applying if connecting via UK, and unvaccinated. The French version also has the same structure.
But since the bit about "under 12" is structured the same way and is know to be valid across all groups I think it's reasonable to assume they meant to have the connection and age limit rules positioned to apply to all passengers: vaccinated or not, from UK or not.
EDIT: Going back to read the Red and Scarlet rules they are a bit more liberal in applying that connection phrase to multiple scenarios, so pretty safe to apply it to Orange as well IMHO.
Last edited by EsherFlyer; Dec 4, 2021 at 2:55 am
Dec 4, 2021, 2:48 am
#75
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I convinced myself rather late yesterday that things like Boots 1h antigen would be OK, and easier to manage time criticality with. But it felt too late to suggest it to you without potentially causing increased anxiety. Did you go PCR or antigen in the end?