France - Entry Requirements
Dec 3, 2021, 1:02 pm
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The rules are only for entry, so if staying airside they won't apply. I don't think they'll release guidance for situations that don't need any.
If it's a 24h transit leaving airport then you enter France, and rules would apply.
EDIT: There are notes under the red and orange "allowed reasons" of the guide linked above saying you can travel to France and stay in the airport international zone while waiting for transit.
If it's a 24h transit leaving airport then you enter France, and rules would apply.
EDIT: There are notes under the red and orange "allowed reasons" of the guide linked above saying you can travel to France and stay in the airport international zone while waiting for transit.
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Dec 3, 2021, 1:04 pm
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Not sure how you make that connection. We UK isn't a part of the EU freedom of movement arrangements. That's different to the DCC thing.
Dec 3, 2021, 1:20 pm
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Dec 3, 2021, 1:22 pm
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Because some posters are referring to having a French vaccination certificate, on the basis they got issued one using their US CDC jabs. So on that basis, they're not true EU issued vax certs either, so therefore not valid for the exemption.
Dec 3, 2021, 1:27 pm
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Dec 3, 2021, 1:46 pm
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Unvaccinated people entering France from another EU member country will need to have a negative Covid test performed in the 24 hours before their trip. Fully vaccinated people with a French or EU health pass will not require a test.
For entry to France from another EU member country:
- Unvaccinated people will need to have a negative Covid test performed in the 24 hours before their trip.
- Fully vaccinated people with a French or EU health pass will not require a test.
But not for arrival to France from outside EU, which was the earlier bit of the embassy text: "All people age 12 and over entering France from outside the European Union will require a negative COVID test performed within 48 hours before departure, regardless of their vaccination status"
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Dec 3, 2021, 1:48 pm
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Dec 3, 2021, 2:01 pm
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Dec 3, 2021, 2:31 pm
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I think there's confusion from not joining up words across two sentences (and remember they were written by US embassy to summarise):
Should be read as:
So if you're a UK or US citizen already in the EU with a Pass Sanitaire and crossing the border to France that will be good enough.
But not for arrival to France from outside EU, which was the earlier bit of the embassy text: "All people age 12 and over entering France from outside the European Union will require a negative COVID test performed within 48 hours before departure, regardless of their vaccination status"
Should be read as:
So if you're a UK or US citizen already in the EU with a Pass Sanitaire and crossing the border to France that will be good enough.
But not for arrival to France from outside EU, which was the earlier bit of the embassy text: "All people age 12 and over entering France from outside the European Union will require a negative COVID test performed within 48 hours before departure, regardless of their vaccination status"
Edit-found this on French government site:
- From December 4, any person aged 12 and over entering French territory must present a negative PCR or antigen test of less than 24 or 48 hours depending on the country of origin. The only exception is that people with a complete vaccination schedule do not have to take a test when they arrive from a Member State of the European Union, Andorra, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norway, San Marino, the Holy See or Switzerland.
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Dec 3, 2021, 2:51 pm
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seems to be getting even more complicated. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it your interpretation that a US citizen already in a EU country needs a French or EU health pass to avoid a negative test to enter France? Most articles just say travelers arriving from another EU country to France do not need to show negative test if vaccinated. So still unclear if it's travelers from another EU country regardless of nationality, or is it just EU member citizens who do not have to test(makes more sense)
Edit-found this on French government site:
Edit-found this on French government site:
- From December 4, any person aged 12 and over entering French territory must present a negative PCR or antigen test of less than 24 or 48 hours depending on the country of origin. The only exception is that people with a complete vaccination schedule do not have to take a test when they arrive from a Member State of the European Union, Andorra, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norway, San Marino, the Holy See or Switzerland.
EDIT: A quick read of the previous Article 2-2 notes on what counts suggests it is quite broad, not mentioning any specific form of certificate and also allowing proof of previous infection (over 11 days but less than 6 months old).
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Dec 3, 2021, 3:29 pm
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Dec 3, 2021, 3:38 pm
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I'd deleted the TousAntiCovid app after my last visit to France. I thought I'd read that converting overseas certificates now needed a visit to a French pharmacy, so wouldn't be able to "self-convert" using the app. However I was just able to reinstall and activate it by scanning my UK NHS QR code from PC screen. I'm assuming that's because the UK is in the 25 counties that have joined the EU DCC programme (https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-...certificate_en), so unlikely to work for US, etc certificates.
Dec 3, 2021, 3:53 pm
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Yes, I think it's any nationality as long as you can prove the vaccination status if asked. A French Passe Sanitaire would be the obvious thing to use if you have it. Hopefully those checking will be familiar with non-EU vaccination certificates as well. Not sure how fussy they will be about which vaccines have been used. Remember they are also adding new "booster" requirements for over 65 in mid-Dec that might complicate things.
EDIT: A quick read of the previous Article 2-2 notes on what counts suggests it is quite broad, not mentioning any specific form of certificate and also allowing proof of previous infection (over 11 days but less than 6 months old).
EDIT: A quick read of the previous Article 2-2 notes on what counts suggests it is quite broad, not mentioning any specific form of certificate and also allowing proof of previous infection (over 11 days but less than 6 months old).
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Dec 3, 2021, 4:14 pm
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EDIT: After a bit more reading it seems that there isn't an equivalent in Spain since the use of apps, etc for access to various facilities is a lot more piecemeal.
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