France - Entry Requirements
Dec 18, 2021, 4:59 pm
#211
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Emphasis mine but I think you mean EU nationals here? or British nationals who are close family members of a French or EU national, or British nationals who are French residents?
Outside of those cases, British nationals are not allowed to fly into France unless they meet the transit or "a few others" exceptions that you mention (and are notably not allowed to fly to France for tourism or non-urgent business reasons).
Outside of those cases, British nationals are not allowed to fly into France unless they meet the transit or "a few others" exceptions that you mention (and are notably not allowed to fly to France for tourism or non-urgent business reasons).
Different sources might be contradicting, but I was referring to the official text posted by BP908 in French and dated 16 December (posted 17th):
https://www.gouvernement.fr/sites/de...16.12.2021.pdf
The same text now appears in English:
https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/co...united-kingdom
Of course, this applies to vaccinated people.
It could be that I misunderstand the paragraph on British nationals. It could be that France Diplomacy and the Interior ministry have different interpretations.
Last edited by brunos; Dec 18, 2021 at 5:47 pm
Dec 18, 2021, 5:05 pm
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I think you are missing the bit that says: "enjoying the provisions of the Agreement on the withdrawal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union and the European Atomic Energy Community." This is specifically referring to those British nationals who settled in France before the Brexit date and are benefitting from the right to remain in the country as part of the withdrawal agreement, and not to British nationals in general (in other words, it is another variation on residence).
Dec 19, 2021, 2:56 am
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I think you are missing the bit that says: "enjoying the provisions of the Agreement on the withdrawal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union and the European Atomic Energy Community." This is specifically referring to those British nationals who settled in France before the Brexit date and are benefitting from the right to remain in the country as part of the withdrawal agreement, and not to British nationals in general (in other words, it is another variation on residence).
Dec 19, 2021, 6:57 am
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Indeed. The British nationals concerned are either resident in the EU or frontier workers otherwise they would not qualify under the Withdrawal Agreement. The drafting is somewhat weird, to be honest in that it includes Brits covered by the Withdrawal Agreement who reside in another EU Member State without the same restrictions/caveats as other EU nationals or residents but we are still talking about a very small minority of British nationals.
Dec 19, 2021, 8:28 am
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You are correct in principal but wrong in actuality - Schengen or not everyone goes to border control and everyone has to show their vaccination pass. France has been checking all arrivals by air for months - indeed years.
Dec 19, 2021, 9:11 am
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Dec 19, 2021, 10:18 am
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The French rules use an at times confusing 3 layer model,. It can be too easy to read one block and thing they are "OR" rather than "AND".From Certificate of international travel / L'actu du Ministère / Actualités - Ministère de l'Intérieur (interieur.gouv.fr):
So Schengen covers some but not all requirements.
... three different regulations which all apply
- The mobility rules;
- The health control measures.
- The usual rules govern the right to stay
Last edited by EsherFlyer; Dec 19, 2021 at 10:27 am
Dec 19, 2021, 10:46 am
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For those looking to streamline their journey departing France to UK, I was asked for my "Compelling Reason" departure form today. I had it ready as I'd heard that others without it were being asked to fill one in before proceeding.
It's on Certificate of international travel / L'actu du Ministère / Actualités - Ministère de l'Intérieur (interieur.gouv.fr) just below the coloured map in the UK tab (5th one) under "You wish to leave Metropolitan France" . For most FTers it'll be "Foreign resident returning home", which if you happen to be given the French version to fill in means ticking the first two boxes - "I have a reason" "+ "Foreign resident"
It's on Certificate of international travel / L'actu du Ministère / Actualités - Ministère de l'Intérieur (interieur.gouv.fr) just below the coloured map in the UK tab (5th one) under "You wish to leave Metropolitan France" . For most FTers it'll be "Foreign resident returning home", which if you happen to be given the French version to fill in means ticking the first two boxes - "I have a reason" "+ "Foreign resident"
Last edited by EsherFlyer; Dec 19, 2021 at 10:54 am
Dec 19, 2021, 10:58 am
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The intro blurb on the new "Compelling Reasons" form for UK says is applies where transit in another country has been under 14 days.
Dec 19, 2021, 11:57 am
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For those looking to streamline their journey departing France to UK, I was asked for my "Compelling Reason" departure form today. I had it ready as I'd heard that others without it were being asked to fill one in before proceeding.
It's on Certificate of international travel / L'actu du Ministère / Actualités - Ministère de l'Intérieur (interieur.gouv.fr) just below the coloured map in the UK tab (5th one) under "You wish to leave Metropolitan France" . For most FTers it'll be "Foreign resident returning home", which if you happen to be given the French version to fill in means ticking the first two boxes - "I have a reason" "+ "Foreign resident"
It's on Certificate of international travel / L'actu du Ministère / Actualités - Ministère de l'Intérieur (interieur.gouv.fr) just below the coloured map in the UK tab (5th one) under "You wish to leave Metropolitan France" . For most FTers it'll be "Foreign resident returning home", which if you happen to be given the French version to fill in means ticking the first two boxes - "I have a reason" "+ "Foreign resident"
The French love a form or two....
Dec 19, 2021, 12:34 pm
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Dec 19, 2021, 12:58 pm
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For those looking to streamline their journey departing France to UK, I was asked for my "Compelling Reason" departure form today. I had it ready as I'd heard that others without it were being asked to fill one in before proceeding.
It's on Certificate of international travel / L'actu du Ministère / Actualités - Ministère de l'Intérieur (interieur.gouv.fr) just below the coloured map in the UK tab (5th one) under "You wish to leave Metropolitan France" . For most FTers it'll be "Foreign resident returning home", which if you happen to be given the French version to fill in means ticking the first two boxes - "I have a reason" "+ "Foreign resident"
It's on Certificate of international travel / L'actu du Ministère / Actualités - Ministère de l'Intérieur (interieur.gouv.fr) just below the coloured map in the UK tab (5th one) under "You wish to leave Metropolitan France" . For most FTers it'll be "Foreign resident returning home", which if you happen to be given the French version to fill in means ticking the first two boxes - "I have a reason" "+ "Foreign resident"
Dec 19, 2021, 2:24 pm
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It applies to travellers arriving by a direct flight or after a transit of less than 14 days in another country.
EDIT: Looking back via Google at previous attestations for Orange, Red, etc in May the 14-day limit is in there as well, so not a UK special. I can't trace that back to any FR COVID legislation, but it could come from some historic act that is incorporated into current law - for example 1918 flu management.
Last edited by EsherFlyer; Dec 19, 2021 at 3:41 pm
Dec 19, 2021, 3:36 pm
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I think this is a bit too tangential to go in this thread, but might be relevant to some readers: France-UK travel: potential warning for "settled" EU citizens.
Last edited by EsherFlyer; Dec 19, 2021 at 4:36 pm
Dec 19, 2021, 8:47 pm
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Sorry if this has been asked already.
I am transitting in CDG overnight on the 29th (less than 24 hours).
What is an international airport zone? Can I stay in an airport hotel or not?
I am transitting in CDG overnight on the 29th (less than 24 hours).
What is an international airport zone? Can I stay in an airport hotel or not?