U.K. Government response to the Omicron variant
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Thanks for the kind words, I'm not setting myself up as a media mogul in this space, I know my limitations. I must admit I do wonder about some of the sensationalism in this space - yes it's a wretched respiratory viral disease with some interesting quirks to it, but from an immunity and public health perspective is somewhat less interesting than influenza. So I'm careful not to feed the beast and try to stick to a reasonably moderate tone, but I think we are all capable of doing that. We just need to be a bit cautious until we know the facts, and luckily they should be forthcoming fairly quickly.
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Great. There goes our planned trip to London. Haven‘t been in over 1.5 years. This is mental.
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Vaccines were supposed to be our way out of pre-travel testing madness, so yeah, lets not move the goalposts every time a variant comes out. Otherwise you'll be sitting around in 2030 doing pretravel full health panel tests for seven different viruses. If people are vaccinated (which most are), there is no need to be super concerned about having covid.
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That will require (yet another) amendment to the Statutory Instrument. One came out today to ensure Angola, Malawi, Mozambique and Zambia are in scope for Red listing tomorrow, but no signs yet of the more substantive change needed for this. What they can do is give people a few days notice so they can get PCRs ordered, but allow NHS PCRs for anyone caught in the shorter time frame. But suffice to say that the digital ink will not be dry on the SI before the details get updated in either this thread or the UK Arrivals thread, both in the Coronavirus and travel forum.
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If one were sitting on the fence about getting vaccinated, wouldn't you wait a couple of weeks to see if the current vaccines work for Omnicron first?
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Do not wait. Get vaccinated now.
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Someone still sitting on the fence is presumably not convinced by science, so why would waiting a couple of weeks for more scientific evidence convince them? I'd expect that once that evidence arose they'd find some new conspiracy theory, etc to reassure themselves that the best thing is to delay further. Luckily for them others are getting vaccinated so they might just benefit from the vaccine programme anyway.
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Someone still sitting on the fence is presumably not convinced by science, so why would waiting a couple of weeks for more scientific evidence convince them? I'd expect that once that evidence arose they'd find some new conspiracy theory, etc to reassure themselves that the best thing is to delay further. Luckily for them others are getting vaccinated so they might just benefit from the vaccine programme anyway.
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That would indeed be a good thing. The question / reply above though was not in relation to them responding to "this news" if that means the new variant, but about them still continuing to wait for some "future news" about vaccine efficacy. I'm really not sure what news might convince them, but as you say maybe there will be some moment of realisation. I suspect that offering them a box of chocolates is more likely to sway them than scientific evidence though.
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Why not book an arrivals test at Heathrow? As of late yesterday there were plenty of slots and the results are available by 10pm the following day thereby limiting your 'isolation'. I arrive a few days after you and had no problem reserving a slot. Now just hope the e-gates are open!
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Sorry, I'm confused. Is it just a PCR required by day 2 or is it PCR required by day 2 AND quarantine until you have the negative results from that test? Please assume that the arrival is from the U.S. Thanks!
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Self isolate from arrival, so the sooner the day two test is taken and negative the quicker you can release yourself
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Given the 10% infected on the Dutch flights yesterday, is it not insanity to let people pour into the U.K. and only then get tested, rather than pre arrival? I’ve just back from holiday and one of my group is positive on day 2, rather than finding out before travelling home. He actually tested positive on day 0