LoungeLizardHugo

I am a US citizen. Do homework friend.

Start with TIMATIC and Norwegian government website.

Not being ugly, motivating you to "learn to fish".

Come back and tell us what you find...

PS- helpful clue, research EU Covid Cert app.

GUWonder

https://no.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/

You could try to get the French to take your CDC card remotely to generate a Covid pass for use with the TousAntiCovid app.

Norway is in that way open to vaccinated Americans and Brits.

vanillabean

I might go as far as 1/1000. A store told me the other day they had taken the glass barrier just the day before. It’s like a bad cold gone and forgotten. It’s not until you get together with people you know well that a sense of some cracks in the public full-scale suppression is present.

VRFast

That was my next step since it seems to be feasible from what you're saying. I have no plans to go this year, but next year, yes indeed. Last time I looked a month or two ago, very stringent rules, basically a no for Americans, even when trying to enter via Sweden and Denmark.

gnaget

That's correct. The studies cited by the other person are meaningless propaganda for masks. They look at droplets and use modelling, which you can skew as you like. The issue is aerosols and 97% of droplets in aerosols emitted by humans are smaller than 1 micron. In a dry, cold climate without wind (e.g. indoors) you can actually pick up the aerosols some time after they were emitted into space.

There is also the theory that SARSCOV-2 has displaced the influenza viruses by being more virulent. This competition between respiratory viruses exists. There ties into the theory that influenza displaced coronaviruses in 1918 starting with H1N1, and that coronaviruses dominated before in the 19th century. This ties into the "Russian flu" of 1890 actually being the OC43 coronavirus that jumped from a bovine source (proposed as a result of genomic tracing by researchers at KU Leuven in 2006), and as a novel virus had similar effect, killing lots of old, frail people, as the current "endemic", as I prefer to call it. The four common cold coronaviruses are believed to be relatively uncommon (10%) causes of common colds, but nobody quite knows because it has not been a topic of interest. They generally cause "bad" colds. In 2003, OC43 killed 8% of the residents of a nursing home in Vancouver and there was a panic because the authorities first that it was SARS-1 until they did testing to identify the virus.

gnaget

Your best plan is to go via Denmark because the nordic countries are open to each other, so there should be no controls into NO once you make into DK. Until recently, haven't check for about 3 weeks, an American should be able to enter DK. Also if you fly SAS lounghaul then it is the most common way to enter the region via CPH. It varies from year to year, but OSL often does not have a direct flight on SAS from EWR.

the810

Are you sure this is the case? Sweden indeed has a policy that anyone arriving from Nordic countries is free to enter under normal rules but I believe they are the only one and the rest applies their covid policy even for Nordic arrivals.
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LoungeLizardHugo

I am an American in (rainy) Oslo via CPH, right now, as I type. Do your homework, read the respective countries government websites and read carefully through the multitude of exceptions. Use IATA/TIMATIC. Things change, confirm current rules.

JBJ2435

I believe that you posted in another thread that you booked a separate flight from CPH-OSL which is the loophole to avoiding quarantine from your SFO-CPH flight to OSL. Don't want other readers to think this was allowed...

LoungeLizardHugo

Not sure how your post was meant, hard to tell when written and not heard. But the way I read it it implies what I did was wrong in some form or fashion.

I booked a flight from USA to Denmark. I then booked a separate side trip to Norway.

Let me clear- I followed the laws of Denmark and Norway to the letter. I exploited no "loophole". Everything I did was 100% legal and above-board. My documents were authentic and valid. My verbal disclosures were 100% honest and truthful. The door was open and I walked through it, nothing more, nothing less. What I did was absolutely "allowed" because I followed all laws and I did it.

I am under attack in a different thread for not conforming to what appears to me to be some unwritten dogma that must be followed on FT, so am in no mood to have my factual, honest and ethical behaviour called into question.

vanillabean

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It appears the perceived gap between letter and spirit is likely to narrow over time.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidni...o-open-border/

GUWonder

Yes.

“Loophole to avoiding quarantine” in which country? In Denmark, in Norway, or in both?

Norway has some kind of quarantine exemption in place that is tied to being recognized as “fully vaccinated”.

Denmark seems fine with “fully vaccinated” Americans running around town.

JBJ2435

I read yesterday that you had to have been coming from a green country or stayed there for 10 days prior to entering Norway to avoid quarantine, but can't seem to find it now (maybe on a us site?). The official Norway site reference the colors and indicates it makes a difference in rules, of which the US is not listed, and then no rules to go with them! But it does say that fully vaccinated do not need to quarantine, so all good. Apologies if I misunderstood.

Fredrik74

Fully vaccinated means vaccinated in the EU or UK. For the rest of the World see below, The countries included in the digital scheme are all on this side of the Atlantic.

https://www.udi.no/en/about-the-coro...en/#link-28938

GUWonder

“Fully vaccinated” covers more than just those indicated there. It also includes those vaccinated in other parts of the world — including the US — who manage to get one or more of the above-indicated countries to issue a vaccine certification on the basis that an EU/EEA country or other listed country chooses for itself in determining who is “fully vaccinated”.

By the way, Norway has all year allowed in contingents of vaccinated US military personnel (and often relatives/dependents), and generally they have only the CDC vaccination card as readily portable proof of vaccination.