Sep 15, 2021, 1:47 pm
Last edit by: NewbieRunner
New thread for discussing 1-day test requirements for travellers arriving in the US by air
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
- AstraZeneca
- BIBP/Sinopharm
- Covishield
- Janssen/J&J
- Moderna
- Pfizer-BioNTech
- Sinovac
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)
Jun 12, 2021, 2:36 pm
#961
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Sure but we can see that UK new case rates has gone up in the past few weeks
So beware, anyone planning travel, you may see the "Emergency Brake" provisions go up if things get out of hand.
That Delta variant is no doubt in most countries now. Question of how much it's going to spread. Full vaccination protects but even UK, which was ahead in vaccinations compared to the US and EU, are being hit.
So beware, anyone planning travel, you may see the "Emergency Brake" provisions go up if things get out of hand.
That Delta variant is no doubt in most countries now. Question of how much it's going to spread. Full vaccination protects but even UK, which was ahead in vaccinations compared to the US and EU, are being hit.
Jun 12, 2021, 2:54 pm
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several nations barring or restricting arrivals from India and nearby nations.
I think the answer is unquestionably yes, anything that threatens to start an exponential surge will be blocked.
Jun 12, 2021, 3:30 pm
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Daily Mail for what it's worth - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...kes-sense.html
- There are rumors the White House doesn't want to lift the ban on the UK without lifting it on every banned country
Jun 12, 2021, 4:52 pm
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Daily Mail for what it's worth - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...kes-sense.html
- There are rumors the White House doesn't want to lift the ban on the UK without lifting it on every banned country
Jun 12, 2021, 4:58 pm
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First UK has to start seeing decreasing cases.
Currently they're on the upswing.
Currently they're on the upswing.
Jun 12, 2021, 5:03 pm
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Very informative article. It looks like it will take them 1-2 months to figure things out, so the earliest U.S. re-opening will be August, but most likely earliest will be September.
Last edited by nk15; Jun 13, 2021 at 4:36 am
Jun 13, 2021, 4:16 am
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Delaying our opening? We are already open for travellers. Its just us who cant leave easily.
Jun 13, 2021, 6:43 am
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The EU already has a ban on arriving travelers from most non-Schengen countries. It’s just that more and more European countries as of late have jumped in on giving an exemption by accepting vaccinated visitors from OECD countries when the proof of vaccination meets the Schengen country’s standard for an exemption to a travel ban.
Absent Italy deciding to go full in on checking for intra-Schengen third country arrivals at Italian airports — something that a country can do — the external border is only as strong as its proverbial weakest link within the Schengen area when it comes to allowed travelers from beyond the Schengen area.
Absent Italy deciding to go full in on checking for intra-Schengen third country arrivals at Italian airports — something that a country can do — the external border is only as strong as its proverbial weakest link within the Schengen area when it comes to allowed travelers from beyond the Schengen area.
Jun 13, 2021, 7:24 am
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Jun 13, 2021, 12:23 pm
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Not sure how one can identify country of origin of people walking around, but I would offer that a) the efficacy of masks worn outdoors by individuals not congregating together has been pretty much shown to have no biological effect, and that b) the demographics of the classic American tourist (older, well educated) make it very likely that they are fully vaccinated, thus not being much of a threat to anyone. That said, if there are local rules requiring such, they should be followed.
Jun 13, 2021, 12:28 pm
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Not sure how one can identify country of origin of people walking around, but I would offer that a) the efficacy of masks worn outdoors by individuals not congregating together has been pretty much shown to have no biological effect, and that b) the demographics of the classic American tourist (older, well educated) make it very likely that they are fully vaccinated, thus not being much of a threat to anyone. That said, if there are local rules requiring such, they should be followed.
Jun 13, 2021, 12:38 pm
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And it is a real leap to postulate that these tourists are the classical wealthy older American tourists, whatever that means. There is no such thing as fully vaccinated. With the recommended dose(s) one is simply less likely to require hospitalization in the case of catching it. Whether these people can be a host is still out for debate.
Jun 13, 2021, 12:43 pm
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Not sure how one can identify country of origin of people walking around, but I would offer that a) the efficacy of masks worn outdoors by individuals not congregating together has been pretty much shown to have no biological effect, and that b) the demographics of the classic American tourist (older, well educated) make it very likely that they are fully vaccinated, thus not being much of a threat to anyone. That said, if there are local rules requiring such, they should be followed.
Since you have this privilege, and are not currently welcome, at least respect our(absurd) rules. Mandatory mask also outdoors.
Jun 13, 2021, 12:49 pm
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And it is a real leap to postulate that these tourists are the classical wealthy older American tourists, whatever that means. There is no such thing as fully vaccinated. With the recommended dose(s) one is simply less likely to require hospitalization in the case of catching it. Whether these people can be a host is still out for debate.
Jun 14, 2021, 1:06 am
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President Macron said on BFMTV:
> Speaking on behalf of President Biden, I can tell you that he is a friend and somebody who loves France. We currently have a clear agenda concerning our ability to organize the welcoming of American tourists on European, and thus French soil, thanks to the Digital Green Certificate for people having either a negative PCR test or a complete vaccination.
>
> I asked him the question personally and he assured me that clarifications on the situation will be made in the next few weeks by the American health authority. There is still a lot of prudence and restrictions on the side of the Americans right now, but at the same time, their vaccination program has progressed considerably, and they began a few reopenings. So I think that by the end of June, even if he didn't give me a precise date, there will be clarifications. He did, however, assure me of his will to be able to give more transparency concerning either business or touristic travels.
Basically he thinks that we will get an answer by the end of the month, but no specific date has been given.
> Speaking on behalf of President Biden, I can tell you that he is a friend and somebody who loves France. We currently have a clear agenda concerning our ability to organize the welcoming of American tourists on European, and thus French soil, thanks to the Digital Green Certificate for people having either a negative PCR test or a complete vaccination.
>
> I asked him the question personally and he assured me that clarifications on the situation will be made in the next few weeks by the American health authority. There is still a lot of prudence and restrictions on the side of the Americans right now, but at the same time, their vaccination program has progressed considerably, and they began a few reopenings. So I think that by the end of June, even if he didn't give me a precise date, there will be clarifications. He did, however, assure me of his will to be able to give more transparency concerning either business or touristic travels.
Basically he thinks that we will get an answer by the end of the month, but no specific date has been given.