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US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)

US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)

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New thread for discussing 1-day test requirements for travellers arriving in the US by air
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coro...departure.html

Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021

Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...-disease-2019/

Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.

3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.

Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
  • AstraZeneca
  • BIBP/Sinopharm
  • Covishield
  • Janssen/J&J
  • Moderna
  • Pfizer-BioNTech
  • Sinovac
Vaccination certificates must come from an official source
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases

Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021

As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDCs website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.

COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021

The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).

To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).

What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.

- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates

- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.

- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.

- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.

- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.

Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.

CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html


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Old Dec 1, 21, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by warakorn View Post
How do people normally prove residency and citizenship in the US at these testing sites? SSN?
I saw more issues with having to prove age than legal residency or citizenship to get vaccinated and tested in the US. There are still US citizens who have no SSN despite living in the US all their life. [The US still issues US passports to citizens who have never had a SSN.] I saw some such people — not all of whom are Amish — get tested in the US. [At times, the Amish may even park at US hospitals with their horse and buggy.]
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Test availability is extremely limited. Currently in our area cvs tests are fully booked 3-5 days in advance. Any additional test requirements will easily overload the remaining availability.
Yeah there can be quite a backup at times in my area. Where my mom lives, a rural county, there aren't many options to begin with without needing to drive elsewhere, and it can get even more backed up there. Which also means the results come more slowly of course.

When I got my booster the other day at Walgreens I noticed the Binax home test display was gone from in front of the counter. I asked the pharmacist if they were out, she showed me they had 3 boxes behind the counter and wasn't sure when more were arriving. Walmart used to have a similar display that I noticed is gone last week, though I didn't ask if they had any in stock behind the counter. Though on a positive note she said they've been swamped with booster shot appointments.
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How do people normally prove residency and citizenship in the US at these testing sites? SSN?
I really doubt that they have to show a birth certificate, passport card or passport at the testing site?
Esp. when it comes to testing and vaccination, I thought the Biden Administration was trying to not implement any hurdles.
When I sign up for the tests online at one of the major pharmacy chaines, in the online form it asks for the SSN. I'll bring my passport with me to the testing site as ID, as it's my only US-issued form of ID that's still valid.

For daily minor things like age verification I just show my EU-issued ID card.
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Originally Posted by warakorn View Post
It would be interesting to see what happens to foreigners, who are planing to spend less than 3 days in the US (e.g. to transit to Canada etc.).
They were thrown under the bus before and will likely be again.
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They were thrown under the bus before and will likely be again.
So, essentially such people would be not admissable to the US. Oh Man!
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My guess is that any US “pre-booked, post-arrival testing requirement” would have a carve out for those whose tickets don’t have the US showing as the final destination.

Originally Posted by mlin32 View Post
When I sign up for the tests online at one of the major pharmacy chaines, in the online form it asks for the SSN. I'll bring my passport with me to the testing site as ID, as it's my only US-issued form of ID that's still valid.

For daily minor things like age verification I just show my EU-issued ID card.
Did you see what happens if you 000-00-0000 or 999-99-9999 in it on the online form?

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Old Dec 1, 21, 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by mlin32 View Post
When I sign up for the tests online at one of the major pharmacy chaines, in the online form it asks for the SSN. I'll bring my passport with me to the testing site as ID, as it's my only US-issued form of ID that's still valid.

For daily minor things like age verification I just show my EU-issued ID card.
This depends on a type of a test. When registering for a test at "community sites" at one of the major pharmacy chains, nothing is required other than a name and a DOB (currently registered for just such a test)



Originally Posted by richarddd View Post
If we're talking about testing on return to the US, the odds are that you'll know your return date 3-5 days in advance and can book.

Perhaps order one of the supervised at home tests and have it delivered to your hotel, etc. Or see reply immediately above.

This thread is mainly about traveling to the US, not other destination countries.
My point is that the current testing is operating essentially at (or slightly above) capacity. Adding a substantial amount of newly required testing will overload it (and there is no "spare", evidently, otherwise they would have added it long time ago to improve test availability).
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Nearly all urgent care facilities run by hospitals WILL do testing in the US even without an SSN - their registration online may ask for it as US health systems generally use SSN's for insurance ID number as well - was told by one group when getting a visitor tested " just put in all zeroes and when you get here we will reflect they are not a US resident"
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All this is not going to affect land crossings, right?
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All this is not going to affect land crossings, right?
Definitely not those made across the Rio Grande between 10pm and 4am
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All this is not going to affect land crossings, right?
Was thinking the same. Would be extremely difficult to require any of these for citizens who cross land borders.
Perhaps, we'll finally make it to CBX.
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I saw this on CNN:
A mandatory quarantine for US citizens returning home is not under consideration, according to a White House official.

They also don't mention requiring PCR, only the change from 3 days before 1 day before.
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I saw this on CNN:

They also don't mention requiring PCR, only the change from 3 days before 1 day before.
That'll do nothing but enrich the few antigen test providers and create more last minute issues for travelers.

The entire knee-jerk reaction to another virus mutation (perhaps due to its ominously catchy name) is a testament to the fact that reason and science are nowhere near in charge (but I digress)
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The Wiki is way out of date and no longer accurate because it excludes the current ban on travelers from Southern African countries.
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That'll do nothing but enrich the few antigen test providers and create more last minute issues for travelers.

The entire knee-jerk reaction to another virus mutation (perhaps due to its ominously catchy name) is a testament to the fact that reason and science are nowhere near in charge (but I digress)
Indeed, and the virus won't go away and won't stop mutating...so how does this story end? Plus if history is any guide, the US will keep these more restrictive measures in place long after the supposed basis for them is gone or changed.
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