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US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)

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Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021

Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/

Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.

3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.

Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
  • AstraZeneca
  • BIBP/Sinopharm
  • Covishield
  • Janssen/J&J
  • Moderna
  • Pfizer-BioNTech
  • Sinovac
Vaccination certificates must come from an official source
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases

Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021

As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.

COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021

The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).

To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).

What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.

- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates

- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.

- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.

- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.

- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.

Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.

CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html


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Old Nov 27, 21, 3:09 am
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE View Post
Dearestss, I want to be absolutely on the nail with this. I’m booking an Antigen test for tomorrow (Monday) here in Trinidad for travel to the USA on Thursday. If I am wrong, please tell me. I am sure that it is in this thread somewhere and the Wiki (we are they called that?) but I want to be reassured!
This is fine as long as you have proof of vaccination.
If you don't have proof of vaccination then you must get tested at-most 1 day earlier on Wednesday (or Thursday itself).
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Old Nov 27, 21, 4:15 am
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Just to add some perspective here, the European summer tourist season is over and I don’t think it’s clear at all that the EU would not act first in restricting travel from the US if clusters are discovered there, so whether the US should impose a travel ban on Europe could equally become a moot point. After all, the current ‘US travel ban’ is really nothing of the sort and US citizens will continue flying into the US over the near term from Southern Africa requiring only a test three days before departure if vaccinated, giving ample time to subsequently get exposed to the Omicron variant then spread it around the US.
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Old Nov 27, 21, 7:23 am
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Originally Posted by nomiiiii View Post
This is fine as long as you have proof of vaccination.
If you don't have proof of vaccination then you must get tested at-most 1 day earlier on Wednesday (or Thursday itself).
i have had the booster shot already. We went and checked in at Port of Spain having done Verifly. It worked perfectly. We showed the Passes and voilŕ. Thank you all.

I found this and stopped worrying
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Old Nov 27, 21, 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by warakorn View Post
The Omnicron variant had been already detected in the Schengen zone.
It's only a matter of days until it officially pops up in the UK.

You can have a guess - in 2 weeks time Biden will close the US border for European again - probability: 90%.
Those who wanted to fly to the US were smart to do it right away now in November.
With a second UK/Ireland/Schengen Travel Ban - it won't be lifted anytime soon.

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https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...791f1af08b57ce and detected in the UK already
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Old Nov 27, 21, 9:14 am
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Whitin days the variant will be discovered everywhere...so it's going to be interesting...
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Old Nov 27, 21, 9:22 am
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If anybody sane of mind and sound in body thinks that it isn't already with us, then they have learnt nothing in the last 2 miserable years.
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Old Nov 27, 21, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by lost_in_translation View Post
After all, the current ‘US travel ban’ is really nothing of the sort and US citizens will continue flying into the US over the near term from Southern Africa requiring only a test three days before departure if vaccinated, giving ample time to subsequently get exposed to the Omicron variant then spread it around the US.
Actually I believe the US ‘ban’ for Southern Africa now requires all eligible travelers to produce a negative test within one day of departure…there is no three day option here regardless of vaccination status
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Old Nov 27, 21, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta View Post
Actually I believe the US ‘ban’ for Southern Africa now requires all eligible travelers to produce a negative test within one day of departure…there is no three day option here regardless of vaccination status
You mean all eligiblr travelers only from the mentioned African countries right? Not all eligible travellers from anywhere
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Old Nov 27, 21, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by Silver Fox View Post
If anybody sane of mind and sound in body thinks that it isn't already with us, then they have learnt nothing in the last 2 miserable years.
I absolutely agree that it’s probably in a lot more places already but I guess it depends on whether this is still in the “early stages”; if so the travel restrictions could buy us some time in determining how the vaccines work against it and whether this variant causes more severe illness etc.

The UK cases just discovered were apparently related to travel from Southern Africa…

The tests yesterday of the 600 pax on two KLM flights from JNB and CPT into AMS showed a rather alarming 10% positivity rate (61 out of the 600+ pax tested positive!)…looking on the “bright” side, it did stop 61 pax from further spreading it throughout Europe and North America (since many of those pax were no doubt connecting thru AMS).
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Old Nov 27, 21, 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by casey89 View Post
You mean all eligiblr travelers only from the mentioned African countries right? Not all eligible travellers from anywhere
Correct..so all US citizens and PRs coming back from those African countries now need to show a negative test no older than one day from day of departure. Three day rule still applies for the vaccinated coming from Europe and elsewhere
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Old Nov 27, 21, 1:19 pm
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No I have a feeling that Biden will refrain from banning travel from the EU. There are more suspected cases in Israel for instance.
as this week progresses, there will be some imported cases discovered all over Europe but also all over the world, including the US.
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Old Nov 27, 21, 5:04 pm
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No I have a feeling that Biden will refrain from banning travel from the EU. There are more suspected cases in Israel for instance.
as this week progresses, there will be some imported cases discovered all over Europe but also all over the world, including the US.
I would be amazed if Omicron wasn't already in the US. I don't know how much sequencing actually takes place in the US, but I'm like 99.9% sure if they contacted every single person that arrived from SA within the last week and urged them to get sequencing done, they'd find it.

That doesn't mean slowing down the spread wouldn't be a bad idea right now, until we know if such measures are worth keeping or not.
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Old Nov 28, 21, 8:49 am
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I don’t expect the US to close again but I do think they’ll change the tests accepted for entry to full PCR tests and no longer accept Antigen tests. I bet that is confirmed in the coming days.
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I don’t expect the US to close again but I do think they’ll change the tests accepted for entry to full PCR tests and no longer accept Antigen tests. I bet that is confirmed in the coming days.
hope you are right man. Due to the increase number of test on last day i hope the 3 day rule will still work. It is hard to get the results until 48hrs after the test.
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Originally Posted by SteveWhite88 View Post
I don’t expect the US to close again but I do think they’ll change the tests accepted for entry to full PCR tests and no longer accept Antigen tests. I bet that is confirmed in the coming days.
That would make sense. Right now cases in several European countries, Israel, Australia, Egypt, Russia, Hong Kong etc. You would have to bar entry for several countries and at the same point, it’s already in the country.
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