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US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)

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Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021

Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...-disease-2019/

Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.

3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.

Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
  • AstraZeneca
  • BIBP/Sinopharm
  • Covishield
  • Janssen/J&J
  • Moderna
  • Pfizer-BioNTech
  • Sinovac
Vaccination certificates must come from an official source
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases

Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021

As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDCs website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.

COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021

The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).

To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).

What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.

- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates

- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.

- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.

- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.

- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.

Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.

CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html


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Old Sep 17, 21, 10:50 am
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My biggest concern about any reopening is that we are now returning to Winter phase, which means less outdoors, more indoors and further ability of the virus to spread via aerosols in an unventilated space.

Delta causes breakthroughs even in the fully vaccinated. My son and DIL are examples of that. The only difference is that the recurrence is mild disease usually managed by several days of rest and isolation.

At some point, both the US and international community are going to have to recognized Covid as an infection causing mild (for the most part) infections in the fully vaccinated and reopen the borders to those who are vaccinated.
(Unless we all plan to be like Australia, New Zealand and China for the rest of our lives )

If and when the US does open to the vaccinated, they will probably require 3-shots at least.
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If and when the US does open to the vaccinated, they will probably require 3-shots at least.
FDA advisory panel refuses to green-light booster shots for people 16 and over (nypost.com)

Maybe not.
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Old Sep 18, 21, 7:58 pm
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Obviously this doesn't help those who need to see loved ones, but for what it's worth I've arrived in Canada on the day they opened (07 Sep) and the process was relatively painless. Provinces can't seem to make up their mind about covid restrictions, but I've been working around them and having a great time.

If the Americans don't want our money, let's go somewhere we're wanted.
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Old Sep 20, 21, 2:41 am
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Jon Sopel, BBC Correspondent for North America, had this piece out to mark Boris Johnson's visit to the US. The full shebang is here, but the key passes can also be found below. The TL;DR is "don't expect any changes soon, it's political now".

Here's the political problem, and I think it is twofold.

The first is this: Biden's approval ratings have been slipping over the summer. Yes, in Europe, the focus has been on the woeful misjudgements by the president over the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. But here, much more focus is on the latest coronavirus wave, which this administration had promised it would deal with so much more effectively than his predecessor.

But instead, new cases, deaths and hospitalisations have been rising steeply. So, in that context, what is the political impetus for Joe Biden to lift the travel ban if it brings charges from your opponents that you've gone soft on tackling the disease?

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But I am not sure that really gets to the nub of it. It is more likely bureaucratic stasis.

Politicians down the ages are the reverse of golfers - they have always preferred the long grass than closely trimmed fairways. Put the Covid ball into the deep stuff and let it stay there.

The moment you hear working parties, inter-departmental cooperation you should feel anxious. On the US side, this travel ban is now a matter for the State Department, Health, Homeland Security, the Transportation Department, the Centers for Disease Control and National Security Council. I have probably left some bodies out of that.

In other words no one person or department owns the decision; no one owns the policy. It is going to take someone to bang heads together and deal with this. And exasperated British officials that I have spoken to say they see no sign of that happening.
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Old Sep 20, 21, 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by 13901 View Post
Jon Sopel, BBC Correspondent for North America, had this piece out to mark Boris Johnson's visit to the US. The full shebang is here, but the key passes can also be found below. The TL;DR is "don't expect any changes soon, it's political now".
You are right, sadly, but it's still not going to stop Boris Johnson raising it behind closed doors with Biden in their meeting today (reported in the Daily Telegraph behind a paywall. There are, of course, many other significant matters on the agenda.
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Old Sep 20, 21, 4:52 am
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Originally Posted by 13901 View Post
Jon Sopel, BBC Correspondent for North America, had this piece out to mark Boris Johnson's visit to the US. The full shebang is here, but the key passes can also be found below. The TL;DR is "don't expect any changes soon, it's political now".
I certainly understand the bureaucracy, which was so easily predictable, but arent these presidential proclamations? Trump ended them at the drop of a hat in January but Biden immediately reinstated? Or am I missing the point.
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Originally Posted by 13901 View Post
Jon Sopel, BBC Correspondent for North America, had this piece out to mark Boris Johnson's visit to the US. The full shebang is here, but the key passes can also be found below. The TL;DR is "don't expect any changes soon, it's political now".
This is all true, but if Biden was motivated to get this done it could be fixed in an afternoon. Perhaps Boris can bluster his way into some progress this week...
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''Together with my EU Member State colleagues, we have been working diligently to lift the #travelban on Europeans. Hope there’ll be a positive announcement soon''
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US Travel ban will be lifted today.
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If it indeed does (which is way overdue) or when it does if not today I hope that this will set some stability in restrictions in Europe going forward. Feel that things are two unstable to book anything more than a few months in advance especially when you see places close then backtrack like the Netherlands. I’m ok with the Vax, or vax & test requirement just hope things will remain open if the US is indeed reopened for folks from the EU
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US Travel ban will be lifted today.
any source?
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any source?
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Old Sep 20, 21, 7:45 am
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Originally Posted by yno View Post
any source?
From Jon Sopel, BBC, who was quoted earlier.

“BREAKING: Am hearing announcement coming today on relaxing of US travel ban. Looks like those with double vaccine to be allowed to enter US from November.”

“Am told announcement came completely out of blue to British officials. Expectation had been there would be no progress on this.”

“US to announce new system for global travel. Apparently US officials briefing airlines as I write this.”





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wow this timing, I just booked a different trip for Christmas with no cancellation (VRBO) YESTERDAY, because I was convinced I wasn't going to be able to see family for Christmas.

... that's gonna make for an awkward family phone call...
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As the kids would say...
Well, that escalated quickly
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