Sep 15, 2021, 1:47 pm
Last edit by: NewbieRunner
New thread for discussing 1-day test requirements for travellers arriving in the US by air
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
- AstraZeneca
- BIBP/Sinopharm
- Covishield
- Janssen/J&J
- Moderna
- Pfizer-BioNTech
- Sinovac
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)
Sep 6, 2021, 10:14 am
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Sep 6, 2021, 10:19 am
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Mauritius - no quarantine for tourists as from 01 Oct 21
Sep 6, 2021, 12:16 pm
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Dubai? Not mu favourite place but its where I went before heading to the US.
Sep 6, 2021, 1:49 pm
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Sep 6, 2021, 2:37 pm
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There are plenty of Balkan airports which offers Turkish Airlines connections to the USA, such as in Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Croatia, or even Ukraine, but I have no idea which of these countries would be red on the UK list.
Sep 7, 2021, 3:34 am
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Unfortunately none scheduled this fall. Turkey is on the red list, so connections there are out. Which simply leaves connecting via Doha or Dubai - both currently amber. Sadly, the easy options are all closing down.
Sep 7, 2021, 4:52 am
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I don't understand the logic of this. When you say "red list," you're presumably talking about countries that are red listed by the UK, in case you need to go back home to the UK for a family emergency. But the transfer in Turkey would be for a flight to the USA. As soon as your two weeks in Croatia, Romania, Bulgaria or wherever are over, and you're on your way to the USA, it doesn't really matter if the transfer to the USA is in a country on the UK red list. If the family emergency would arise when you're in Croatia, and you would need to cancel your trip to the USA, it really doesn't matter whether that cancelled flight was via a red listed country.
Sep 7, 2021, 8:42 am
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I don't understand the logic of this. When you say "red list," you're presumably talking about countries that are red listed by the UK, in case you need to go back home to the UK for a family emergency. But the transfer in Turkey would be for a flight to the USA. As soon as your two weeks in Croatia, Romania, Bulgaria or wherever are over, and you're on your way to the USA, it doesn't really matter if the transfer to the USA is in a country on the UK red list. If the family emergency would arise when you're in Croatia, and you would need to cancel your trip to the USA, it really doesn't matter whether that cancelled flight was via a red listed country.
/mod hat on
But we are going off topic here! Please remember this thread is about US reopening for travellers from Schengen countries and the UK.
/mod hat off
Sep 7, 2021, 10:10 am
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While the entry ban is a very very blunt tool, I think most would agree the pandemic is not yet over in US so I cannot see it being rescinded until November at least.
As evidence - US hospitalizations for COVID-19:
As evidence - US hospitalizations for COVID-19:
Sep 7, 2021, 12:17 pm
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I get the exasperation and the likelihood that the mods will yet again lock the thread, but perhaps it could be useful to widen the thread slightly to accommodate proven strategies for getting to the US for those of us who need or wish to jump through however many hoops to achieve this?
We are coming to the end of two weeks in Jamaica and no, it didn’t help that the UK government put Jamaica on the Amber list the day of our VS flight to MBJ but as has been said upthread, we’re not returning from Jamaica to the UK.
On Saturday we fly courtesy of United, from MBJ to EWR for our first visit to family for two years, staying there for just over two weeks. Unless the mods rule against, I’ll report the result.
We are coming to the end of two weeks in Jamaica and no, it didn’t help that the UK government put Jamaica on the Amber list the day of our VS flight to MBJ but as has been said upthread, we’re not returning from Jamaica to the UK.
On Saturday we fly courtesy of United, from MBJ to EWR for our first visit to family for two years, staying there for just over two weeks. Unless the mods rule against, I’ll report the result.
Sep 7, 2021, 5:45 pm
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Several posts which are off topic for this thread have been moved to the following thread in OMNI/PR where the entry ban was being discussed.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni...demic-839.html
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni...demic-839.html
/mod
Sep 7, 2021, 11:52 pm
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Sep 8, 2021, 5:16 am
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Agreed, but for some reason my suggestion that it should remain the point of this thread, that there should be a thread in OMNI/PR for political posts and another thread for helpful suggestions around the ban was itself considered to be political and thus removed. Strange.
Sep 8, 2021, 7:00 am
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Agreed, but for some reason my suggestion that it should remain the point of this thread, that there should be a thread in OMNI/PR for political posts and another thread for helpful suggestions around the ban was itself considered to be political and thus removed. Strange.
