Sep 15, 2021, 1:47 pm
Last edit by: NewbieRunner
New thread for discussing 1-day test requirements for travellers arriving in the US by air
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
- AstraZeneca
- BIBP/Sinopharm
- Covishield
- Janssen/J&J
- Moderna
- Pfizer-BioNTech
- Sinovac
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)
May 18, 2021, 7:12 am
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And righly so. Unless there is reciprocity, borders ought to remain closed to American visitors. I am glad the French have made that clear. I also heard Ursula van der Leyen saying something about that on TV.
May 18, 2021, 7:23 am
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Guilty as charged.
May 18, 2021, 8:05 am
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May 18, 2021, 8:10 am
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Edi Thru Dublin to USA
Hi all,
I cannot find a clear answer online for this, but excuse me if that is my mistake.
In the event of the US opening to UK before it opens to the EU, does anyone know if I could depart Edi and travel thru Dublin to the US?
This is assuming Ireland is not allowed into the US as it is part of the EU, but the UK is.
This may be a hypothetical at the current time, which would explain why I can't find a definitive answer anywhere.
But if someone does know of concise literature that clears this up, I'd appreciate that info.
Basically, is a Dublin connection going to work once the UK/US route opens?
Many thanks in advance
I cannot find a clear answer online for this, but excuse me if that is my mistake.
In the event of the US opening to UK before it opens to the EU, does anyone know if I could depart Edi and travel thru Dublin to the US?
This is assuming Ireland is not allowed into the US as it is part of the EU, but the UK is.
This may be a hypothetical at the current time, which would explain why I can't find a definitive answer anywhere.
But if someone does know of concise literature that clears this up, I'd appreciate that info.
Basically, is a Dublin connection going to work once the UK/US route opens?
Many thanks in advance
May 18, 2021, 8:20 am
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This is assuming Ireland is not allowed into the US as it is part of the EU, but the UK is.
Short reason: Due to the open border between Ireland and Northern Ireland (UK) US CBP has no way in knowing whether an Irish citizen, flying from LHR to the US, had been in Ireland 14 days before the flight.
Basically, is a Dublin connection going to work once the UK/US route opens?
So, it won't work.
Do not book any transatlantic flights at this time!
May 18, 2021, 8:24 am
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Just a bit of thinking...
If the US were to open up, would it be just smarter to do it progressively.
Let me just be clearer:
If the US were to open up, would it be just smarter to do it progressively.
Let me just be clearer:
- Open to vaccinated people that have business in the US,
- Then just to vaccinated people,
- Then just for business to vaccinated people or a 72h PCR test,
- etc..
- and last for tourism
May 18, 2021, 8:27 am
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Just a bit of thinking...
If the US were to open up, would it be just smarter to do it progressively.
Let me just be clearer:
If the US were to open up, would it be just smarter to do it progressively.
Let me just be clearer:
- Open to vaccinated people that have business in the US,
- Then just to vaccinated people,
- Then just for business to vaccinated people or a 72h PCR test,
- etc..
- and last for tourism
May 18, 2021, 8:47 am
#204
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Just a bit of thinking...
If the US were to open up, would it be just smarter to do it progressively.
Let me just be clearer:
If the US were to open up, would it be just smarter to do it progressively.
Let me just be clearer:
- Open to vaccinated people that have business in the US,
- Then just to vaccinated people,
- Then just for business to vaccinated people or a 72h PCR test,
- etc..
- and last for tourism
May 18, 2021, 9:46 am
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And let's not forget that not all US international airports are accepting UK flights, e.g. LAX is, SAN is not.
May 18, 2021, 10:13 am
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I thought that that restriction ( only certain airports were allowed for Intl arrivals from the UK) had been lifted?. BA may have also separately decided due to demand to suspend SAN at the moment.
Regards
TBS
May 18, 2021, 10:42 am
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The Indian mutation is probably more wide.spread in the US than in Europe, as the US waited a long time to ban travel from India. There is a tremendous pressure on Biden right now from other countries and the travel industry. If the US does not reciprocate, most EU countries will still ban Americans which would be hard to motivate to the American people. The EU covid curve has plummeted the past weeks. In some EU-countries, like Sweden for instance, more than 40 % have received the first shot.
I seriously doubt many Europeans will rush to get tickets to the United States this summer. Those who have to travel will, but most will wait and see what happens this fall.
I seriously doubt many Europeans will rush to get tickets to the United States this summer. Those who have to travel will, but most will wait and see what happens this fall.
Lufthansa said on Tuesday it was seeing a surge in demand for flights to the United States and to European destinations following a loosening of German travel restrictions as coronavirus case numbers decline.
Demand for summer flights to New York, Miami and Los Angeles has increased by up to 300%, the German airline group said, adding it would lay on extra flights from June and has restarted services to Orlando and Atlanta.
Demand for summer flights to New York, Miami and Los Angeles has increased by up to 300%, the German airline group said, adding it would lay on extra flights from June and has restarted services to Orlando and Atlanta.
Is Germany considered to be in Northern Europe?
May 18, 2021, 10:50 am
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I see Lufthansa is slated to resume their Orlando service on June 2nd and hasn't pushed it back yet. I really do hope there is some movement in the next couple of weeks because reciprocity should be a condition for most countries I'd hope. I believe the EU would make that a stipulation.
May 18, 2021, 10:57 am
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I think Biden should lift the restrictions on the EU and the UK.
However, the reality is that EU politicians are being pressured by their tourism businesses to open up tourism as widely as possible, which means including Americans.
I don't think they're pushing for reciprocity as a condition to allowing Americans in. There may be other stakeholders which demand reciprocity but the people pushing the hardest to open up don't care about reciprocity.
So we will see what the politicians do but keep in mind, Americans spend way more in Europe than Europeans do in America.
However, the reality is that EU politicians are being pressured by their tourism businesses to open up tourism as widely as possible, which means including Americans.
I don't think they're pushing for reciprocity as a condition to allowing Americans in. There may be other stakeholders which demand reciprocity but the people pushing the hardest to open up don't care about reciprocity.
So we will see what the politicians do but keep in mind, Americans spend way more in Europe than Europeans do in America.
May 18, 2021, 12:08 pm
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I didn't know that the International Arrival Airports into the US had been changed. When was this, please? In any case, BA have zero-ed out all flights to SAN before July 12, and then no First is mentioned thereafter.