Sep 15, 2021, 1:47 pm
Last edit by: NewbieRunner
New thread for discussing 1-day test requirements for travellers arriving in the US by air
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
- AstraZeneca
- BIBP/Sinopharm
- Covishield
- Janssen/J&J
- Moderna
- Pfizer-BioNTech
- Sinovac
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)
Jul 28, 2021, 9:15 am
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It just shows that the UK needs US tourists more than the US needs UK tourists, that's about it.
Jul 28, 2021, 9:16 am
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The US can't open up to the UK or Europe right now because if we did the delta variant might come in. Or at least that seems to be the administration's worry.
Jul 28, 2021, 9:18 am
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The pressure is that the only country still banning travel regardless is the US and like its been said here endlessly the continued ban neither follows science nor logic.
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Jul 28, 2021, 9:27 am
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I disagree, one by one all counties are lifting restrictions albeit like here on condition of a vaccine passport which is irrelevant because you still have to test before and after travelling so the vaccine passport brings nothing to the party other than control and coercion.
The pressure is that the only country still banning travel regardless is the US and like its been said here endlessly the continued ban neither follows science nor logic.
The pressure is that the only country still banning travel regardless is the US and like its been said here endlessly the continued ban neither follows science nor logic.
(semi-sarcastic).As long as Americans aren't overwhelmingly against the travel ban, no amount of outside influence will matter, much as we'd all like it to, me included. I think the administration is probably weighing if allowing vaccinated travel is worth the domestic uproar against such a policy, since anti-vaccine sentiments are so prevalent here...
Jul 28, 2021, 9:40 am
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The only thing that matters to America is what Americans think, and UK visitors are not a top priority. If living here has taught me anything, it's that Americans barely acknowledge the existence of other countries, not to mention their needs and problems (semi-sarcastic).
As long as Americans aren't overwhelmingly against the travel ban, no amount of outside influence will matter, much as we'd all like it to, me included. I think the administration is probably weighing if allowing vaccinated travel is worth the domestic uproar against such a policy, since anti-vaccine sentiments are so prevalent here...
(semi-sarcastic).As long as Americans aren't overwhelmingly against the travel ban, no amount of outside influence will matter, much as we'd all like it to, me included. I think the administration is probably weighing if allowing vaccinated travel is worth the domestic uproar against such a policy, since anti-vaccine sentiments are so prevalent here...
The pressure on the Biden administration will surely be coming from the business and the travel sector, financially despite the gung-ho USA, USA attitude this will be hurting a lot of businesses, many will be donors and supporters of the democrats and they will become more vocal the longer this drags on, especially the more isolated the US becomes with its approach.
Jul 28, 2021, 10:47 am
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I disagree, one by one all counties are lifting restrictions albeit like here on condition of a vaccine passport which is irrelevant because you still have to test before and after travelling so the vaccine passport brings nothing to the party other than control and coercion.
You could get a negative test result just before you become contagious, and then be spreading COVID around for a few days.
It's layered risk management.
As long as Americans aren't overwhelmingly against the travel ban, no amount of outside influence will matter, much as we'd all like it to, me included. I think the administration is probably weighing if allowing vaccinated travel is worth the domestic uproar against such a policy, since anti-vaccine sentiments are so prevalent here...
I disagree about the uproar against requiring vaccinations for visitors. First, as we both agree, most Americans don't seem to care one way or another about foreign tourists/business travelers. Second, there is a rumor that the administration is going to impose a vaccine mandate on federal workers and contractors as early as tomorrow. If the administration thinks it can withstand blowback from requiring millions of Americans to be vaccinated (and the VA has already done so), then surely the blowback for requiring the same of foreign citizens will be less.
Jul 28, 2021, 10:52 am
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Jul 28, 2021, 12:07 pm
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I am so sorry to read this, it’s been a fear of mine for the last almost 18 months. So much irreplaceable time lost that should have been spent with loved ones. As an elderly relative put it “Time is not on my side”.
Jul 28, 2021, 12:32 pm
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Jul 28, 2021, 1:19 pm
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Second, there is a rumor that the administration is going to impose a vaccine mandate on federal workers and contractors as early as tomorrow. If the administration thinks it can withstand blowback from requiring millions of Americans to be vaccinated (and the VA has already done so), then surely the blowback for requiring the same of foreign citizens will be less.
The only thing that matters to America is what Americans think, and UK visitors are not a top priority. If living here has taught me anything, it's that Americans barely acknowledge the existence of other countries, not to mention their needs and problems (semi-sarcastic).
As long as Americans aren't overwhelmingly against the travel ban, no amount of outside influence will matter, much as we'd all like it to, me included. I think the administration is probably weighing if allowing vaccinated travel is worth the domestic uproar against such a policy, since anti-vaccine sentiments are so prevalent here...
(semi-sarcastic).As long as Americans aren't overwhelmingly against the travel ban, no amount of outside influence will matter, much as we'd all like it to, me included. I think the administration is probably weighing if allowing vaccinated travel is worth the domestic uproar against such a policy, since anti-vaccine sentiments are so prevalent here...
Jul 28, 2021, 1:24 pm
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I doubt when the midterm elections happen ~16 months from now many people who would have voted for the Democrats will end up voting for Republicans instead because of vaccines for federal workers/contractors. The state of the economy (and by implication COVID) will surely be higher up on the list of concerns for voters by then.
Jul 28, 2021, 1:33 pm
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I doubt when the midterm elections happen ~16 months from now many people who would have voted for the Democrats will end up voting for Republicans instead because of vaccines for federal workers/contractors. The state of the economy (and by implication COVID) will surely be higher up on the list of concerns for voters by then.
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