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Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021

Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/

Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.

3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.

Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
  • AstraZeneca
  • BIBP/Sinopharm
  • Covishield
  • Janssen/J&J
  • Moderna
  • Pfizer-BioNTech
  • Sinovac
Vaccination certificates must come from an official source
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases

Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021

As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDCs website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.

COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021

The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).

To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).

What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.

- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates

- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.

- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.

- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.

- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.

Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.

CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html


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Old Jul 19, 21, 5:48 am
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Originally Posted by roberino
The restrictions only make no sense if you look at them from a purely public health point of view. We can all see that allowing tested, double-vaccinated individuals to travel presents a low risk. There's clearly several political agendas that are influencing the decision making to a significantly higher degree. I've written to my MP and I'd urge you to do the same.
What exactly do you expect your MP to do about this? Actually, what could the PM do about it? Give Biden a telling off?

America is flexing its political muscle and does not care a single bit what its "partners" think about that.
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Old Jul 19, 21, 5:53 am
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What exactly do you expect your MP to do about this? Actually, what could the PM do about it? Give Biden a telling off?
I've written to my congressman. As I don't get a vote in the USA I doubt that will have much effect either. To be fair though, he does respond and his office seems very sympathetic to our situation.
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Old Jul 19, 21, 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by oceanscape
Do you have a link for this please? Can't see anything online and CDC website still says Level 3?
Both State Department and CDC now have the UK at level 3. That is the same CDC level as the US

Here is the state department link to the UK advisory
https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...edKingdom.html
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Old Jul 19, 21, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by golfmad
I've written to my congressman. As I don't get a vote in the USA I doubt that will have much effect either. To be fair though, he does respond and his office seems very sympathetic to our situation.
Citizenship is not a factor, tbh. Congressmen represent "all Persons" in their district, according to the Constitution.
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Old Jul 19, 21, 6:59 am
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US department of state wrote emails to registered citizens, about specific travel guidance - and warned them the UK is Level 4
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Old Jul 19, 21, 7:04 am
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US department of state wrote emails to registered citizens, about specific travel guidance - and warned them the UK is Level 4
Ahh yes, the UK. As dangerous as North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Somalia, and Yemen according to the US state department. I'm honestly curious what idiot looks at this, thinks it seems accurate, and then signs off on it.
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Old Jul 19, 21, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by oceanscape
Yes, my whole issue is that the current restrictions make no sense whatsoever. Fair enough if USA wants to block "risky" countries but the whole problem with the current rules is that plenty of the most "risky" countries are allowed entry whilst other, less "risky" countries are not. Entirely non-sensical.
Others have pointed this out, but... Yes, people from more risky countries can technically visit the US, but how many can actually do it? Without the travel ban, an EU traveler can decide to visit the US in the morning and be in New York City that evening. Travelers from most risky places can't do that, either because they would have to get a visa first, or because they aren't as wealthy.
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Are there any statistics available on how many tourist visas are being granted per country?
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Old Jul 19, 21, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by glbltvlr
Bottom line: The UK press will continue to print headlines that focus on the rising infection case numbers and the inevitable new varients. HMG won't relax visitor quarantine restrictions for visitors until at least mid September, in order to see what impact "Freedom Day" has on hospitalizations. The US will continue to "study the problem," also well into fall.

I'm trying very hard not to be pissed.
I agree with your estimate, and I agree that it's an unfortunate situation. And then in September...flu season will be starting, which will probably lead to a corresponding uptick in infection rates. I wouldn't expect a real reopening until March or April of 2022 at this rate.
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Originally Posted by Deckter
What exactly do you expect your MP to do about this? Actually, what could the PM do about it? Give Biden a telling off?

America is flexing its political muscle and does not care a single bit what its "partners" think about that.
I'd hazard a guess it's doing more than posting on FT.

If every business person that needs to travel to/from the US wrote to their MP (or Representative) that'd be a lot harder to ignore than a forum thread, and might inspire them to push for a diplomatic solution a whole lot sooner.
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Old Jul 19, 21, 8:34 am
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Citizenship is not a factor, tbh. Congressmen represent "all Persons" in their district, according to the Constitution.
I didn't mention anything about citizenship.

Congresspeople are there to represent their constituents. A constituent is a voting member of a community. I am not a voting member. I only get to pay taxes.

From my representative's response. "Please know that I am committed to serving all of the constituents of District xx"
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If European countries were serious about opening travel with the US, with reciprocity, they could do so. The Biden Administrations has an agenda that requires the support of European countries. European countries just need to say, " you want our support, open your borders". This administration would fold like a wet noodle.
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it's now on CDC site as level 4 now
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Originally Posted by BXK_Oz
If European countries were serious about opening travel with the US, with reciprocity, they could do so. The Biden Administrations has an agenda that requires the support of European countries. European countries just need to say, " you want our support, open your borders". This administration would fold like a wet noodle.
Exactly. And that's what the German corporations accused Merkel of. From what they told me, if the US does not change its attitude by the end of August, the EU will have to decide between two options. The first is to erect a mirror travel ban on the US. The second option discussed is to no longer collaborate on tables that are essential for the US, that is, relations with China and Russia. This would isolate Biden's US as Trump's. In any case it will be a mess.
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it's now on CDC site as level 4 now
Wow. One step forward, four back.

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Now updated on their site

COVID-19 in the United Kingdom - COVID-19 Very High - Level 4: COVID-19 Very High - Travel Health Notices | Travelers' Health | CDC
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