EU to let vaccinated travellers in!
Apr 25, 2021, 10:42 pm
#31
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Once the first person with a fake card enters and starts spreading Covid around Europe those handwritten CDC cards will be done.... Hope there is some more verifiable system that can be got up and running quickly....
Apr 26, 2021, 12:06 am
#32
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Just a small point of order: It is not the EU who gets to decide what the travel rules are for individual countries within the EU. One country may open, another may not, and it's got sod all to do with what the EU has to say on the matter.
Apr 26, 2021, 1:17 am
#33
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Indeed. Border restrictions are primarily a member state rather than an EU competence. Ursula is clearly signalling what she wants to happen, but there is no obligation for EU states to follow. There will be pressure to sort out intra-EU travel restrictions before third countries.
Apr 26, 2021, 1:42 am
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Sounds like those eBay auctions are going to be popular this summer....
Apr 26, 2021, 2:02 am
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Also please be aware that there are still restrictions in various countries, for exemple in Germany it is forbidden for hotels to rent room to tourists, they must be business or personal trips and proof are asked. Restaurants are closed in many countries. This will be still the case in May and most likely in June too.
Apr 26, 2021, 2:21 am
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Apr 26, 2021, 2:22 am
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Precisely. Whilst the EU can issue guidance, there is nothing stopping individual countries from continuing to restrict travel.
Apr 26, 2021, 2:38 am
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Apr 26, 2021, 2:39 am
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Also please be aware that there are still restrictions in various countries, for exemple in Germany it is forbidden for hotels to rent room to tourists, they must be business or personal trips and proof are asked. Restaurants are closed in many countries. This will be still the case in May and most likely in June too.
Apr 26, 2021, 2:44 am
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True. It's just extremely unlikely to happen in a single case, and it's statistically impossible for it to have a meaningful effect on infection dynamics. Things that need to go wrong:
1. Tourist needs to be exposed to someone who is infected before leaving the US
2. Vaccine needs to fail to protect said tourist
3. Tourist needs to make it to foreign country w/o their illness being discovered
4. Tourist needs to encounter unvaccinated locals, or locals in whom vaccination has also failed
What's the probability of #1 happening? Of #2 happening? Of #3 and #4? And then adjust for the probability of #1-2-3-4 happening in exactly the right time frame and sequence...we're not at 0%, but pretty damn close! =)
1. Tourist needs to be exposed to someone who is infected before leaving the US
2. Vaccine needs to fail to protect said tourist
3. Tourist needs to make it to foreign country w/o their illness being discovered
4. Tourist needs to encounter unvaccinated locals, or locals in whom vaccination has also failed
What's the probability of #1 happening? Of #2 happening? Of #3 and #4? And then adjust for the probability of #1-2-3-4 happening in exactly the right time frame and sequence...we're not at 0%, but pretty damn close! =)
Apr 26, 2021, 3:00 am
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Exactly and that country may have a color code for certain regions also that you may or may not visit.
Apr 26, 2021, 4:47 am
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I assume there will be some sort of reciprocity between the US and the EU?
Apr 26, 2021, 5:11 am
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UK already beat the EU in this regard. US travellers were never banned from entering. So long as US travellers has covid test past 3 days and self isolated for first 10 days, they are welcome in UK.