Best places where they are least concerned about Covid
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Baseball anyone?
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I don't really understand baseball but I wouldn't mind a few weeks going round the steak houses.
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The situation in Brazil argues against both of your points.
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The situation in Brazil argues against both of your points.
The situation in Brazil argues against both of your points.
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Well it's 9pm and I just got home from a bar in Stockholm. Had a nice evening but the 8.30 closing kicked in. As long as you don't mind being tucked into bed with a scotch and coke hot cocoa at 9pm this is not a bad place to be.
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Hmm. Strange. I only ever knew one person who had it. He coughed and spluttered for a day or two and then he was fine. We ended up getting drunk together in a craft beer outlet in Stockholm a couple of weeks later.
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Bars are arguably among the safest places right now, given that most of their visitors are the so-called irresponsible people, who must have had covid by now
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Agree - many of those back-slapping themselves and laughing at Sweden fail to acknowledge that their excess death rate vis-a-vis the UK and most of Europe is lower. It's strange what happens when you start to look at unnecessary deaths full-stop, versus those instigated by one viral cause... (https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-m...cess-mortality)
Also mortality per capita is high. I think you do not understand what excess death rate represents ?
Here are the actual numbers:
https://www.strategie.gouv.fr/sites/...s_-_28-0_0.pdf
In Sweden, there are been 15.5% more deaths than expected based on the last years. (Table 1)
https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-...c-cbdf5b386938
And to help the OP, in Nordic countries, based on stringency index, the one with the less restrictions and more normality would be Finland.
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Sweden excess deaths relatives to historical data for the same date: just under 20%, more than Netherlands, Austria, Hungary, France, Germany, Greece, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Island. So definitely not lower than most of Europe.
Also mortality per capita is high. I think you do not understand what excess death rate represents ?
Here are the actual numbers:
https://www.strategie.gouv.fr/sites/...s_-_28-0_0.pdf
In Sweden, there are been 15.5% more deaths than expected based on the last years. (Table 1)
https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-...c-cbdf5b386938
And to help the OP, in Nordic countries, based on stringency index, the one with the less restrictions and more normality would be Norway.
Also mortality per capita is high. I think you do not understand what excess death rate represents ?
Here are the actual numbers:
https://www.strategie.gouv.fr/sites/...s_-_28-0_0.pdf
In Sweden, there are been 15.5% more deaths than expected based on the last years. (Table 1)
https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-...c-cbdf5b386938
And to help the OP, in Nordic countries, based on stringency index, the one with the less restrictions and more normality would be Norway.
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I want to travel this summer and I don’t want to be tangled up in Covid [mod edit]. I’m thinking maybe Mexico or Costa Rica. I would like to go to the mountains. Do you have any ideas? The country that doesn’t require quarantines or anything like that.
Probably just Costa Rica or Mexico ...
Probably just Costa Rica or Mexico ...
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Although I would say that Finland does not actually fit the description of "least concerned about Covid" given that there has been number of actions like closing various places like restaurants, bars, gyms, cinemas etc. Granted, number of the measures to curb the pandemic in Finland has been more of recommendations than strict requirements. But one of the stricter restrictions has been the entry policy on Finnish borders: unless you are Finnish citizen/resident, you better have a good excuse to get in. Vacation is certainly not included on the list of the valid excuses as the most recent changes ruled out even non-essential work visits, which apparently surprised some construction workers from the Baltics who were denied entry despite that they had been contracted to work in construction sites in Finland.
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Anyone claiming that Finland had fewer restrictions than Sweden must be living on another planet. Finland has repeatedly closed restaurants and other parts of economy. They even had domestic travel restrictions in place at certain times, e.g. banning people from leaving Uusimaa region. This kind of restrictions is completely unthinkable in Sweden. Fransknorge gave us a fine example of what happens when someone tries to read data they don't understand.
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Back on topic for the OP,
My friends and I (we are US citizens, some with other passports)are going to Tanzania in late September and while all of us will be fully vaccinated we chose to go there due to no Covid testing in order to arrive nor quarantine! That was a huge factor in our decision to go as all of us have visited the continent many times and this was a no brainer for us to book.
Kilimanjaro is not the only mountain there but to do that safely you should consider going with an official group tour and Tanzania pretty much requires this in order to stay safe and to ensure employment and decent wages to the amazing citizens who do this.
There are other mountains quite close to Arusha(the closest city from arriving into the Kili airport) and you can easily book day or overnight trips to climb Mt. Meru and likely other hills and mountains.
We booked our lodging through an excellent travel agency based in Cape Town and every trip they have curated for us has been phenomenal. It is small wonder they have been a #1 travel agency in Africa for many years.
My friends and I (we are US citizens, some with other passports)are going to Tanzania in late September and while all of us will be fully vaccinated we chose to go there due to no Covid testing in order to arrive nor quarantine! That was a huge factor in our decision to go as all of us have visited the continent many times and this was a no brainer for us to book.
Kilimanjaro is not the only mountain there but to do that safely you should consider going with an official group tour and Tanzania pretty much requires this in order to stay safe and to ensure employment and decent wages to the amazing citizens who do this.
There are other mountains quite close to Arusha(the closest city from arriving into the Kili airport) and you can easily book day or overnight trips to climb Mt. Meru and likely other hills and mountains.
We booked our lodging through an excellent travel agency based in Cape Town and every trip they have curated for us has been phenomenal. It is small wonder they have been a #1 travel agency in Africa for many years.
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So if that is the case, then what is the point of this thread??
I suspect that people want to talk about the pros and cons of traveling to various countries. Those will include the "hysterical" and "overly cautious" as well as the "reckless" and "unconcerned" comments espoused by various posters.
Support groups say it best
"Take what you want and leave the rest"
It's why we have threads.