Covid test for entry/re-entry to US [merged thread]
Being reported by several news organizations... CDC is expected to announce that a negative covid test is required for all inbound international travel to the US.
Limited details are available currently. https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...us/6640424002/ |
If this is true, including American citizens and residents, then International Travel is dead.
Nobody in their right mind is going to risk being stranded abroad. Not to mention the difficulty getting a test before returning home. Thousands of Americans visit Mexico every week. How are all these people gonna get a test before boarding their flight home? In Puerto Vallarta or Cancun somewhere? Yeah right :rolleyes: Or take Europe for instance. Millions of Americans visited Europe in 2019 during summer. Are all these people going to get tested "somewhere" in Europe 72 hours before boarding a plane? Yeah right. :rolleyes: Testing capacity is simply not there, not to mention the chance you might get stranded because of a (false) positive test. Could not even be your fault. Maybe someone was passing you on the street and sneezed, or bumped into you, or whatever happened. Same goes for Europeans wanting to visit the US. They might get tested in their home town, somewhere in Europe, but how are they gonna get a test before heading home? At ATL, JFK? Sure, for a few dozens pax that might work, but not for thousands or millions of pax. Not to mention that IF you test positive as a European in the US you might fall faul of "overstaying your visa". Then you go to jail. So, once again: International Travel (as we have know it) will be DEAD if these rules are really implemented. I expect that most if not all Europeans will probably prefer to vacation in Europe this year. Simply because of less risk. Same goes for Americans. Better stay in the US then travel abroad. |
This is a smart move and should have been implemented a long time ago, The US is largely closed to European entry without a reason so tourism is simply not in the cards anyway.
Compliance is relatively easy from most locations and, where it is not, people are simply going to have to make other arrangements. Health & safety first This is likely to encourage travel, certainly among HVC business travelers as it gives greater confidence that one isn't spending 7-10 hours in a tube of Covid. On the other hand, if you are sick, you should be seeking medical attention and isolating. Not traveling and infection people along the way. |
Interesting ... I was going to go to an isolated part of Mexico later this month, but doubt I'd be able to get a negative test in Mexico while I'm there (also even doing so sounds like a hassle that would make the trip unenjoyable / stressful). I can't imagine how people will react who had travel plans to go to Mexico (or another nearby country with open borders). Seems like a nightmare.
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Originally Posted by kthpence
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Interesting ... I was going to go to an isolated part of Mexico later this month, but doubt I'd be able to get a negative test in Mexico while I'm there (also even doing so sounds like a hassle that would make the trip unenjoyable / stressful). I can't imagine how people will react who had travel plans to go to Mexico (or another nearby country with open borders). Seems like a nightmare.
I have two foreign trips plans this winter and spring, but fortunately with miles only. Should be easy to cancel. No way in hell I will give any real money to any airline as long as these reactionary policies are being discussed or are on the books. |
Originally Posted by Dieuwer
(Post 32962787)
We will have to see if it actually get implemented, and then if someone runs to SCOTUS to get an injunction. No doubt in my mind this will end up in the courts.
I have two foreign trips plans this winter and spring, but fortunately with miles only. Should be easy to cancel. No way in hell I will give any real money to any airline as long as these reactionary policies are being discussed or are on the books. |
Assuming wherever I'm going has a testing regime in place that's efficient and accurate, I have no qualms with it. If this is what it takes to get us off neutral and get the show back on the road, I'm all for it.
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Originally Posted by Visconti
(Post 32962828)
Assuming wherever I'm going has a testing regime in place that's efficient and accurate, I have no qualms with it. If this is what it takes to get us off neutral and get the show back on the road, I'm all for it.
I think it is pie-in-the-sky to assume ANY country can handle thousands if not millions of tests for each passenger each day. Most countries already are buckling under the strain of having to test their own population. Good luck getting an appointment as an American in-time somewhere abroad. |
CDC has confirmed that it will issue a comprehensive order later today. Effective 1/26. That's a bit longer than it should be, but it's better than not happening. According to CDC statement, either a negative test or adequate medical proof of recovery are required prior to boarding and air carriers are directed to deny boarding to anyone who cannot produce one or both.
Same as already exists for UK-US travel and easily fits within existing law. Air carriers really pushed hard for this and it's just taken a while. |
A pre-testing is like a foreign issued passport. If you really want to control something, you would require a visa, not a passport.
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 32962873)
CDC has confirmed that it will issue a comprehensive order later today. Effective 1/26. That's a bit longer than it should be, but it's better than not happening. According to CDC statement, either a negative test or adequate medical proof of recovery are required prior to boarding and air carriers are directed to deny boarding to anyone who cannot produce one or both.
Same as already exists for UK-US travel and easily fits within existing law. Air carriers really pushed hard for this and it's just taken a while. |
Originally Posted by Visconti
(Post 32962828)
Assuming wherever I'm going has a testing regime in place that's efficient and accurate, I have no qualms with it. If this is what it takes to get us off neutral and get the show back on the road, I'm all for it.
Regards |
Originally Posted by freedom2020
(Post 32962882)
I can't believe air carriers pushed for this. How come a more restricted measure will bring more travelers? It's a closing down, not open up.
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Originally Posted by Dieuwer
(Post 32962714)
If this is true, including American citizens and residents, then International Travel is dead.
Nobody in their right mind is going to risk being stranded abroad. Not to mention the difficulty getting a test before returning home. Thousands of Americans visit Mexico every week. How are all these people gonna get a test before boarding their flight home? In Puerto Vallarta or Cancun somewhere? Yeah right :rolleyes: Or take Europe for instance. Millions of Americans visited Europe in 2019 during summer. Are all these people going to get tested "somewhere" in Europe 72 hours before boarding a plane? Yeah right. :rolleyes: Testing capacity is simply not there, not to mention the chance you might get stranded because of a (false) positive test. Could not even be your fault. Maybe someone was passing you on the street and sneezed, or bumped into you, or whatever happened. Same goes for Europeans wanting to visit the US. They might get tested in their home town, somewhere in Europe, but how are they gonna get a test before heading home? At ATL, JFK? Sure, for a few dozens pax that might work, but not for thousands or millions of pax. Not to mention that IF you test positive as a European in the US you might fall faul of "overstaying your visa". Then you go to jail. So, once again: International Travel (as we have know it) will be DEAD if these rules are really implemented. I expect that most if not all Europeans will probably prefer to vacation in Europe this year. Simply because of less risk. Same goes for Americans. Better stay in the US then travel abroad. Regards |
Originally Posted by Dieuwer
(Post 32962836)
And where would this "efficient testing regime" be?
I think it is pie-in-the-sky to assume ANY country can handle thousands if not millions of tests for each passenger each day. Most countries already are buckling under the strain of having to test their own population. Good luck getting an appointment as an American in-time somewhere abroad. |
Originally Posted by freedom2020
(Post 32962875)
A pre-testing is like a foreign issued passport. If you really want to control something, you would require a visa, not a passport.
I can't believe air carriers pushed for this. How come a more restricted measure will bring more travelers? It's a closing down, not open up. Also, the thread title is misleading and is only speculation as there hasn't (that I know of) any official announcement of specifics. MAY require would be accurate currently. |
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