gruimed

I think it would be useful to have a thread where people can discuss lifting travel restrictions for those lucky ones who get vaccinated.

I only got the first shot, so need to wait a few more weeks, but quite eager to make use of it. So far I've only read about Cyprus opening borders for people who are vaccinated.

the810

Few European countries have some waivers in place for people who previously had Covid (I know about Iceland and Hungary), I imagine this will be extended to people who are vaccinated, as vaccine provides almost the same protection as natural immunity.

However, most countries don't make any exceptions based on individual's imunity. We will have to wait until epidemiological situation (or public perception of it) gets better to be able to travel normally again.

gruimed

I understand that. In the meanwhile, it would be interesting to gather information about such individual waivers...

13901

Lucky duck! Quick question, did you get any paperwork to confirm your vaccination?

gruimed

Not yet - still waiting for the second shot.

smartytravel

The WHO Chief Scientist confirmed that there�s no evidence Covid �vaccine� prevents transmission.

In other words, the travel restrictions will stay in place. The countries may start asking for tests results, but vaccine, as we now know, is not going to make a big difference.

gruimed

I hope that is not true. If it is, the international travel is dead for good.

Update: not just travel, but pretty much everything. Like every thing!

darkrider

Great thought starting this thread. In the USA you get a CDC card as proof of vaccination. The debate over whether or not the vaccine prevents transmission is considered controversial because data is still limited. It appears that folks vaccinated with Moderna would prevent spread. One would assume if that is true for Moderna, Pfizer would be similar, but they need more data. Hopefully countries will begin amending their testing/visitation requirements with proof of vaccination so this is a great idea to keep a list. With luck once more and more people get vaccinated there will be a big enough demand (and tourism opening) for countries to focus on opening up!

gruimed

As this thread diverted a bit (which is fine, but I still would like to keep the main purpose I started it), I'd like to remind everybody that according to the latest news Cyprus allows vaccinated travellers to avoid travel restrictions. Furthermore, apparently when I get back to Israel, I will not be quarantined. I hope more countries will follow.

invisible

My personal 2c in terms of predictions for next 3-6 months:

- APAC countries which are closed down and mandate every incoming visitor or returning resident to go in state administered/mandated quarantine, will continue to be closed down until 80-90% of their own population is vaccinated.

- EU will most likely open free entry for those who are vaccinated with vaccines approved in EU and have negative test results.

- US: most likely will open with negative test results, but vaccination requirement most likely will be dropped.

- rest of the world: individual approach.

evergrn

Cyprus is the only country so far?
I do hope more and more countries will join the list, but honestly we don�t know enough right now about the significance of being vaccinated as far as Covid goes and plus we are seeing these new strains.

I�m getting my second shot next week. I don�t know anyone personally who got any type of reaction to it (at least the first shot). The vaccination certificate you get is pocket-size. You don�t want to lose it.

MSPeconomist

Logically, being able to prove that one has been vaccinated (both shots) should negate the entry requirement of some countries that one must have (prove) or purchase insurance that covers COVID-19 health care costs in their country. Apparently what we do know about the vaccine is that ti would be extremely unlikely that someone who has been been vaccinated (both shots) would get a case with symptoms severe enough to require medical care.

BTW, the answer to my question above seems to be (according to another thread in this forum) that one will test positive on antibody tests after vaccination (although there might be specific types of antibody tests that could distinguish between those who had the vaccine versus those who had the disease, even if asymptomatic of course), but will not test positive on *currently used* PCR or antigen tests after either of the two vaccines that have approved for emergency use in the USA.

invisible

Countries which are closed down, do not admit visitors not because of potential need of taking care if a visitor gets sick, but because they don�t want a visitor bring virus in and make sick locals.

Well how this is different when someone already went thru Covid? They do have antibiotics but not virus.

darkrider

It depends on the type of test you get. If you get a PCR test then the vaccine will not give you a false positive.

ChiTown2

Further to this point, I am interested in what acceptable document for those who have had Covid can use for international travel. I have a positive antibody test but it would seem that my lab sheet might not be accepted.