Traveler arrested after flying SFO-LIH after positive result
Dec 5, 2020, 12:44 pm
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Potentially. We have no idea if this couple was on vacation, or, the reasons for their travel. People travel - it's a fact of life. To make a statement that someone shouldn't travel unless they have $100,000 set aside for travel expenses, or an additional $15,000 for a month's hotel stay is, dare I say, perhaps a bit of an elitist statement.
This is definitely an interesting side effect for people wanting to return *home* to our islands, as we do not have a lot of other options to safely head home... Well, none in fact.
This is definitely an interesting side effect for people wanting to return *home* to our islands, as we do not have a lot of other options to safely head home... Well, none in fact.
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Dec 5, 2020, 4:14 pm
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Potentially. We have no idea if this couple was on vacation, or, the reasons for their travel. People travel - it's a fact of life. To make a statement that someone shouldn't travel unless they have $100,000 set aside for travel expenses, or an additional $15,000 for a month's hotel stay is, dare I say, perhaps a bit of an elitist statement.
This is definitely an interesting side effect for people wanting to return *home* to our islands, as we do not have a lot of other options to safely head home... Well, none in fact.
This is definitely an interesting side effect for people wanting to return *home* to our islands, as we do not have a lot of other options to safely head home... Well, none in fact.
In my opinion they should be banned from United and the full weight of the law brought down on them. They knowingly risked the lives of others. In my eyes that is inexcusable.
Dec 5, 2020, 5:50 pm
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Potentially. We have no idea if this couple was on vacation, or, the reasons for their travel. People travel - it's a fact of life. To make a statement that someone shouldn't travel unless they have $100,000 set aside for travel expenses, or an additional $15,000 for a month's hotel stay is, dare I say, perhaps a bit of an elitist statement.
This is definitely an interesting side effect for people wanting to return *home* to our islands, as we do not have a lot of other options to safely head home... Well, none in fact.
This is definitely an interesting side effect for people wanting to return *home* to our islands, as we do not have a lot of other options to safely head home... Well, none in fact.
Dec 5, 2020, 5:54 pm
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I blame the SFO setup here. The way to do it is to get UA to prepare a new itinerary for two weeks and hand them a hotel key card on the spot. There's no drama and the people are in quarantine before they've even thought about it.
Edit: I thought they tested positive at the airport, just before the flight, but this is incorrect.
Last edited by cauchy; Dec 5, 2020 at 6:03 pm
Dec 5, 2020, 6:54 pm
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The other interesting issue is the Hawaii charge of "reckless endangering" - I don't see what that has to do with the State of Hawaii. The incident occurred in federal airspace, not within the jurisdiction of Hawaii, at all. In fact, their only actions within the jurisdiction of Hawaii was to walk from a plane to the checker folk, and drive home.
I'm not giving sympathy, but I feel they were effectively "trapped". Go home; where they have resources, and healthcare etc - or be stuck sleeping in an airport in San Francisco for a month.
Dec 5, 2020, 11:58 pm
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United endangers the innocents when they promote and encourage "safe" environment fully aware that people will not have any means to return to safety of home.
Lets get real - thousands of people refuse to test and fly anyways (aside from hawaii) and here we are fuming at some family that got caught. Focusing on scapegoats only turns attention away from the real problem.
Lets get real - thousands of people refuse to test and fly anyways (aside from hawaii) and here we are fuming at some family that got caught. Focusing on scapegoats only turns attention away from the real problem.
Dec 6, 2020, 3:51 pm
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United endangers the innocents when they promote and encourage "safe" environment fully aware that people will not have any means to return to safety of home.
Lets get real - thousands of people refuse to test and fly anyways (aside from hawaii) and here we are fuming at some family that got caught. Focusing on scapegoats only turns attention away from the real problem.
Lets get real - thousands of people refuse to test and fly anyways (aside from hawaii) and here we are fuming at some family that got caught. Focusing on scapegoats only turns attention away from the real problem.
Dec 7, 2020, 11:26 am
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If you read the fine print of what you're agreeing to when you fly, one of the things you're certifying is that you aren't awaiting the results of a Covid test. Presumably that's to avoid this very situation, where someone gets trapped in transit. It could certainly still happen, for example if you get tested during a long layover, but at least then there's an explicit acceptance of the risk of being stranded. This couple doesn't appear to have thought this through at all.