Vaccine tourism?
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Vaccine tourism?
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You can only come here if you have been vaccinated
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More reliable talk is far fewer than that number starting mid December targeting the elderly first.
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I just love that the NHS is rolling up its sleeves and ready to get this done, while a bunch of yahoos in the US are still arguing over whether the virus is a hoax.
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At the moment, there are no plans to vaccinate the whole population. It would be older, vulnerable and key workers, such as NHS employees first
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This said, I hope that our UK friends will at least THIS get done!
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My personal prediction is that generic population will get access to vaccine no early then end of March.
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There are precisely no plans (as in zero, zilch, nada) for vaccinating the part of the UK population that isn't a health worker, elderly or infirm. Which, as far as I'm concerned (I'm 30-something with no health issues) is fair. The morally correct thing is to protect the health workers and those who risk ending dead first.
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The UK's NHS apparently has detailed plans to start vaccinations en masse as early as Dec. 1 or whenever the vaccine becomes available, and will have access to 335 million doses. At two doses per person, that's enough for 167.5 million people -- and there are fewer than 70 million people in the UK.
This makes me wonder about the eventual possibility of vaccine tourism -- traveling overseas specifically to get vaccinated.
Are there other countries similarly well-positioned to administer lots of doses of the vaccine (and open to visitors)?
This makes me wonder about the eventual possibility of vaccine tourism -- traveling overseas specifically to get vaccinated.
Are there other countries similarly well-positioned to administer lots of doses of the vaccine (and open to visitors)?
Will private clinics/doctors in the UK have access to the vaccine for their patients/customers?
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So is the article in The Guardian that I linked to in the OP incorrect? It says the NHS are starting with 22 million vulnerable adults, "followed by the rest of the population." And that they've ordered 335 million doses.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...s-vaccinations
Why would they order 335 million doses if they only intend to vaccinate health workers, the elderly, and the infirm?
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...s-vaccinations
Why would they order 335 million doses if they only intend to vaccinate health workers, the elderly, and the infirm?
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I believe the article and the comments above are correct. I do not see them as contradictory
335m ordered for delivery over what time frame?
Plan to vaccinate everyone, start with the 22m most at risk, that starts early december. How long will that take? I reckon 3 months just for the 1st jabs.
335m ordered for delivery over what time frame?
Plan to vaccinate everyone, start with the 22m most at risk, that starts early december. How long will that take? I reckon 3 months just for the 1st jabs.
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So is the article in The Guardian that I linked to in the OP incorrect? It says the NHS are starting with 22 million vulnerable adults, "followed by the rest of the population." And that they've ordered 335 million doses.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...s-vaccinations
Why would they order 335 million doses if they only intend to vaccinate health workers, the elderly, and the infirm?
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...s-vaccinations
Why would they order 335 million doses if they only intend to vaccinate health workers, the elderly, and the infirm?
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I believe the article and the comments above are correct. I do not see them as contradictory
335m ordered for delivery over what time frame?
Plan to vaccinate everyone, start with the 22m most at risk, that starts early december. How long will that take? I reckon 3 months just for the 1st jabs.
335m ordered for delivery over what time frame?
Plan to vaccinate everyone, start with the 22m most at risk, that starts early december. How long will that take? I reckon 3 months just for the 1st jabs.
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I think your confusion may lie in the structure and span of the UK's orders. I don't doubt, to keep this more widely focused, that many other countries will have taken the same approach.
There are, of course, many different vaccines being researched. The UK hedged its bets by placing provisional orders with a number of different developers, recognising that not all of them would ever come to fruition - the irony being that one of the two announced thus far, Moderna, was not one of those with pre-orders. Some of those options, with very large orders against them, have not really progressed at all and are likely to be overtaken by events.
So of that 335m outstanding, the reality is that perhaps around a third might end up actually being deliverable, and that over many months. That's enough, in time, to vaccinate pretty much the whole adult population but it doesn't leave much over.
In terms of the question being asked on access to private sources - in the UK at least that's not likely to happen, so that's one country off the tourism map!
There are, of course, many different vaccines being researched. The UK hedged its bets by placing provisional orders with a number of different developers, recognising that not all of them would ever come to fruition - the irony being that one of the two announced thus far, Moderna, was not one of those with pre-orders. Some of those options, with very large orders against them, have not really progressed at all and are likely to be overtaken by events.
So of that 335m outstanding, the reality is that perhaps around a third might end up actually being deliverable, and that over many months. That's enough, in time, to vaccinate pretty much the whole adult population but it doesn't leave much over.
In terms of the question being asked on access to private sources - in the UK at least that's not likely to happen, so that's one country off the tourism map!
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I do believe that the UK government plans a mass vaccination.
I do not believe that means there is a detailed plan of how or when that will happen. I hope that makes sense.
Hence I agree with the article that the plan is a mass vaccination, however agree with 13901 that, as of today, there is no plan for vaccinating the part of the UK population that isn't a health worker, elderly or infirm