Best place to spend winter during a potential second wave of COVID?
Oct 11, 2020, 5:08 pm
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In ski news, it looks like Andorra is going all out to get ski tourists this winter.
https://www.lugaresdenieve.com/notic...-este-invierno
https://www.lugaresdenieve.com/notic...-este-invierno
Andorra is one of the best ski values in Europe, including for family ski trips. Tourism as a whole is nearly 80% of Andorra's GDP, and skiing is Andorra's primary tourism draw. So it's unlikely that they will pull a Norway when it comes to foreign visitors coming to ski this coming ski season.
Oct 12, 2020, 10:05 am
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Crowd sourcing here as it seems as good a place as any. Places we can spend 2 to 3 weeks for Christmas coming from California, with daughter coming from UK? She is a job that cannot be done WAH and only has 3 weeks leave so cannot quarantine.
Oct 12, 2020, 10:15 am
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Is she a UK or US citizen?
Oct 12, 2020, 10:16 am
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Hi VickySoCal,
To be honest I think this will be a problem especially for your daughter as the cases are rising here in Europe and the countries available for UK citizens to go to and come back without quarantining are getting smaller.
The two obvious ones ( Germany and Italy ) may have restrictions on visitors from the UK ( ie testing requirements). Sweden is currently ok but cases are rising so it could be added to the quarantine list.
You could visit the UK but would need 2 weeks quarantine on arrival in the UK.
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PS-There is talk of a UK-NY airbridge ( for Thanksgiving) but at the moment it is just talk.
Oct 12, 2020, 10:35 am
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Oct 12, 2020, 11:48 am
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Have you thought about Bermuda? For entry you'll need a PCR test before departure and then another upon arrival. You'd have to quarantine until receiving the second test results which they say is usually 24 hours but then you're pretty much free to do what you want. Additionally, no quarantine is required upon return to the UK from Bermuda.
Also considering whether she could come home for a week, then all of us go to one of the above for 2 weeks, then she returns to UK, we return to California.
That's going to be pretty pricey!
Oct 13, 2020, 5:50 am
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For the partisan of "Lombardy, Paris, NYC" will have herd immunity and be the safest, well: sames causes means same effects:
Oct 13, 2020, 12:38 pm
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Not sure where to put this but this is a place good as any.
Netherlands is tightening restrictions and going back to a semi lockdown
Netherlands is tightening restrictions and going back to a semi lockdown
New targeted restrictions designed to curb the rapidly increasing infection rates are expected to be introduced in the Netherlands this evening.
The rules appear to be focused on limiting social contacts, concentrating on places like bars and restaurants while schools and vital professions will remain virtually unaffected.
Experts at the Dutch Outbreak Management Team (OMT), who help to shape the Dutch government's approach to tackling Covid-19, consider the hospitality industry a hub where many infections still occur, especially among young people.
In an effort to stop house parties, shops are likely to be banned from selling alcohol after 20:00. Ordering drinks for delivery online is expected to be off limits too. This goes beyond the measures put in place during the first wave.
Limits will probably be placed on the number of visitors you can have at home, with a maximum of four people, both inside and outdoors.
Adult team sports are expected to be prohibited. Youth and professional games can apparently continue.
Traveling by public transport will be restricted to essential journeys. Only those considered to be working in the vital professions should leave home for work. Everyone else will be told to work from home.
The Netherlands recorded 6,854 new infections in the 24 hours to Monday morning. Approximately 1,298 patients are being treated in hospital, 252 in intensive care.
Prime Minister Mark Rutte is scheduled to hold a press conference at 19:00 (18:00 BST) and it is anticipated that the more stringent measures will come into effect from Wednesday.
Hospitality industry groups have said it could prove a "fatal blow" for some restaurants. But bar and cafe owners I've been speaking to in The Hague are still holding their breath and hoping the total closures will come with compensation from the state that will cushion the blow.
The rules appear to be focused on limiting social contacts, concentrating on places like bars and restaurants while schools and vital professions will remain virtually unaffected.
Experts at the Dutch Outbreak Management Team (OMT), who help to shape the Dutch government's approach to tackling Covid-19, consider the hospitality industry a hub where many infections still occur, especially among young people.
In an effort to stop house parties, shops are likely to be banned from selling alcohol after 20:00. Ordering drinks for delivery online is expected to be off limits too. This goes beyond the measures put in place during the first wave.
Limits will probably be placed on the number of visitors you can have at home, with a maximum of four people, both inside and outdoors.
Adult team sports are expected to be prohibited. Youth and professional games can apparently continue.
Traveling by public transport will be restricted to essential journeys. Only those considered to be working in the vital professions should leave home for work. Everyone else will be told to work from home.
The Netherlands recorded 6,854 new infections in the 24 hours to Monday morning. Approximately 1,298 patients are being treated in hospital, 252 in intensive care.
Prime Minister Mark Rutte is scheduled to hold a press conference at 19:00 (18:00 BST) and it is anticipated that the more stringent measures will come into effect from Wednesday.
Hospitality industry groups have said it could prove a "fatal blow" for some restaurants. But bar and cafe owners I've been speaking to in The Hague are still holding their breath and hoping the total closures will come with compensation from the state that will cushion the blow.
Oct 13, 2020, 12:48 pm
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Some states in Mexico banned alcohol for two months during the onset of the coronavirus. Then sales of alcohol were banned primarily on the weekend and here in Mexico City there's still a ban on alcohol sales at many grocery stores on the weekend, but some convenience stores will deliver alcohol via UberEats
Oct 14, 2020, 12:45 am
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Some states in Mexico banned alcohol for two months during the onset of the coronavirus. Then sales of alcohol were banned primarily on the weekend and here in Mexico City there's still a ban on alcohol sales at many grocery stores on the weekend, but some convenience stores will deliver alcohol via UberEats
Oct 14, 2020, 7:00 am
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For the purpose of reducing parties for the average person, not the extremes, it did work to some degree, especially since bars were closed too. For alcoholics not. It wasn't a prohibition. You can have alcohol you just couldn't buy it in certain dry areas. So, it wasn't a prohibition. Definitely not the same thing. It just wasn't easy to get, which was the purpose in implementing the law.
Oct 14, 2020, 7:17 am
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Bars/clubs/restaurants with dancing going on in Sweden -- particularly in Stockholm -- are in the spotlight for potential shutdown. The ability to shut them down can be done by shutting them down for social distancing violations. But another way to shut down such activity by different entities? Encumbering an alcohol-service license.
Oct 14, 2020, 7:27 am
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Bars/clubs/restaurants with dancing going on in Sweden -- particularly in Stockholm -- are in the spotlight for potential shutdown. The ability to shut them down can be done by shutting them down for social distancing violations. But another way to shut down such activity by different entities? Encumbering an alcohol-service license.
Oct 14, 2020, 8:24 am
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For the purpose of reducing parties for the average person, not the extremes, it did work to some degree, especially since bars were closed too. For alcoholics not. It wasn't a prohibition. You can have alcohol you just couldn't buy it in certain dry areas. So, it wasn't a prohibition. Definitely not the same thing. It just wasn't easy to get, which was the purpose in implementing the law.