warakorn

I have thought that an US citizen, residing in a "safe" non-EU Country (there is a list published by the European Commission), is allowed entry into the Schengen zone. Of course, he must travel directly from that "safe" country.
So, there is a way around this, however, JFK-FRA is a no-go.

flyertalker28120

So what are you suggesting? Routing through Canada is not an option due to the entry restriction there.

And even if he found such a safe third-party country, he would still be subject to a 14-day mandatory quarantine unless he stayed in that safe country for at least 14 days after leaving the US.

NewbieRunner

Two threads started by Gertjaars attempting to travel to Germany from the US for tourism have been merged. Please do not start separate threads on a similar subject.

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fotographer

may I suggest that you just wait, like most of usa based travelers until countries start lifting travel bans. We had 4 trips to Europe/England
all put on hold for now.. and besides.. not sure what is even open in Germany right now to see as a tourist.

Redhead

It's simple. Tourism should not be a goal right now. Sit tight, it sucks, but sit tight and let's get past the pandemic, then travel all you want. Trying to skirt around rules for tourism reasons is simply selfish

Admiral Ackbar

That's the spirit!

bigbellymonkey

I am gonna hook you up.

My friend just did it.
Fly to London. Get on Eurostar to Paris, you will clear immigration to Schengan in London and they are very lax. It`s best you stay 14 days outside of us first though.
Once in Paris, buy a ticket to Germany.

flyertalker28120

I think it may be of interest to some to clarify what are the risks of sneaking in?

What if you have an accident and your identity needs to be verified?

What if a pick pocket steals your wallet? You want to file a police report but that implies the police finds out you entered the country illegally?

What if you get sick? Will your travel insurances and health insurance provide coverage? Wouldn't they likely inquire about the purpose of your trip? Maybe you can't say you are there for business because then the insurance doesn't cover. Or may maybe you can't say you are there for leisure because the insurance knows you cannot legally enter as a tourist...

YYCCL3

If you can prove that you are a resident of Canada you should be able to enter without doing any tricks.

Call the Federal Police at FRA for advice. They are the ones who have to interpet the rules. The rules say as a Canadian resident you are allowed to enter.

airoli

but

Transpacificflyer

The person is not a resident of Canada. it appears that the intent is to travel via a Canada to circumvent the disease control regulations. The person should not expect to clear Canada unchallenged. The Canadian position is unchanged;
Only Canadian citizens, permanent residents, and certain foreign nationals travelling for essential purposesare able to enter Canada by air at this time. Discretionary or optional travel for recreation, or tourism is not allowed.
Yes, I know the tourism would not be in Canada, but it does not matter. This is not a Canadian resident. The rules are in place to stop this type of loop hole exploitation. It's because of efforts like this that many countries are so draconian with their travel bans.

YYCCL3

No need to yell at me. I'm not the one trying to circumvent the rules!

I did misread the initial post though, and after reading it again clearly OP is not admissible as a general tourist to any of the countries mentioned.

fransknorge

Illegal entry: fine, deportation, needs to answer “ I entered illegally” in possible future visa applications.
In short: a very bad idea.

For the insurance you will simply not be covered as you went against the regulations.

fransknorge

I regularly take the train Paris to Frankfurt, the border police always patrol the train at the border.

ss278

Even when you have documentation things can get sticky.

A friend is a professor at a local University. He is on sabbatical for the fall term and had plans to do research in England for five months this fall.,taking his wife and two middle-school aged children with him. They were going to live with family in the northwest part of the country while there.

He had arranged with the local school to enroll his kids. All paperwork signed, sealed, delivered. Their place of residence was confirmed. COVID tests for all family members (2 each) had come back negative. COVID tests, school paperwork, passports. work permits in hand they boarded their flight on the 16th of July.When they arrived at Heathrow they were held by UK Immigration for 14 hours while all of this was double-checked.

Immigration was "convinced" they would not leave the country when they were supposed to. Their passports were confiscated but were allowed to proceed to their quarantine residence (family) while the matter was "taken under advisement." Everything they presented to officials was confirmed however, because they were going to enroll their kids in school for a few months, so the story goes, UK Immigration still didn't believe they would leave. After one week they were summarily kicked out of the country. Got home yesterday.

It ain't easy these days.