May 28, 2020, 1:05 am
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Find out which countries are welcoming US tourists back (CNN) - Last updated April 22, 2021.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-international-travel-covid-19/index.html
IATA COVID-19 Regulations Map (clickable countries): https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php
Partial List of countries that will admit vaccinated tourists here (last updated Feb 22):
https://thepointsguy.com/guide/count...re-vaccinated/
Africa:
Morocco, Tanzania, Rwanda and Kenya - all now seem to be open but with a 72/96hr covid cert requirement
Seychelles - previously opened to vaccinated travelers in January, now open to all travelers; Visitors are required to present a negative PCR test taken 72 hours prior to departure, and visitors will still be required to adhere to other public health measures such as mask wearing, hand washing and social distancing. more info
Egypt - Must present negative COVID test taken within 96 hours prior to arrival - PAPER test results required, no digital copies accepted, 14-day quarantine only required if you test positive during stay. Restaurants at 50% capacity and masks required indoors and in public transportation. more info
Middle East
Jordan - negative test taken within 72 hours; complete passenger declaration form & locator form; second PCR test on arrival in Amman with the payment of JD 28 (children under the age of five are exempt); health insurance that covers COVID-19 treatment for the entire period of visit. more info here here and here
Caribbean:
Almost-daily updated summary of all Caribbean island requirements: GoogleDocs
Aruba - negative test within 72 hours mandatory for 24 states, while the other states can also take a test beforehand or be tested upon arrival. All visitors will be required to purchase Aruba insurance when filling out their arrival ED card. Any personal insurance will act as a supplement. more info
Bahamas - negative rt-pcr test with-in five days of arrival more info
Bermuda - negative test within five days of arrival along with a mandatory $75 online entry travel authorization form. Re-tested upon arrival, as well as on Day 3, 7 & 14. Temperature must be taken twice daily and reported online. more info
Jamaica - negative test within 3 days of the date of travels and travel authorization
Turks & Caicos - negative test within five days, as well as health insurance required more info
Europe:
Belarus - negative COVID-19 test result. The PCR test must be done no later than three days before the border crossing date (this period includes the date of border crossing); 21 October: required to self-isolate for 10 days upon the arrival in Belarus. more info
Croatia - Entry for tourism is permitted only with documentary evidence of an accommodation paid in advance and in full, prior to arrival at the border. Tourists must have a negative PCR test result not older than 48 hours from the time of the swab to crossing the border; or vaccination certificate; or positive test confirming recovery from infection; or testing immediately upon arrival in the Croatia (at their own expense), with the obligation to stay in self-isolation until the arrival of a negative test result. more info
Greece - As of April 19, residents of the United States are now allowed to enter Greece. All travelers entering Greece are required to present a negative molecular test result (PCR test) for COVID-19, performed up to 72 hours before their entry to Greece.Fully vaccinated individuals who are residents of the U.S. may enter Greece without a PCR test if they present a vaccination certificate. The vaccination certificate must be in English, issued by a public authority, and demonstrate that vaccination was completed at least 14 days before arrival to Greece. However, PCR tests may still be required for transit points. more info
Iceland - The Minister of Justice of Iceland has decided that the previously announced decision to exempt from travel restrictions those who can provide proof of vaccination or prior infection will take effect on 6 April. The change in regulation will allow travellers from non-Schengen countries, who meet the criteria, to travel to Iceland for non-essential reasons. Otherwise mandatory 5-6 day quarantine between 2 tests more info
Ireland - 14-day quarantine (self-isolation) on arrival
Malta - ok after 14-day quarantine in safe country (e.g. EU)
Moldova - entry allowed without quarantine etc if you hold vaccination certificate proof
Montenegro - negative PCR test no older than 72 hours US Embassy in Montenegro
Serbia - foreigners seeking to enter Serbia, U.S. citizens included, will need to provide a negative PCR test, not older than 48 hours more info
Slovenia - vaccinated adults or negative test within 48 hours can skip 10-days quarantine (children who accompany adults can also skip quarantine)
Turkey - negative PCR test within 72 hours prior to their flight
United Kingdom - negative test within 72 hours prior to departure plus 10-day self-isolation upon arrival from non-exempt countries (may be shortened after 5 days through Test to Release in England)
Asia:
Armenia - Travelers entering Armenia are asked to present the results of a PCR test taken within 72 hours prior to arrival or submit to a PCR test at the airport. Individuals who choose to take a PCR test and receive a negative result may be exempted from self-quarantine requirements.
Dubai - bring 96 hour PCR test and free to enter https://www.emirates.com/uk/english/...ling-to-dubai/
Georgia - unconditionally admitted to Georgia if they present a COVID-19 vaccine certificate confirming receipt of two full doses of the vaccine. Unvaccinated: Present a negative PCR test result taken within the past 72 hours; get a follow-up PCR test at their own expense on the third day after arrival in Georgia; complete an application form with contact details and travel history. more info
Kyrgyzstan - United States citizen travelers may now enter the country via international airports in Bishkek, Osh, and Issyk Kul. Requires travelers to have negative PCR test results, with the test taken no more than 72 hours before arrival into Kyrgyzstan. more info
Maldives - required to present a negative PCR certificate upon arrival. Traveler Health Declaration (THD) must be filled in and submitted within 24 hours prior to their travel. more info
Pakistan - get the online e-visa, also check if you need pcr test here: http://covid.gov.pk/intl_travellers/current_policies. For exiting pakistan, pcr test is required by almost all airlines done through specific labs (check airline website).
Thailand - Visa free entry good for 45 days. Also other visas. Need COE (Certificate of Entry) from Embassy, PCR test, insurance, 14-night quarantine at hotel/hospital. Details: https://thaiembdc.org/visas/
Uzbekistan - permitted to enter Uzbekistan but usually need a visa; negative PCR COVID-19 test is required for entry within 72 hours of the initiation of travel to Uzbekistan; arriving passengers must complete a health screening form upon arrival; arriving passengers are also subject to a rapid antigen test at the airport upon arrival regardless of PCR test status more info
North America:
Mexico
- Cancun area - https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/m...rus/index.html
- Puerto Vallarta - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32454183-post317.html
- Land borders open - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32421620-post171.html
Central America:
Costa Rica: does not request coronavirus screening tests nor does it issue sanitary confinement orders as requirements to enter the country by air. Health Pass can only be completed 48 hours before boarding. Tourists must purchase mandatory travel insurance that covers quarantine accommodation and medical expenses due to COVID-19 disease. more info
Panama: open to US resident with negative test within past 48 hours.
South America:
Brazil - the entry of foreign visitors traveling by air for a short stay of up to 90 days is currently permitted but beginning December 30, all travelers to Brazil by air (Brazilians and foreigners) must present 1) a negative/non reactive COVID-19 test as well as 2) proof of a completed Declaration of Traveler’s Health (DSV) to the airline responsible for the flight, before boarding. Level 4 DO NOT TRAVEL warning in effect
Chile - all travelers, including Chileans, foreign residents, accredited diplomats, and foreign tourists, must complete an obligatory 10-day quarantine upon their arrival to Chile. They will be able to leave quarantine with a negative PCR result based on a test taken on or after the seventh day in quarantine. Travelers must remain in quarantine while they await their result. more info
Colombia - travelers arriving to Colombia must present negative results from a COVID-19 PCR test administered no more than 96 hours prior to departure; travelers are expected to quarantine for 10 days or 7 days with a negative test 3-5 days after arrival. more info
Ecuador - all travelers (including minors) arriving in Ecuador must provide proof of a negative COVID RT-PCR or rapid antigen test taken no more than three (3) days before entering the country or present a vaccination card showing the traveler received a complete series of the COVID vaccine more info
Peru - inbound international passengers must have either a negative real-time COVID-19 molecular (RT-PCR), negative antigen test result, or a medical certificate of epidemiological discharge that is no more than 72 hours old after being issued and before boarding the plane. As of March 15, 2021, the Government of Peru announced that travelers who take an antigen test and receive a negative result after their first day of arrival may suspend the 14-day quarantine requirement. Travelers may take an antigen test at the airport, a local hospital, or any laboratory authorized by the Ministry of Health. Travelers who test positive must complete the 14-day quarantine.more info
Official government and airline pages for US travelers (in alphabetical order):
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-international-travel-covid-19/index.html
IATA COVID-19 Regulations Map (clickable countries): https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php
Partial List of countries that will admit vaccinated tourists here (last updated Feb 22):
https://thepointsguy.com/guide/count...re-vaccinated/
Africa:
Morocco, Tanzania, Rwanda and Kenya - all now seem to be open but with a 72/96hr covid cert requirement
Seychelles - previously opened to vaccinated travelers in January, now open to all travelers; Visitors are required to present a negative PCR test taken 72 hours prior to departure, and visitors will still be required to adhere to other public health measures such as mask wearing, hand washing and social distancing. more info
Egypt - Must present negative COVID test taken within 96 hours prior to arrival - PAPER test results required, no digital copies accepted, 14-day quarantine only required if you test positive during stay. Restaurants at 50% capacity and masks required indoors and in public transportation. more info
Middle East
Jordan - negative test taken within 72 hours; complete passenger declaration form & locator form; second PCR test on arrival in Amman with the payment of JD 28 (children under the age of five are exempt); health insurance that covers COVID-19 treatment for the entire period of visit. more info here here and here
Caribbean:
Almost-daily updated summary of all Caribbean island requirements: GoogleDocs
Aruba - negative test within 72 hours mandatory for 24 states, while the other states can also take a test beforehand or be tested upon arrival. All visitors will be required to purchase Aruba insurance when filling out their arrival ED card. Any personal insurance will act as a supplement. more info
Bahamas - negative rt-pcr test with-in five days of arrival more info
Bermuda - negative test within five days of arrival along with a mandatory $75 online entry travel authorization form. Re-tested upon arrival, as well as on Day 3, 7 & 14. Temperature must be taken twice daily and reported online. more info
Jamaica - negative test within 3 days of the date of travels and travel authorization
Turks & Caicos - negative test within five days, as well as health insurance required more info
Europe:
Belarus - negative COVID-19 test result. The PCR test must be done no later than three days before the border crossing date (this period includes the date of border crossing); 21 October: required to self-isolate for 10 days upon the arrival in Belarus. more info
Croatia - Entry for tourism is permitted only with documentary evidence of an accommodation paid in advance and in full, prior to arrival at the border. Tourists must have a negative PCR test result not older than 48 hours from the time of the swab to crossing the border; or vaccination certificate; or positive test confirming recovery from infection; or testing immediately upon arrival in the Croatia (at their own expense), with the obligation to stay in self-isolation until the arrival of a negative test result. more info
Greece - As of April 19, residents of the United States are now allowed to enter Greece. All travelers entering Greece are required to present a negative molecular test result (PCR test) for COVID-19, performed up to 72 hours before their entry to Greece.Fully vaccinated individuals who are residents of the U.S. may enter Greece without a PCR test if they present a vaccination certificate. The vaccination certificate must be in English, issued by a public authority, and demonstrate that vaccination was completed at least 14 days before arrival to Greece. However, PCR tests may still be required for transit points. more info
Iceland - The Minister of Justice of Iceland has decided that the previously announced decision to exempt from travel restrictions those who can provide proof of vaccination or prior infection will take effect on 6 April. The change in regulation will allow travellers from non-Schengen countries, who meet the criteria, to travel to Iceland for non-essential reasons. Otherwise mandatory 5-6 day quarantine between 2 tests more info
Ireland - 14-day quarantine (self-isolation) on arrival
Malta - ok after 14-day quarantine in safe country (e.g. EU)
Moldova - entry allowed without quarantine etc if you hold vaccination certificate proof
Montenegro - negative PCR test no older than 72 hours US Embassy in Montenegro
Serbia - foreigners seeking to enter Serbia, U.S. citizens included, will need to provide a negative PCR test, not older than 48 hours more info
Slovenia - vaccinated adults or negative test within 48 hours can skip 10-days quarantine (children who accompany adults can also skip quarantine)
Turkey - negative PCR test within 72 hours prior to their flight
United Kingdom - negative test within 72 hours prior to departure plus 10-day self-isolation upon arrival from non-exempt countries (may be shortened after 5 days through Test to Release in England)
Asia:
Armenia - Travelers entering Armenia are asked to present the results of a PCR test taken within 72 hours prior to arrival or submit to a PCR test at the airport. Individuals who choose to take a PCR test and receive a negative result may be exempted from self-quarantine requirements.
Dubai - bring 96 hour PCR test and free to enter https://www.emirates.com/uk/english/...ling-to-dubai/
Georgia - unconditionally admitted to Georgia if they present a COVID-19 vaccine certificate confirming receipt of two full doses of the vaccine. Unvaccinated: Present a negative PCR test result taken within the past 72 hours; get a follow-up PCR test at their own expense on the third day after arrival in Georgia; complete an application form with contact details and travel history. more info
Kyrgyzstan - United States citizen travelers may now enter the country via international airports in Bishkek, Osh, and Issyk Kul. Requires travelers to have negative PCR test results, with the test taken no more than 72 hours before arrival into Kyrgyzstan. more info
Maldives - required to present a negative PCR certificate upon arrival. Traveler Health Declaration (THD) must be filled in and submitted within 24 hours prior to their travel. more info
Pakistan - get the online e-visa, also check if you need pcr test here: http://covid.gov.pk/intl_travellers/current_policies. For exiting pakistan, pcr test is required by almost all airlines done through specific labs (check airline website).
Thailand - Visa free entry good for 45 days. Also other visas. Need COE (Certificate of Entry) from Embassy, PCR test, insurance, 14-night quarantine at hotel/hospital. Details: https://thaiembdc.org/visas/
Uzbekistan - permitted to enter Uzbekistan but usually need a visa; negative PCR COVID-19 test is required for entry within 72 hours of the initiation of travel to Uzbekistan; arriving passengers must complete a health screening form upon arrival; arriving passengers are also subject to a rapid antigen test at the airport upon arrival regardless of PCR test status more info
North America:
Mexico
- Cancun area - https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/m...rus/index.html
- Puerto Vallarta - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32454183-post317.html
- Land borders open - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32421620-post171.html
Central America:
Costa Rica: does not request coronavirus screening tests nor does it issue sanitary confinement orders as requirements to enter the country by air. Health Pass can only be completed 48 hours before boarding. Tourists must purchase mandatory travel insurance that covers quarantine accommodation and medical expenses due to COVID-19 disease. more info
Panama: open to US resident with negative test within past 48 hours.
South America:
Brazil - the entry of foreign visitors traveling by air for a short stay of up to 90 days is currently permitted but beginning December 30, all travelers to Brazil by air (Brazilians and foreigners) must present 1) a negative/non reactive COVID-19 test as well as 2) proof of a completed Declaration of Traveler’s Health (DSV) to the airline responsible for the flight, before boarding. Level 4 DO NOT TRAVEL warning in effect
Chile - all travelers, including Chileans, foreign residents, accredited diplomats, and foreign tourists, must complete an obligatory 10-day quarantine upon their arrival to Chile. They will be able to leave quarantine with a negative PCR result based on a test taken on or after the seventh day in quarantine. Travelers must remain in quarantine while they await their result. more info
Colombia - travelers arriving to Colombia must present negative results from a COVID-19 PCR test administered no more than 96 hours prior to departure; travelers are expected to quarantine for 10 days or 7 days with a negative test 3-5 days after arrival. more info
Ecuador - all travelers (including minors) arriving in Ecuador must provide proof of a negative COVID RT-PCR or rapid antigen test taken no more than three (3) days before entering the country or present a vaccination card showing the traveler received a complete series of the COVID vaccine more info
Peru - inbound international passengers must have either a negative real-time COVID-19 molecular (RT-PCR), negative antigen test result, or a medical certificate of epidemiological discharge that is no more than 72 hours old after being issued and before boarding the plane. As of March 15, 2021, the Government of Peru announced that travelers who take an antigen test and receive a negative result after their first day of arrival may suspend the 14-day quarantine requirement. Travelers may take an antigen test at the airport, a local hospital, or any laboratory authorized by the Ministry of Health. Travelers who test positive must complete the 14-day quarantine.more info
Official government and airline pages for US travelers (in alphabetical order):
- Croatia
- Germany
- German embassy In US page with rules for US travelers
- German Foreign Office page
- US Embassy in Germany page
- Quarantine requirements for travelers from risky countries (RKI page) (note: actual quarantine rules are state specific)
- Montenegro
- Portugal
- Thailand
Which countries are open for US tourists?
May 27, 2020, 8:03 am
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Hawaii is not keeping Americans out of Hawaii when it says that US mainland traffic arriving in Hawaii is subject to a quarantine on arrival. It’s just frustrating travel demand from those who are admissible and this is done by by providing a strong disincentive against visiting.
CBP determines admissibility into the US, and Hawaii determines which admitted persons do or do not have to go into a quarantine of sorts (on arrival in Hawaii) during a state-declared public health emergency.
CBP determines admissibility into the US, and Hawaii determines which admitted persons do or do not have to go into a quarantine of sorts (on arrival in Hawaii) during a state-declared public health emergency.
It will be politically untenable for Hawaii to require US citizens from the mainland to quarantine in a tiny hotel room for two weeks, while allowing travelers from other countries to enter with a COVID-clean test and mingle about. US citizens are barely accepting the inequity of treatment and enforcement between returning residents and travelers from the mainland. I'm actually stunned a career politician vocalized something like this at all, let alone during an election year. Unless Hawaii's looking to secede. (lol)
May 27, 2020, 8:53 am
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Americans seem to be very eager to travel. Just looked on the United app for today and all flights are choc full, with only a few seats left. (How is that social distancing?) UA 2354 as an example only has about 20 seats left on a 787-8. Similarly UA1419 has around 10 seats empty.
This is a pretty drastic difference to the attitudes of people here. EasyJet are starting back up in June and most flights are empty.
Very different social attitudes towards the pandemic.
This is a pretty drastic difference to the attitudes of people here. EasyJet are starting back up in June and most flights are empty.
Very different social attitudes towards the pandemic.
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May 27, 2020, 8:59 am
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May 27, 2020, 9:00 am
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Well a few days ago the flights were empty.
May 27, 2020, 9:15 am
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United has cut the schedule by 90%, causing all travelers to be put on a few flights. Also, United is blocking the middle seats until check-in or standby at the gate, so that will make a flight look a lot more full than it is.
Leisure travelers tend to book weeks/months in advance. The seats that you are saying filled in the last few days are likely filled by business travelers or airline personnel.
In my social circle I am the only one I know who has taken a flight in the last 2.5 months, and mine was for essential business, two short one-ways. Most Americans are not clamoring to fly all over. Most I have spoken to don't expect to fly anytime this summer. People here on Flyertalk are outside the norm of typical Americans.
Leisure travelers tend to book weeks/months in advance. The seats that you are saying filled in the last few days are likely filled by business travelers or airline personnel.
In my social circle I am the only one I know who has taken a flight in the last 2.5 months, and mine was for essential business, two short one-ways. Most Americans are not clamoring to fly all over. Most I have spoken to don't expect to fly anytime this summer. People here on Flyertalk are outside the norm of typical Americans.
May 27, 2020, 9:21 am
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May 27, 2020, 11:26 am
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Hawaii is currently imposing a 14 day quarantine on visitors from the mainland. In addition to this, Hawaii's Lt. Governor actually proposed yesterday letting visitors into the State of Hawaii this summer from Japan, New Zealand, and Australia, BEFORE letting U.S. citizens in from the mainland (without quarantine) into the state.
Has Hawaii seceded from the United States?
As for me, I've accepted that I won't be traveling outside of the US for some time and am exploring some different options for travel within the US.
May 27, 2020, 11:39 am
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The title of this thread is, "US Tourists who want to go abroad in June, 2020 - What Countries are options?"
Has Hawaii seceded from the United States?
As for me, I've accepted that I won't be traveling outside of the US for some time and am exploring some different options for travel within the US.
Has Hawaii seceded from the United States?
As for me, I've accepted that I won't be traveling outside of the US for some time and am exploring some different options for travel within the US.
Plus I pleaded earlier in this thread, for folks to please keep it on topic, to no avail. So I gave up, gave in, and joined the crowd. LoL. 😁
May 27, 2020, 12:09 pm
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So to get the thread back on track, we have: Belarus, Tanzania, US Virgin Islands, parts of Mexico, St Lucia, and then possibly Iceland (with negative covid test) after June 15th.
Am I missing anything?
Am I missing anything?
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May 27, 2020, 12:51 pm
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Below is a link to an article that was on CNBC this morning regarding European countries open for summer travel from the US
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/26/here...is-summer.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/26/here...is-summer.html
May 27, 2020, 12:58 pm
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this article is totally misleading. It doesn’t even mention the fact that those dates of borders reopening is only for intra-European travel. Non-Schengen travel is currently banned until June 15 but it will likely be extended, unfortunately. And you can expect some reciprocity with US ban for EU travelers. I mean that the US-EU ban will have to be lifted at the same time on both sides of the pond.
May 27, 2020, 1:16 pm
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Until the non-Schengen ban is lifted :
- an American flying USA- CDG- FCO will be blocked in CDG as this is where he enters the Schengen area (in practice he will not even leave the US as the airline will not let him board the flight to CDG)
- an American flying USA- LHR-BCN will be blocked in BCN as this is where he enters the Schengen area (I could add the same comment as above : in practice he will not even leave the US as the airline will not let him board the flight to LHR knowing that he is connecting to Schengen)
May 27, 2020, 1:22 pm
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supposedly also St. Lucia -- with negative Covid test and reduced activities / restrictions. But still a possible option if folks don't mind being mainly at their resort & being temperature checked at meals, among other things.
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May 27, 2020, 1:33 pm
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of course not. How can you imagine that such a loophole could exist ?
Until the non-Schengen ban is lifted :
- an American flying USA- CDG- FCO will be blocked in CDG as this is where he enters the Schengen area (in practice he will not even leave the US as the airline will not let him board the flight to CDG)
- an American flying USA- LHR-BCN will be blocked in BCN as this is where he enters the Schengen area (I could add the same comment as above : in practice he will not even leave the US as the airline will not let him board the flight to LHR knowing that he is connecting to Schengen)
Until the non-Schengen ban is lifted :
- an American flying USA- CDG- FCO will be blocked in CDG as this is where he enters the Schengen area (in practice he will not even leave the US as the airline will not let him board the flight to CDG)
- an American flying USA- LHR-BCN will be blocked in BCN as this is where he enters the Schengen area (I could add the same comment as above : in practice he will not even leave the US as the airline will not let him board the flight to LHR knowing that he is connecting to Schengen)
I've canceled 3 trips this year and have another one in mid July, to LHR and then separate ticket to Switzerland and back to LHR. That likely won't happen either.
