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Find out which countries are welcoming US tourists back (CNN) - Last updated April 22, 2021.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-international-travel-covid-19/index.html
IATA COVID-19 Regulations Map (clickable countries): https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php
Partial List of countries that will admit vaccinated tourists here (last updated Feb 22):
https://thepointsguy.com/guide/count...re-vaccinated/
Africa:
Morocco, Tanzania, Rwanda and Kenya - all now seem to be open but with a 72/96hr covid cert requirement
Seychelles - previously opened to vaccinated travelers in January, now open to all travelers; Visitors are required to present a negative PCR test taken 72 hours prior to departure, and visitors will still be required to adhere to other public health measures such as mask wearing, hand washing and social distancing. more info
Egypt - Must present negative COVID test taken within 96 hours prior to arrival - PAPER test results required, no digital copies accepted, 14-day quarantine only required if you test positive during stay. Restaurants at 50% capacity and masks required indoors and in public transportation. more info
Middle East
Jordan - negative test taken within 72 hours; complete passenger declaration form & locator form; second PCR test on arrival in Amman with the payment of JD 28 (children under the age of five are exempt); health insurance that covers COVID-19 treatment for the entire period of visit. more info here here and here
Caribbean:
Almost-daily updated summary of all Caribbean island requirements: GoogleDocs
Aruba - negative test within 72 hours mandatory for 24 states, while the other states can also take a test beforehand or be tested upon arrival. All visitors will be required to purchase Aruba insurance when filling out their arrival ED card. Any personal insurance will act as a supplement. more info
Bahamas - negative rt-pcr test with-in five days of arrival more info
Bermuda - negative test within five days of arrival along with a mandatory $75 online entry travel authorization form. Re-tested upon arrival, as well as on Day 3, 7 & 14. Temperature must be taken twice daily and reported online. more info
Jamaica - negative test within 3 days of the date of travels and travel authorization
Turks & Caicos - negative test within five days, as well as health insurance required more info
Europe:
Belarus - negative COVID-19 test result. The PCR test must be done no later than three days before the border crossing date (this period includes the date of border crossing); 21 October: required to self-isolate for 10 days upon the arrival in Belarus. more info
Croatia - Entry for tourism is permitted only with documentary evidence of an accommodation paid in advance and in full, prior to arrival at the border. Tourists must have a negative PCR test result not older than 48 hours from the time of the swab to crossing the border; or vaccination certificate; or positive test confirming recovery from infection; or testing immediately upon arrival in the Croatia (at their own expense), with the obligation to stay in self-isolation until the arrival of a negative test result. more info
Greece - As of April 19, residents of the United States are now allowed to enter Greece. All travelers entering Greece are required to present a negative molecular test result (PCR test) for COVID-19, performed up to 72 hours before their entry to Greece.Fully vaccinated individuals who are residents of the U.S. may enter Greece without a PCR test if they present a vaccination certificate. The vaccination certificate must be in English, issued by a public authority, and demonstrate that vaccination was completed at least 14 days before arrival to Greece. However, PCR tests may still be required for transit points. more info
Iceland - The Minister of Justice of Iceland has decided that the previously announced decision to exempt from travel restrictions those who can provide proof of vaccination or prior infection will take effect on 6 April. The change in regulation will allow travellers from non-Schengen countries, who meet the criteria, to travel to Iceland for non-essential reasons. Otherwise mandatory 5-6 day quarantine between 2 tests more info
Ireland - 14-day quarantine (self-isolation) on arrival
Malta - ok after 14-day quarantine in safe country (e.g. EU)
Moldova - entry allowed without quarantine etc if you hold vaccination certificate proof
Montenegro - negative PCR test no older than 72 hours US Embassy in Montenegro
Serbia - foreigners seeking to enter Serbia, U.S. citizens included, will need to provide a negative PCR test, not older than 48 hours more info
Slovenia - vaccinated adults or negative test within 48 hours can skip 10-days quarantine (children who accompany adults can also skip quarantine)
Turkey - negative PCR test within 72 hours prior to their flight
United Kingdom - negative test within 72 hours prior to departure plus 10-day self-isolation upon arrival from non-exempt countries (may be shortened after 5 days through Test to Release in England)
Asia:
Armenia - Travelers entering Armenia are asked to present the results of a PCR test taken within 72 hours prior to arrival or submit to a PCR test at the airport. Individuals who choose to take a PCR test and receive a negative result may be exempted from self-quarantine requirements.
Dubai - bring 96 hour PCR test and free to enter https://www.emirates.com/uk/english/...ling-to-dubai/
Georgia - unconditionally admitted to Georgia if they present a COVID-19 vaccine certificate confirming receipt of two full doses of the vaccine. Unvaccinated: Present a negative PCR test result taken within the past 72 hours; get a follow-up PCR test at their own expense on the third day after arrival in Georgia; complete an application form with contact details and travel history. more info
Kyrgyzstan - United States citizen travelers may now enter the country via international airports in Bishkek, Osh, and Issyk Kul. Requires travelers to have negative PCR test results, with the test taken no more than 72 hours before arrival into Kyrgyzstan. more info
Maldives - required to present a negative PCR certificate upon arrival. Traveler Health Declaration (THD) must be filled in and submitted within 24 hours prior to their travel. more info
Pakistan - get the online e-visa, also check if you need pcr test here: http://covid.gov.pk/intl_travellers/current_policies. For exiting pakistan, pcr test is required by almost all airlines done through specific labs (check airline website).
Thailand - Visa free entry good for 45 days. Also other visas. Need COE (Certificate of Entry) from Embassy, PCR test, insurance, 14-night quarantine at hotel/hospital. Details: https://thaiembdc.org/visas/
Uzbekistan - permitted to enter Uzbekistan but usually need a visa; negative PCR COVID-19 test is required for entry within 72 hours of the initiation of travel to Uzbekistan; arriving passengers must complete a health screening form upon arrival; arriving passengers are also subject to a rapid antigen test at the airport upon arrival regardless of PCR test status more info
North America:
Mexico
- Cancun area - https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/m...rus/index.html
- Puerto Vallarta - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32454183-post317.html
- Land borders open - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32421620-post171.html
Central America:
Costa Rica: does not request coronavirus screening tests nor does it issue sanitary confinement orders as requirements to enter the country by air. Health Pass can only be completed 48 hours before boarding. Tourists must purchase mandatory travel insurance that covers quarantine accommodation and medical expenses due to COVID-19 disease. more info
Panama: open to US resident with negative test within past 48 hours.
South America:
Brazil - the entry of foreign visitors traveling by air for a short stay of up to 90 days is currently permitted but beginning December 30, all travelers to Brazil by air (Brazilians and foreigners) must present 1) a negative/non reactive COVID-19 test as well as 2) proof of a completed Declaration of Traveler’s Health (DSV) to the airline responsible for the flight, before boarding. Level 4 DO NOT TRAVEL warning in effect
Chile - all travelers, including Chileans, foreign residents, accredited diplomats, and foreign tourists, must complete an obligatory 10-day quarantine upon their arrival to Chile. They will be able to leave quarantine with a negative PCR result based on a test taken on or after the seventh day in quarantine. Travelers must remain in quarantine while they await their result. more info
Colombia - travelers arriving to Colombia must present negative results from a COVID-19 PCR test administered no more than 96 hours prior to departure; travelers are expected to quarantine for 10 days or 7 days with a negative test 3-5 days after arrival. more info
Ecuador - all travelers (including minors) arriving in Ecuador must provide proof of a negative COVID RT-PCR or rapid antigen test taken no more than three (3) days before entering the country or present a vaccination card showing the traveler received a complete series of the COVID vaccine more info
Peru - inbound international passengers must have either a negative real-time COVID-19 molecular (RT-PCR), negative antigen test result, or a medical certificate of epidemiological discharge that is no more than 72 hours old after being issued and before boarding the plane. As of March 15, 2021, the Government of Peru announced that travelers who take an antigen test and receive a negative result after their first day of arrival may suspend the 14-day quarantine requirement. Travelers may take an antigen test at the airport, a local hospital, or any laboratory authorized by the Ministry of Health. Travelers who test positive must complete the 14-day quarantine.more info
Official government and airline pages for US travelers (in alphabetical order):
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-international-travel-covid-19/index.html
IATA COVID-19 Regulations Map (clickable countries): https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php
Partial List of countries that will admit vaccinated tourists here (last updated Feb 22):
https://thepointsguy.com/guide/count...re-vaccinated/
Africa:
Morocco, Tanzania, Rwanda and Kenya - all now seem to be open but with a 72/96hr covid cert requirement
Seychelles - previously opened to vaccinated travelers in January, now open to all travelers; Visitors are required to present a negative PCR test taken 72 hours prior to departure, and visitors will still be required to adhere to other public health measures such as mask wearing, hand washing and social distancing. more info
Egypt - Must present negative COVID test taken within 96 hours prior to arrival - PAPER test results required, no digital copies accepted, 14-day quarantine only required if you test positive during stay. Restaurants at 50% capacity and masks required indoors and in public transportation. more info
Middle East
Jordan - negative test taken within 72 hours; complete passenger declaration form & locator form; second PCR test on arrival in Amman with the payment of JD 28 (children under the age of five are exempt); health insurance that covers COVID-19 treatment for the entire period of visit. more info here here and here
Caribbean:
Almost-daily updated summary of all Caribbean island requirements: GoogleDocs
Aruba - negative test within 72 hours mandatory for 24 states, while the other states can also take a test beforehand or be tested upon arrival. All visitors will be required to purchase Aruba insurance when filling out their arrival ED card. Any personal insurance will act as a supplement. more info
Bahamas - negative rt-pcr test with-in five days of arrival more info
Bermuda - negative test within five days of arrival along with a mandatory $75 online entry travel authorization form. Re-tested upon arrival, as well as on Day 3, 7 & 14. Temperature must be taken twice daily and reported online. more info
Jamaica - negative test within 3 days of the date of travels and travel authorization
Turks & Caicos - negative test within five days, as well as health insurance required more info
Europe:
Belarus - negative COVID-19 test result. The PCR test must be done no later than three days before the border crossing date (this period includes the date of border crossing); 21 October: required to self-isolate for 10 days upon the arrival in Belarus. more info
Croatia - Entry for tourism is permitted only with documentary evidence of an accommodation paid in advance and in full, prior to arrival at the border. Tourists must have a negative PCR test result not older than 48 hours from the time of the swab to crossing the border; or vaccination certificate; or positive test confirming recovery from infection; or testing immediately upon arrival in the Croatia (at their own expense), with the obligation to stay in self-isolation until the arrival of a negative test result. more info
Greece - As of April 19, residents of the United States are now allowed to enter Greece. All travelers entering Greece are required to present a negative molecular test result (PCR test) for COVID-19, performed up to 72 hours before their entry to Greece.Fully vaccinated individuals who are residents of the U.S. may enter Greece without a PCR test if they present a vaccination certificate. The vaccination certificate must be in English, issued by a public authority, and demonstrate that vaccination was completed at least 14 days before arrival to Greece. However, PCR tests may still be required for transit points. more info
Iceland - The Minister of Justice of Iceland has decided that the previously announced decision to exempt from travel restrictions those who can provide proof of vaccination or prior infection will take effect on 6 April. The change in regulation will allow travellers from non-Schengen countries, who meet the criteria, to travel to Iceland for non-essential reasons. Otherwise mandatory 5-6 day quarantine between 2 tests more info
Ireland - 14-day quarantine (self-isolation) on arrival
Malta - ok after 14-day quarantine in safe country (e.g. EU)
Moldova - entry allowed without quarantine etc if you hold vaccination certificate proof
Montenegro - negative PCR test no older than 72 hours US Embassy in Montenegro
Serbia - foreigners seeking to enter Serbia, U.S. citizens included, will need to provide a negative PCR test, not older than 48 hours more info
Slovenia - vaccinated adults or negative test within 48 hours can skip 10-days quarantine (children who accompany adults can also skip quarantine)
Turkey - negative PCR test within 72 hours prior to their flight
United Kingdom - negative test within 72 hours prior to departure plus 10-day self-isolation upon arrival from non-exempt countries (may be shortened after 5 days through Test to Release in England)
Asia:
Armenia - Travelers entering Armenia are asked to present the results of a PCR test taken within 72 hours prior to arrival or submit to a PCR test at the airport. Individuals who choose to take a PCR test and receive a negative result may be exempted from self-quarantine requirements.
Dubai - bring 96 hour PCR test and free to enter https://www.emirates.com/uk/english/...ling-to-dubai/
Georgia - unconditionally admitted to Georgia if they present a COVID-19 vaccine certificate confirming receipt of two full doses of the vaccine. Unvaccinated: Present a negative PCR test result taken within the past 72 hours; get a follow-up PCR test at their own expense on the third day after arrival in Georgia; complete an application form with contact details and travel history. more info
Kyrgyzstan - United States citizen travelers may now enter the country via international airports in Bishkek, Osh, and Issyk Kul. Requires travelers to have negative PCR test results, with the test taken no more than 72 hours before arrival into Kyrgyzstan. more info
Maldives - required to present a negative PCR certificate upon arrival. Traveler Health Declaration (THD) must be filled in and submitted within 24 hours prior to their travel. more info
Pakistan - get the online e-visa, also check if you need pcr test here: http://covid.gov.pk/intl_travellers/current_policies. For exiting pakistan, pcr test is required by almost all airlines done through specific labs (check airline website).
Thailand - Visa free entry good for 45 days. Also other visas. Need COE (Certificate of Entry) from Embassy, PCR test, insurance, 14-night quarantine at hotel/hospital. Details: https://thaiembdc.org/visas/
Uzbekistan - permitted to enter Uzbekistan but usually need a visa; negative PCR COVID-19 test is required for entry within 72 hours of the initiation of travel to Uzbekistan; arriving passengers must complete a health screening form upon arrival; arriving passengers are also subject to a rapid antigen test at the airport upon arrival regardless of PCR test status more info
North America:
Mexico
- Cancun area - https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/m...rus/index.html
- Puerto Vallarta - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32454183-post317.html
- Land borders open - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32421620-post171.html
Central America:
Costa Rica: does not request coronavirus screening tests nor does it issue sanitary confinement orders as requirements to enter the country by air. Health Pass can only be completed 48 hours before boarding. Tourists must purchase mandatory travel insurance that covers quarantine accommodation and medical expenses due to COVID-19 disease. more info
Panama: open to US resident with negative test within past 48 hours.
South America:
Brazil - the entry of foreign visitors traveling by air for a short stay of up to 90 days is currently permitted but beginning December 30, all travelers to Brazil by air (Brazilians and foreigners) must present 1) a negative/non reactive COVID-19 test as well as 2) proof of a completed Declaration of Traveler’s Health (DSV) to the airline responsible for the flight, before boarding. Level 4 DO NOT TRAVEL warning in effect
Chile - all travelers, including Chileans, foreign residents, accredited diplomats, and foreign tourists, must complete an obligatory 10-day quarantine upon their arrival to Chile. They will be able to leave quarantine with a negative PCR result based on a test taken on or after the seventh day in quarantine. Travelers must remain in quarantine while they await their result. more info
Colombia - travelers arriving to Colombia must present negative results from a COVID-19 PCR test administered no more than 96 hours prior to departure; travelers are expected to quarantine for 10 days or 7 days with a negative test 3-5 days after arrival. more info
Ecuador - all travelers (including minors) arriving in Ecuador must provide proof of a negative COVID RT-PCR or rapid antigen test taken no more than three (3) days before entering the country or present a vaccination card showing the traveler received a complete series of the COVID vaccine more info
Peru - inbound international passengers must have either a negative real-time COVID-19 molecular (RT-PCR), negative antigen test result, or a medical certificate of epidemiological discharge that is no more than 72 hours old after being issued and before boarding the plane. As of March 15, 2021, the Government of Peru announced that travelers who take an antigen test and receive a negative result after their first day of arrival may suspend the 14-day quarantine requirement. Travelers may take an antigen test at the airport, a local hospital, or any laboratory authorized by the Ministry of Health. Travelers who test positive must complete the 14-day quarantine.more info
Official government and airline pages for US travelers (in alphabetical order):
- Croatia
- Germany
- German embassy In US page with rules for US travelers
- German Foreign Office page
- US Embassy in Germany page
- Quarantine requirements for travelers from risky countries (RKI page) (note: actual quarantine rules are state specific)
- Montenegro
- Portugal
- Thailand
Which countries are open for US tourists?
Feb 15, 2021, 5:17 pm
#2011
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Location: SJC
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Posts: 994
Americans, where are we going (or not) in Summer 2021?
We're approaching the point where people start giving serious thought to summer plans. Some of my stream of consciousness thoughts:
1. For any international travel, vaccination before departure is an absolute must, even if no one requires it. And FWIW I do think many countries (outside of Mexico and some Carib islands woefully dependent on low-rent US tourism) will soon require it for Summer 2021 nonessential travel.
2. As a vaccinated traveler myself, I'll favor destinations that allow people like me to travel without restrictions (beyond requiring proof of vaccination). I'm not in favor of 5011 brain swabs or the vagaries of antigen tests. And I'll still zealously abide social distancing, etc. as best I can.
3. re: I think Schengen Europe and Canada will remain off the table for Americans (and vice versa) until at least September 1st -- those travel flows should resume during a less busy period. If any longhaul travel is safe and smart for Americans, I think countries like Israel, Serbia, and Georgia will be the smartest moves to make (all three are destinations where good sightseeing can be had while social distancing, Israel and Serbia will have fairly high vax rates by summer, while Georgia is allowing all vaccinated travelers without restrictions and is cost effective for a longer than planned stay if the test to return home comes back positive).
4. As much as possible, I'm focused on burning vouchers then miles, no cash out of pocket on airline tickets to the maximum extent possible.
Those are my opener thoughts, what say you?
1. For any international travel, vaccination before departure is an absolute must, even if no one requires it. And FWIW I do think many countries (outside of Mexico and some Carib islands woefully dependent on low-rent US tourism) will soon require it for Summer 2021 nonessential travel.
2. As a vaccinated traveler myself, I'll favor destinations that allow people like me to travel without restrictions (beyond requiring proof of vaccination). I'm not in favor of 5011 brain swabs or the vagaries of antigen tests. And I'll still zealously abide social distancing, etc. as best I can.
3. re: I think Schengen Europe and Canada will remain off the table for Americans (and vice versa) until at least September 1st -- those travel flows should resume during a less busy period. If any longhaul travel is safe and smart for Americans, I think countries like Israel, Serbia, and Georgia will be the smartest moves to make (all three are destinations where good sightseeing can be had while social distancing, Israel and Serbia will have fairly high vax rates by summer, while Georgia is allowing all vaccinated travelers without restrictions and is cost effective for a longer than planned stay if the test to return home comes back positive).
4. As much as possible, I'm focused on burning vouchers then miles, no cash out of pocket on airline tickets to the maximum extent possible.
Those are my opener thoughts, what say you?
Feb 15, 2021, 5:40 pm
#2013
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
reviving an old thread just left mexico city to the us they have a covid testing at door F3 in Terminal 1 ( where american airlines is) it was super easy and took about 15 minutes for the result I just popped the result into the verifly app(american airlines) and got a green checkmark in 5 minutes. still had to wait in line to get a boarding pass which was really backed up since most people didnt use this app. hopefully we can add more travel this upcoming summer!
btw antigen test is 750 pesos (15-20 minute) and pcr is 2000 (24 hour result)
btw antigen test is 750 pesos (15-20 minute) and pcr is 2000 (24 hour result)
If you had done the test ahead of time, do you think you could have gotten your bp before going to the airport?
Feb 15, 2021, 6:03 pm
#2014
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP.
Posts: 1,325
Currently to return to the US only antigen is required.
if youre coming into the US like I am antigen works fine
I don't think so as I turned everything in through verifly then checked in after it gave me the green light. Maybe other airlines will work but AA should really connect Verifly to Check-In to speed the process up or at least have the agents at the self check in desks be there to verify it instead of having us wait in line.
Also just in my own experience I walked into a clinic in the city initially nd I got really lightheaded and dizzy because it was a real urgent care with a lot of patients in an old building so I decided to just go to the airport early in case of a line and just do it there since I had an idea of how it was going to down. My friend who just left Cabo said their hotel the Thompson Cape hotel (Hyatt) provided them with a free antigen test.
if youre coming into the US like I am antigen works fine
Also just in my own experience I walked into a clinic in the city initially nd I got really lightheaded and dizzy because it was a real urgent care with a lot of patients in an old building so I decided to just go to the airport early in case of a line and just do it there since I had an idea of how it was going to down. My friend who just left Cabo said their hotel the Thompson Cape hotel (Hyatt) provided them with a free antigen test.
Last edited by Amil; Feb 15, 2021 at 6:11 pm
Feb 17, 2021, 12:03 pm
#2015
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 30,009
Looks like covid test for entrance into Turkey ends March 1st.
Feb 17, 2021, 3:26 pm
#2016
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Posts: 10,908
given sharp covid decline observed for example in US or India and vaccination rollout my guess we will see a lot of places open (except those that took shutdown approach eg AUS, NZ, CN etc)..
Feb 17, 2021, 7:19 pm
#2017
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We're approaching the point where people start giving serious thought to summer plans. Some of my stream of consciousness thoughts:
1. For any international travel, vaccination before departure is an absolute must, even if no one requires it. And FWIW I do think many countries (outside of Mexico and some Carib islands woefully dependent on low-rent US tourism) will soon require it for Summer 2021 nonessential travel.
2. As a vaccinated traveler myself, I'll favor destinations that allow people like me to travel without restrictions (beyond requiring proof of vaccination). I'm not in favor of 5011 brain swabs or the vagaries of antigen tests. And I'll still zealously abide social distancing, etc. as best I can.
3. re: I think Schengen Europe and Canada will remain off the table for Americans (and vice versa) until at least September 1st -- those travel flows should resume during a less busy period. If any longhaul travel is safe and smart for Americans, I think countries like Israel, Serbia, and Georgia will be the smartest moves to make (all three are destinations where good sightseeing can be had while social distancing, Israel and Serbia will have fairly high vax rates by summer, while Georgia is allowing all vaccinated travelers without restrictions and is cost effective for a longer than planned stay if the test to return home comes back positive).
4. As much as possible, I'm focused on burning vouchers then miles, no cash out of pocket on airline tickets to the maximum extent possible.
Those are my opener thoughts, what say you?
1. For any international travel, vaccination before departure is an absolute must, even if no one requires it. And FWIW I do think many countries (outside of Mexico and some Carib islands woefully dependent on low-rent US tourism) will soon require it for Summer 2021 nonessential travel.
2. As a vaccinated traveler myself, I'll favor destinations that allow people like me to travel without restrictions (beyond requiring proof of vaccination). I'm not in favor of 5011 brain swabs or the vagaries of antigen tests. And I'll still zealously abide social distancing, etc. as best I can.
3. re: I think Schengen Europe and Canada will remain off the table for Americans (and vice versa) until at least September 1st -- those travel flows should resume during a less busy period. If any longhaul travel is safe and smart for Americans, I think countries like Israel, Serbia, and Georgia will be the smartest moves to make (all three are destinations where good sightseeing can be had while social distancing, Israel and Serbia will have fairly high vax rates by summer, while Georgia is allowing all vaccinated travelers without restrictions and is cost effective for a longer than planned stay if the test to return home comes back positive).
4. As much as possible, I'm focused on burning vouchers then miles, no cash out of pocket on airline tickets to the maximum extent possible.
Those are my opener thoughts, what say you?
That said, my thoughts:
(1) Vaccine before summer does not look promising for most US residents <65. Maybe a few states will open up but they seem more interested now in focusing on the hard to reach seniors, special groups (disabled) and prisoners (CA) so healthy adults are not moving up the priority list. And children are not even on the list so child vaccines are surely a no go this summer.
Given what's not know about new variants I seriously doubt most seniors will be traveling internationally this summer (excepting a few ambitious FTers). So I'm not sure vaccination will be part of the calculation.
(2) Even with vax most countries require a pre-entry test and the USA requires a pre-boarding test before you return. So good luck with avoiding that. Rather silly IMO as I've had 4 myself. There are many, many worse things in life.
(3) Agreed on Schengen zone, unless Greece and Iceland decide to bolt. I don't see that happening but who knows. Economic calamity is a strong motivator. I am booked for Israel so I've already placed my bets.
(4) This is like saying the sun will come up every day. Of course, the problem is that AirBnb is extremely popular now for many reasons (safety for sure) and they don't take miles. Also I think many of us are loathe to spend points and miles if the ROI is low. I normally get 3-4 cents per mile I'm not going to redeem at 1 cent just to avoid a voucher if I decide to cancel. Ditto for hotels. That said, if you find a trip with a great ROI it is a no brainer to book with miles and points.
Feb 17, 2021, 8:03 pm
#2018
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,639
FWIW I'm much more optimistic about the USA vaccination situation. I have little doubt that the current administration's goal is to make sure that every available dose is injected into an arm ASAP, and it appears to be aggressively expanding the number of people and places for those shots to happen.
Somewhat more subject to debate, my read of the news is that the vaccine supply is also significantly increasing 'as we speak'. As that happens, the system will have little trouble serving priority candidates and the focus will change to getting as many arms as the system can handle to show up. As long as there is enough vaccine available, the fact that there are 'hard to reach' people should not limit participation.
Somewhat more subject to debate, my read of the news is that the vaccine supply is also significantly increasing 'as we speak'. As that happens, the system will have little trouble serving priority candidates and the focus will change to getting as many arms as the system can handle to show up. As long as there is enough vaccine available, the fact that there are 'hard to reach' people should not limit participation.
Feb 17, 2021, 8:42 pm
#2019
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Even if Americans are vaccinated by the summer, and some countries open up to American tourists, I'd be wary about visiting anywhere in winter time, so November or maybe mid to late October in the Northern Hemisphere.
We could see infections rates drop down over the summer. But the fall/winter is when it started spreading like crazy in North America and Europe.
So while people will want to believe the vaccination has made a difference, it wouldn't be surprising if in the winter again, it starts to spike, with probably new variants yet to come.
We could see infections rates drop down over the summer. But the fall/winter is when it started spreading like crazy in North America and Europe.
So while people will want to believe the vaccination has made a difference, it wouldn't be surprising if in the winter again, it starts to spike, with probably new variants yet to come.
Feb 17, 2021, 10:21 pm
#2020
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Okay I see Peru is open. Anyone happen to know why AA's non stops leave at such crazy times?! The good news it's a 787.
Feb 18, 2021, 12:05 am
#2021
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,610
It seems that a lot of countries are now adding vaccine exemptions, even if not announced in the press. For example, I was checking "Lebanon", "Romania" and "Poland" section under flydubai airline pages, and it says people who are vaccinated are exempt from quarantine etc requirements.
https://www.flydubai.com/en/plan/cov...cr-middle-east
https://www.flydubai.com/en/plan/cov...cr-middle-east
Feb 18, 2021, 12:37 am
#2022
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It seems that a lot of countries are now adding vaccine exemptions, even if not announced in the press. For example, I was checking "Lebanon", "Romania" and "Poland" section under flydubai airline pages, and it says people who are vaccinated are exempt from quarantine etc requirements.
https://www.flydubai.com/en/plan/cov...cr-middle-east
https://www.flydubai.com/en/plan/cov...cr-middle-east
I don't know about Lebanon and Romania but didn't Poland have a high case rate recently?
So did Peru.
Feb 18, 2021, 7:30 am
#2023
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,267
And if Northern Hemisphere winter caused the surge, and the end of winter caused it to recede...wait, what? Since when does winter end in *Mid January, which is when the surge began to collapse?* There are a lot of people in the middle 2/3 of the US who would question whether winter is over right now.
Feb 18, 2021, 8:36 am
#2024
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
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It was also spreading like crazy in South Africa. Down there, the toilets flow backwards and the sun is upside down. And notably, November and December is the summer.
And if Northern Hemisphere winter caused the surge, and the end of winter caused it to recede...wait, what? Since when does winter end in *Mid January, which is when the surge began to collapse?* There are a lot of people in the middle 2/3 of the US who would question whether winter is over right now.
And if Northern Hemisphere winter caused the surge, and the end of winter caused it to recede...wait, what? Since when does winter end in *Mid January, which is when the surge began to collapse?* There are a lot of people in the middle 2/3 of the US who would question whether winter is over right now.
