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EU promises “We will have a summer tourist season” [for travellers from Europe]

 
Old May 13, 2020, 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Owenc
What do you mean? We're not allowed to fly to America.
Yes you are if e.g. you're a non-american who is married to a US citizen, or a number of other exceptions to the rule.

And once you land in America (except Hawaii), there aren't any real restrictions on your movement. You can land from a crowded plane, take an uber to the beach, and then go straight to a house party where you lick your grandparents if you so desire. Americans are big on freedoms, rightly or wrongly, which means generally less travel restrictions for those who are here.
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Old May 13, 2020, 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by nk15
Based on how the US is handling the pandemic, and a possible second wave coming, EU will be insane to let American tourists in without tests, masks, and other measures...
This American this morning canceled free tickets and hotels for a 2.5 week vacation for 4 across Austria, Germany and TBD in July/August. Super disappointed!
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Old May 13, 2020, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by g289t
But isn't this thread about European countries reopening? A European country = a US state. So what's the difference here?
A European COUNTRY is not at all equal to an American state.
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Old May 13, 2020, 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Dieuwer
The worst off counties are Belgium, Spain, and Italy in that order, with respect to COVID-19 deaths per capita. If the EU wants to ban Americans, they are seeking the splinter in the eye while ignoring the beam in their own.
The EU does not want to exacerbate it's problems, by allowing people to visit from a country that is not taking the situation seriously.
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Old May 13, 2020, 6:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Owenc
A European COUNTRY is not at all equal to an American state.
How so? It's debatable whether an American state or a European country has more autonomy.

And the more the EU expands into non-trade areas the less individual member states resemble independent nations.
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Old May 13, 2020, 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by mcbg1
Iceland will be open to travellers from outside Schengen starting June 15th. Travellers from Schengen will be welcome by May 25th AT THE LATEST.
Are there nonstop flights between the USA and Iceland that are being operated, hopefully with some reliability and frequency? If the only path is transmitting through the EU, the border might as well be closed to USA citizens and residents.
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Old May 13, 2020, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Are there nonstop flights between the USA and Iceland that are being operated, hopefully with some reliability and frequency? If the only path is transmitting through the EU, the border might as well be closed to USA citizens and residents.
Apparently, there is the occasional flight from BOS to KEF.
https://www.icelandair.com/support/p.../travel-alert/
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Old May 13, 2020, 7:39 pm
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I have a somewhat related question. Belgium has the highest death rate of any country, followed closely by its next door neighbors. At first Italy and Spain were in the headlines, but now it's the US, the UK, and most recently Russia. Even China, which was most likely the origin and probably has the highest actual numbers, isn't talked about all that much. And yet Belgium and other Western European countries remain in the lead but are not talked about.

Why is Belgium never in the news?

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Old May 13, 2020, 8:05 pm
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Originally Posted by g289t
Why is Belgium never in the news?
"Belgium has surged to the top of the grim leaderboard because authorities decided to be radically transparent, if perhaps a bit speculative, about the toll from the novel coronavirus. They include not only deaths that are confirmed to be virus-related, but even those suspected of being linked, whether the victim was tested or not."

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...covid-19-cases
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Old May 13, 2020, 8:07 pm
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https://www.google.be/amp/s/www.bbc....urope-52491210

Belgium has been over reporting. Half of the fatalities are non-confirmed COVID19.

Many other countries do only count hospital deaths and only confirmed COVID19 cases.

Current numbers are also much lower by now, even when still counting non-confirmed deaths in care homes.
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Old May 13, 2020, 8:11 pm
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And that chart is from almost one month ago. An eternity in COVID times
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Old May 13, 2020, 11:53 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Are there nonstop flights between the USA and Iceland that are being operated, hopefully with some reliability and frequency? If the only path is transmitting through the EU, the border might as well be closed to USA citizens and residents.
Even as Iceland is not in the EU, Iceland is part of the Schengen zone and is signed up to go along with the EU’s Schengen controls applicable to third country nationals at Schengen ports of entry. So even with a direct US-Iceland flight, prospective US and Canadian tourists to Iceland commonly have to meet Iceland’s national admissibility requirements and the Schengen area’s ones too for third country nationals. Iceland can desire to have all the American and Canadian tourists it wants, but unless and until the EU changes the Schengen zone ban or Iceland quits Schengen — the latter of which Iceland wouldn’t even consider today — Iceland will probably have to wait for the EU to change the Schengen ban rules that currently keep out the average US and Canadian tourist from being admissible into the Schengen zone. Until the EU changes the rules, most US and Canadian passport users remain inadmissible into Iceland. Of course Iceland could just say that they will give an Icelandic residence permit to all US or Canadian passport user traveling to Iceland, but the chances of an Icelandic government doing that this year is about as likely as a non-stop flight from Iceland to Yapp.
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Old May 14, 2020, 1:09 am
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DOG AND PONY. I'm not American so I couldn't care less where they are allowed or not.
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Old May 14, 2020, 1:19 am
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I hope its is all open on June 15th the latest, have a booked trip to Croatia on the 21nd.
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I hope its is all open on June 15th the latest, have a booked trip to Croatia on the 21nd.
You may spend 14 days in quarantine there...
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