Covid-19 Impact on "Atmosphere" and "Mood" at Urban/Resort Destinations
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,895
Covid-19 Impact on "Atmosphere" and "Mood" at Urban/Resort Destinations
For leisure travel, many of us seek out destinations that will have a lively atmosphere - full restaurants/bars, social interaction at museums and other attractions, etc. As people try to figure out whether to keep prior travel plans intact during this Covid-19 situation, information on the "mood on the ground" at various destinations can be as important as information on Covid-19 cases and travel restrictions. If we can, maybe this thread can be an active and ongoing status report on how full and active various global cities and popular resort destinations are day-to-day during the epidemic. Obviously residents of global cities and travelers both can contribute.
I am personally interested in major European cities (London, Madrid, Paris, Barcelona, Berlin) outside of Italy - are people still out and about?
As a New York resident I can tell you there is, as of now, no discernible impact on day to day street traffic, attendance at events, etc. I went to a sold-out sporting event yesterday, subways are full, etc. The one exception is that restaurants in Chinatown are apparently less busy than normal - NYC officials are starting a campaign to get residents to go out and eat there. Outside of that if you have a trip planned to New York, you will find the typical scene here
I am personally interested in major European cities (London, Madrid, Paris, Barcelona, Berlin) outside of Italy - are people still out and about?
As a New York resident I can tell you there is, as of now, no discernible impact on day to day street traffic, attendance at events, etc. I went to a sold-out sporting event yesterday, subways are full, etc. The one exception is that restaurants in Chinatown are apparently less busy than normal - NYC officials are starting a campaign to get residents to go out and eat there. Outside of that if you have a trip planned to New York, you will find the typical scene here
#2
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 90
Well this aged poorly. Things changed quick.
Last edited by jsl_313; Mar 26, 2020 at 12:54 pm
#3
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: En Route
Programs: Many
Posts: 6,798
disagree, also a NY'er, went to a popular restaurant last night that was noticeably empty and the staff confirmed they have been getting crushed since the virus settled in. On the way home passed by many normally packed places that were ghost towns.
#4
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,895
Hmm. I didn't notice this yesterday. I guess I will see this weekend. It also could be due to fewer tourists
Care to name the restaurant (always looking for new ideas)
#5
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 2
Although Antwerp wasn't mentioned , things seem normal here for the most part. Can't find mask ,hand sanitizer gels and some in the International business community here might be feeling the heat but other then that resto/bars/ shops operating as usual .
#6
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: SJC
Programs: AA 2MM PLT, HH Gold, Marriott Silver
Posts: 612
I'm visiting NYC in a few weeks, and for some restaurants I still had to jump online immediately when reservations (T-30 days, usually) became available. For example, within 10 minutes of being "turned on", Rezdora typically has nothing left between 5:30-10PM at best. Other restaurants (ex: Carbone) had every dinner slot snapped up literally within 2-3 minutes.
#7
Formerly known as newbie elite
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: YUL
Programs: IHG Diamond Ambassador, Accor Platinum, AC50K
Posts: 2,927
I'm in Paris right now, every restaurant I have been in is full. Streets are bustling, the metro is busy, etc. People are aware but going on with their lives.
Pubs that rely on tourists (and Six Nations Rugby games) are hurting.
My head hurts imagining what a real crisis would do if people are panicking over this.
Pubs that rely on tourists (and Six Nations Rugby games) are hurting.
My head hurts imagining what a real crisis would do if people are panicking over this.
#8
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: American Airlines, Marriott, Hertz, Avis
Posts: 145
Certainly not Europe - but am returning from a 2 week trip to Abu Dhabi, Dubai and the Maldives.
Abu Dhabi was business as usual, however, the day after we left they found the virus in multiple people associated with the bike tour & quarantined their hotels/shut down schools. So I suspect things may be a bit different now.
dubai - largely business as usual, maybe some more face masks on people in places like the mall.
Maldives - occupancy slightly down due to countries not being allowed in, but also lots of people there who had switched travel plans from elsewhere & went specifically because of how remote it was. (Including a pregnant er Doctor - she didn’t want to go to tokyo, but had no worries going to the Maldives, and is on her way to Germany now). Maldivian schools are still open but have canceled all after school activities as a precaution.
There were temperature checks at every non US airport (including entering the Maldives) except for Doha. we were just transiting, we only transited Columbo and they checked us there too.
oh and my husband is American born Chinese and got pulled for a fairly noticeable number of “random” checks. He gets ssss regularly as well...did this trip too.
So at least where we were things were calm, and we have no regrets still taking the trip - lots of conversations about coronavirus, but nothing inhibiting travel yet. I honestly think the biggest issue was our own mental state - reacting funny when people cough, seeing the line of folks in face masks waiting for a flight to Guangzhou, that kind of thing.
Abu Dhabi was business as usual, however, the day after we left they found the virus in multiple people associated with the bike tour & quarantined their hotels/shut down schools. So I suspect things may be a bit different now.
dubai - largely business as usual, maybe some more face masks on people in places like the mall.
Maldives - occupancy slightly down due to countries not being allowed in, but also lots of people there who had switched travel plans from elsewhere & went specifically because of how remote it was. (Including a pregnant er Doctor - she didn’t want to go to tokyo, but had no worries going to the Maldives, and is on her way to Germany now). Maldivian schools are still open but have canceled all after school activities as a precaution.
There were temperature checks at every non US airport (including entering the Maldives) except for Doha. we were just transiting, we only transited Columbo and they checked us there too.
oh and my husband is American born Chinese and got pulled for a fairly noticeable number of “random” checks. He gets ssss regularly as well...did this trip too.
So at least where we were things were calm, and we have no regrets still taking the trip - lots of conversations about coronavirus, but nothing inhibiting travel yet. I honestly think the biggest issue was our own mental state - reacting funny when people cough, seeing the line of folks in face masks waiting for a flight to Guangzhou, that kind of thing.
#9
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: Executive club Gold
Posts: 61
We were in Boston earlier in the week and everything seemed to be normal city bustle, busy restaurants and bars. People were talking about the virus but it seemed business as usual.
Can anyone advise on New Orleans? We're flying across from the UK this week for our 20th anniversary, I am immunocompromised so will have to avoid large gatherings but with good hand washing etc I can still enjoy as general things like restaurants etc.
I'm in Canterbury, UK, and things are still busy, UK seems to be seeing less shoppers out and about but everything else is as usual. I imagine there are slightly less people eating out etc but everything still open.
Can anyone advise on New Orleans? We're flying across from the UK this week for our 20th anniversary, I am immunocompromised so will have to avoid large gatherings but with good hand washing etc I can still enjoy as general things like restaurants etc.
I'm in Canterbury, UK, and things are still busy, UK seems to be seeing less shoppers out and about but everything else is as usual. I imagine there are slightly less people eating out etc but everything still open.
#10
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 765
Everywhere I’ve been in Europe recently seems normal and as busy as ever. In Asia most places seem pretty normal in terms of “vibe” but have far fewer tourists. It’s a great time to visit many places.
#11
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: En Route
Programs: Many
Posts: 6,798
I'm visiting NYC in a few weeks, and for some restaurants I still had to jump online immediately when reservations (T-30 days, usually) became available. For example, within 10 minutes of being "turned on", Rezdora typically has nothing left between 5:30-10PM at best. Other restaurants (ex: Carbone) had every dinner slot snapped up literally within 2-3 minutes.
#12
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: SJC
Programs: AA 2MM PLT, HH Gold, Marriott Silver
Posts: 612
Skipping Carbone should be considered a win. The ultimate Emperor's New Clothes restaurant. It's typical red sauce italian fare, granted SLIGHTLY better than you'd find at a normal red sauce Italian but at like 10x the price. Oh $125 for veal parm! Sweet! $40 for 3 meatballs? What a steal!
I got my main two hard-to-reserve "targets" - Rezdora and Le Bernardin; abc V was wide open but is probably not as good an indicator of tourist travel. Others TBD.
Edit: wait, the veal parm is $125 now? Holy crap! When I went a few years ago, it might've been a third of that, and still overpriced (but tasty).
#13
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Paris, France
Programs: Flying Blue Gold
Posts: 760
I'm in Paris right now, every restaurant I have been in is full. Streets are bustling, the metro is busy, etc. People are aware but going on with their lives.
Pubs that rely on tourists (and Six Nations Rugby games) are hurting.
My head hurts imagining what a real crisis would do if people are panicking over this.
Pubs that rely on tourists (and Six Nations Rugby games) are hurting.
My head hurts imagining what a real crisis would do if people are panicking over this.
We were in London last weekend and you’ve got to admire the Brits for their keep calm and carry on vibe – while here people are somewhat concerned, over there it seemed they couldn’t care less.
#14
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Singapore - the hot, little red dot
Programs: BA, SQ
Posts: 861
It's a really diverse situation here in Singapore currently.
This weekend has finally brought out the locals and it's been very busy in the main eating/drinking areas. Like nothing has happened, far cry from the last few weeks.
Is it that complacency has crept in or just finally realising that life needs to go on, I hope it's the later.
The main tourist areas though are still devoid of any crowds. It's a really marked contrast between local haunts and the tourist spots.
This weekend has finally brought out the locals and it's been very busy in the main eating/drinking areas. Like nothing has happened, far cry from the last few weeks.
Is it that complacency has crept in or just finally realising that life needs to go on, I hope it's the later.
The main tourist areas though are still devoid of any crowds. It's a really marked contrast between local haunts and the tourist spots.
#15
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,895
I’m now hearing it is a bit slower at NYC restaurants and such. Grocery stores are selling out of dry food.. The city is looking a bit thinned out, but nothing is closed or anything yet