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FlyingIsCool Mar 24, 2015 1:55 pm

Question is: who is going to keep flying on UA but collect miles on ConnectMiles?

amartin1979 Mar 24, 2015 5:34 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingIsCool (Post 24558829)
Question is: who is going to keep flying on UA but collect miles on ConnectMiles?

That's a great question for THIS forum. But ConnectMiles is going to need separate forum, distinct from MileagePlus. @:-)

KenInEscazu Mar 24, 2015 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by amartin1979 (Post 24559960)
ConnectMiles is going to need separate forum, distinct from MileagePlus. @:-)

Absolutely! There is already sufficient buzz to warrant it, and it really doesn't belong in the MileagePlus forum. It is not, after all, MileagePlus.

Personally, I'm holding back my excitement until I see what status they "give" me. I love that word, as if I haven't spent thousands of dollars flying them, or anything. :D

No matter what it is, however, I'm certainly not alone in wanting to discuss it now, and the numbers will only increase.

Kacee Apr 14, 2015 9:32 pm

Copa just provided some details on its new program. While I remain skeptical of how well Copa can operate a complex FFP, I have to admit the program details themselves sound really, really good. Basically it's the UA program pre-PQD, pre- mileage based RDM. Top tier status ("Presidential Platinum" - lol) will apparently include three RPUs and six GPUs good on United.

Details here.

Still awaiting: *A partner redemption charts.

TPJ Apr 15, 2015 3:26 am

OMG - they will have 4 tiers (including 3 tiers mapping to Star Gold) - do they really need THAT many?

I find this absolutely idiotic - ' The member can only access the lounge when traveling internationally' - do they have any domestic routes in Panama? I doubt it. Or they refer to AeroRepublica Colombian domestic routes? Or they refer to ANY domestic route (like FRA-MUC - all Star Golds can access lounge, so only Copa Golds would not be able to do so?)

I am not particularly impressed...

Kacee Apr 15, 2015 8:48 am


Originally Posted by TPJ (Post 24667732)
I find this absolutely idiotic - ' The member can only access the lounge when traveling internationally' - do they have any domestic routes in Panama? I doubt it. Or they refer to AeroRepublica Columbian domestic routes?

Yes, they are referring to Colombia routes. Not idiotic at all. (And it's "Colombian").


Or they refer to ANY domestic route (like FRA-MUC - all Star Golds can access lounge, so only Copa Golds would not be able to do so?)
Are you deliberately misreading this? *G lounge access for CM *Gs will be governed by the *A access rules.

FlyingIsCool Apr 15, 2015 2:41 pm

UA platinum gives you 2 RPUs. Copa's Platinum will give you 3 RPUs. Interesting.

This program seems very intriguing.

TPJ Apr 15, 2015 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 24668758)
Yes, they are referring to Colombia routes. Not idiotic at all. (And it's "Colombian").



Are you deliberately misreading this? *G lounge access for CM *Gs will be governed by the *A access rules.

Colombian corrected.

Yes - quite deliberately - if they make an effort to start a new program, they should do a better job with providing full details. I suspect 'The member can only access the lounge when traveling internationally' is just copy/paste from current MP rules.

PS. I believe AV offers Colombian domestic lounge access even to their Silver members.

WineCountryUA Apr 15, 2015 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingIsCool (Post 24670515)
UA platinum gives you 2 RPUs. Copa's Platinum will give you 3 RPUs. Interesting. ...

Wonder what the ending note means?

2. Connect Regional Upgrades are available on Copa Airlines-operated flights and United-operated flights in certain regions (fare restrictions apply).

Kacee Apr 15, 2015 6:09 pm


Originally Posted by TPJ (Post 24670614)
Yes - quite deliberately - if they make an effort to start a new program, they should do a better job with providing full details.

I'm not sure they have the details yet. Program is still in planning stages, July 1 roll-out. Tension between keeping people informed and not yet having all the details nailed down yet. There's also the language issue.

Very few FFPs in the world are as detailed with their program description as UA's. If you're going to hold CM to that standard, they will fail. As would LH, AV, etc.

I'm not a big CM fan but the program benefits sound pretty good.

KenInEscazu Apr 27, 2015 9:15 pm

New Email Today
 
I guess they are getting a lot of email/phone calls regarding things that I thought were obvious. They sent out this email today:
Thank you for your interest in ConnectMiles, the new loyalty program from Copa Airlines. Part of getting ready for our program launch in July 2015 is keeping future members up to date and informed. For this reason, we want to provide clear answers to two of our most frequently asked questions:

What will happen to my existing MileagePlus balance?
Answer: Copa Airlines starting its own loyalty program will not affect your existing MileagePlus balance or status in any way. MileagePlus will remain a strong loyalty program. The existing balances that you have can be used for award travel on Copa Airlines and any other Star Alliance carrier. It was very important to both United and Copa Airlines, that customers did not lose their accrued value as a result of the Copa Airlines’ loyalty program launch.

What will happen to the status I have earned in MileagePlus?
Answer: As previously noted, Copa Airlines starting its own loyalty program will not impact your MileagePlus status. Therefore, MileagePlus Premier members will receive either Star Alliance Silver or Gold benefits.

At the same time, Copa Airlines will recognize customers’ previous travels and commitment to Copa Airlines with a status offer that will be similar to what you have previously earned in MileagePlus. Going forward, it becomes your choice which program you wish to concentrate your efforts to retain or grow your status. Both ConnectMiles and MileagePlus will offer unique status benefits to their program members.
Personally, I love flying Copa. I have even been paying for my regular trips between SJO and MDE, thanks to JohhnyColombia enlightening me to choose Panama as the page I use for pricing. Even UA has been offering low prices on the route at the last page of claiming an award, giving me the chance to earn miles there while I wait for ConnectMiles to start.

I am still 100% on CPUs for my USA trips, and I have been getting them on my trips both ways between SJO and MDE, too. Hoping that and my USA trips get me converted to Presidential Platinum. :D

EmailKid Apr 27, 2015 9:41 pm


Originally Posted by amartin1979 (Post 24559960)
That's a great question for THIS forum. But ConnectMiles is going to need separate forum, distinct from MileagePlus. @:-)

That is something TalkBoard decides @:-)

For now Copa is still in Other North and South American Airlines forum.

SJOFlyer May 21, 2015 8:17 am

I just got the invitation by email to enroll in the program as a Presidential Platinum member. Very easy to register.

Kacee May 21, 2015 8:30 am

CM has also posted *A earning and redemption charts.

The earnings are poor, with UA fares below H earning either 75% or 50%. Connect Miles on UA flights.

The award chart is copied from UA, with the same devalued *A redemption rates that UA introduced last year. *A Redemption Chart. Additionally, because this chart applies to redemptions on UA, UA flights through CM will cost considerably more than redeeming through UA.

Unfortunately, the reality of the program does not live up to its early promise.

MarkyMarc May 21, 2015 10:20 am


Originally Posted by SJOFlyer (Post 24849140)
I just got the invitation by email to enroll in the program as a Presidential Platinum member. Very easy to register.

Got the same thing last night (although Silver since flying UA to SCL now). But, piece of cake and will see how this goes...


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