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SFO-RSW Sep 10, 2009 7:59 am

Ooops! Sorry, RTW awards are addressed in footnote at the bottom of the bottom of the page..

"Round-the-world Reward: Create a Round-the-world itinerary for 160,000 miles in Economy Class, 220,000 miles in Business Class, or 280,000 miles in First Class."

Good news.. Stays the same as current!

mnbv Sep 10, 2009 8:02 am


Originally Posted by CAPTMARK (Post 12358700)
Effective Jan. 1, 2010:
• All members worldwide will earn 1.5 Elite Qualification Points when they purchase and fly in fare classes F, C, J, D, Z, Y and B on flights operated by Continental. :td:

Bad news for me, but on the bright side, I can now stop my irrational habit of full fare purchases on RJs just to requalify!

sbm12 Sep 10, 2009 8:09 am


Originally Posted by SFO-RSW (Post 12358964)
Ooops! Sorry, RTW awards are addressed in footnote at the bottom of the bottom of the page..

"Round-the-world Reward: Create a Round-the-world itinerary for 160,000 miles in Economy Class, 220,000 miles in Business Class, or 280,000 miles in First Class."

Good news.. Stays the same as current!

Y actually is going up 20K (from 140K) but the J/F are the same. CO now has the best value for RTW in the premium cabin on *A, I believe.

sbm12 Sep 10, 2009 8:11 am


Originally Posted by mfhstid (Post 12358852)
I wonder. Upper Class on VS is one of three, not two cabins, because of Premium Economy. The same applies to some of NZ, BD and SK longhaul services, where Premium Econ is one of three cabins. In all those cases, however, the forward cabin is clearly C/J class, and not F - just like CO's BF class. So it would be wrong to charge them as an F redemption, which I hope CO won't try to do. The problem is there is some ambiguity in the regulations as they stand.

Maybe. But CO doesn't acknowledge the PE cabin in terms of offering a reward or tickets for sale in that cabin so I would be very surprised to see them consider it as such in determining whether the pointy end is F or C/J.

jrzyshawn Sep 10, 2009 8:12 am

Great news. ^^^

A few days ago I called in and waitlisted for NRT-IAH BusinessFirst upgrade for 25K and $100 on a B fare. Can that be cancelled without a fee?

CLEHillbilly Sep 10, 2009 8:13 am

Excellent news from Scott and CO. ^^^

I especially like #2, 4 and 6.

Funnyguy Sep 10, 2009 8:15 am

I am very pleased to see that reward travel to Tel Aviv is back down to 75K.
When Continental raised it to 90K in January, I planned to collect United miles and use them on the Continental flight to Tel Aviv for 75K. Luckily I didn't collect so many.
I only booked one 90K award this year, and was going to book two others this week. Of course I will now wait until October 27.
Any chance we can get the 75K before October 27 (for a flight in December)?

ssullivan Sep 10, 2009 8:16 am

THANK YOU!!! for 100% EQMs regardless of booking channel.

yellow77 Sep 10, 2009 8:19 am

Full EQM on CO flights on discount fares is nice. The missing fine print about discount fares on *A partners - which I'm sure they can't talk about yet - is the elephant in the corner here.

Overall, pretty positive - except for those of us who could work the co.com booking system to our advantage to get what we wanted, and were therefore a higher elite status than some who flew more than us... :)

fozz Sep 10, 2009 8:22 am

Holy cow. I just looked at the list and have to give CO a huge ^^.

I'm really impressed with the changes and like all thew new benefits for Plats.

J.Edward Sep 10, 2009 8:22 am

Goodby SDC fee! We'll miss ya and don't let the door hit you in the @#$ on the way out! :D

One thing I'm a bit uncertain on: what % of EQMs do C--->B fares earn?

jrzyshawn Sep 10, 2009 8:30 am


Originally Posted by ssullivan (Post 12359056)
THANK YOU!!! for 100% EQMs regardless of booking channel.

This is great news for my plus1! ^

sbm12 Sep 10, 2009 8:40 am


Originally Posted by jrzyshawn (Post 12359038)
A few days ago I called in and waitlisted for NRT-IAH BusinessFirst upgrade for 25K and $100 on a B fare. Can that be cancelled without a fee?

If you are a platinum.

benolaa Sep 10, 2009 8:41 am

WOW this is awesome!! COInsider you rock!! Every even minor issue I had is fixed and the award charts are great!!

As "O" is currently Plat BF award and the *A uses that as First what will happen with Plat BF awards?

rjque Sep 10, 2009 8:41 am

These levels look very similar to the levels on United, and CO has stated that it does not intend to *Net block. ^ to CO!

sbm12 Sep 10, 2009 8:42 am


Originally Posted by CO Insider (Post 12358401)
  1. OnePass Platinum and Gold = Star Alliance Gold. This is old news for many of you, but nonetheless, it’s an important Elite benefit improvement. Effective Oct. 27, OnePass Platinum and Gold Elite members will be entitled to Star Alliance Gold privileges with Continental and our 24 Star Alliance member carriers. This includes access to over 800 lounges worldwide when traveling on an international Star Alliance itinerary (regardless of your class of service), up to three complimentary checked bags, and priority airport services including check-in, baggage handling and early boarding with all Star Alliance member airlines. If you are an Elite member, you will receive a new membership by late Oct., which will reflect your Star Alliance elite level

(emphasis mine)

So we are going to get new cards this autumn?? :cool:

transportbiz Sep 10, 2009 8:46 am

Overall, it's good news, but most the rewards do seem higher to me. Israel among the few exceptions... the most popular rewards, Hawaii and Europe are higher.

cova Sep 10, 2009 8:46 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 12359199)
So we are going to get new cards this autumn?? :cool:

We had a separate thread on discussing when we get new elite cards. But this statement is pretty clear - End of Oct.

I see the issue - the word "CARD" is missing.

OnePass Since 87 Sep 10, 2009 8:51 am

I suppose this is net good news, certainly for a lot of folks on this board. For this short hauler that buys a lot of MBY-Ups I am not so sure.

#2 Zero SDC fees for plats ^ (although I rarely do this.)

#4 EQM's & EQP's are back regardless of booking channel. ^^ for the folks that this effected. For me not really an issue.

#6 EQM's based on 500+ mile minimum ^^^ (I am the aforesaid short hauler)

#7 EQP's to 1.5 times rather than 2 times - Boooo! :td: Havnt done the math, but this could make a difference in elite qualifiaction for me in a future lean travel year. I assume (hope) EQM bonuses stay the same as before? (It's a long way to 2M LFM's, but I plan on getting there!:eek:)

mht_flyer Sep 10, 2009 8:55 am


Originally Posted by J.Edward (Post 12359091)
One thing I'm a bit uncertain on: what % of EQMs do C--->B fares earn?

Scott can you confirm what EQM earnings we will get for these fare types -- still 150% EQM?

Alpha Golf Sep 10, 2009 9:06 am

Any chance you'll be offering reciprocal upgrades to *A members from others (in my case, United)?

(Realize will need a lot of work, and probably changes in MP)

mfhstid Sep 10, 2009 9:11 am


Originally Posted by sbm12
Maybe. But CO doesn't acknowledge the PE cabin in terms of offering a reward or tickets for sale in that cabin so I would be very surprised to see them consider it as such in determining whether the pointy end is F or C/J.

True enough. I don't think CO has ever recognised VS's PE for burning miles, and for earning I know it's treated as Y. Ideally, the charts would reflect that.

transportbiz Sep 10, 2009 9:14 am

Best news is number 4, ^^^good new for CO too, this policy was a revenue loser. Example, had this been announced 2-weeks ago the trip ATL-HAM-LAX I had to have our agency book would have been booked on CO instead of DL.

controller1 Sep 10, 2009 9:21 am

Thanks
 
Super changes. Thanks for the update.

ovenman Sep 10, 2009 9:26 am

Big thumbs up! ^

I'm so glad I did a status match and jumped ship from NW/DL.

bocastephen Sep 10, 2009 9:31 am

Overall great news!

I am concerned about the possibility of losing 150% EQM (miles, not points) on Y,B and M fares as I might be booking more of those in the future.

I'm not thrilled at CONUS-HI mileage reqs going up, but hopefully that will be balanced by better award seat availability between CO, UA, and AC (they need to GIVE ME 80k miles to fly US to Hawai'i).

I am a little concerned about the goodness to come, though. I hope it's good stuff, but to be honest, I don't want recip upgrades for UA and especially US.

colpuck Sep 10, 2009 9:33 am

Awesome. As a soon-to-be plat I am very happy.

rolov Sep 10, 2009 9:33 am


Originally Posted by J.Edward (Post 12359091)
Goodby SDC fee! We'll miss ya and don't let the door hit you in the @#$ on the way out! :D

One thing I'm a bit uncertain on: what % of EQMs do C--->B fares earn?

Have you even been on a CO flight this year :p:D

bajrbajr Sep 10, 2009 9:35 am

Correct me if I'm wrong here...

I don’t like the change in the redeposit fees for PE.

Currently, I can put several passengers in one reservation and not be charged to redeposit any of them because they were from my (PE) OP account.

As the new changes read, “These fees will apply per customer instead of per reservation.”
So I can redeposit my ticket without a fee, but others (even within my reservation and from my PE account) will be charged a redeposit fee.


I do like the "no Saturday Night stay required" for saver pass domestic tickets!

J.Edward Sep 10, 2009 9:44 am


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 12359516)
Have you even been on a CO flight this year :p:D

A few :p

But it's my CO flights for next year that I'm worrying about. :cool:

Xyzzy Sep 10, 2009 9:45 am


Originally Posted by bajrbajr (Post 12359521)
As the new changes read, “These fees will apply per customer instead of per reservation.”
So I can redeposit my ticket without a fee, but others (even within my reservation and from my PE account) will be charged a redeposit fee.

There will be no fee. The miles come from a Platinum account and they go back to the same Platinum account. There is already no change fee for tickets that come from a Platinum account, regardless of who travels. This will work the same.

Xyzzy Sep 10, 2009 9:47 am


Originally Posted by J.Edward (Post 12359570)
A few :p

But it's my CO flights for next that I'm worrying about. :cool:

Yea -- those SEA-NRT trips aren't looking quite as rewarding now...

flyldavid Sep 10, 2009 9:52 am

"100% Elite Qualification Miles and Elite Qualification Points can be earned on discounted fares regardless of where the ticket is purchased or issued. "

This is effective October 27th. As in travel after Oct 27th? or Tickets issued after Oct 27th? If I buy a ticket TODAY for travel in November, on expedia in L-class will I get 100EQM? :)

SS255 Sep 10, 2009 9:55 am

Thanks for the changes, Scott. I am sure that you had a lot to do with it, so I really appreciate your efforts, and the fact that you "look out" for us.

I hope you did not pull an all-nighter writing this. Why were you posting at that hour instead of sleeping?

transportbiz Sep 10, 2009 9:59 am


Originally Posted by flyldavid (Post 12359621)
"100% Elite Qualification Miles and Elite Qualification Points can be earned on discounted fares regardless of where the ticket is purchased or issued. "

This is effective October 27th. As in travel after Oct 27th? or Tickets issued after Oct 27th? If I buy a ticket TODAY for travel in November, on expedia in L-class will I get 100EQM? :)

If you're buying the ticket yourself, I don't understand why you'd buy from Expedia, instead of CO.com just to be sure? Usually, this issue comes up when an agency has to book travel for business and can't or won't use the Continental website.

mith Sep 10, 2009 9:59 am


Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 12358635)
Wow -- that looks good! What happened with Amtrak? There will be no more EQM earning opportunities, but it looks like RDM earning will remain. Will there be any changes to the codeshare arrangements and/or mileage redemption with Amtrak? One could ask similar questions about US Helicopter.

Good question... I hope they only mean EQM earnings on Acela only tickets but no change on connecting Codeshares via EWR. There really is no need to have those PHL-EWR flights which idle longer on the tarmac than the train takes from downtown Philly to EWR.. Losing EQM on those codeshares would probably be due to US Scarways wanting it like that!

quantumslip Sep 10, 2009 10:04 am


Originally Posted by transportbiz (Post 12359674)
If you're buying the ticket yourself, I don't understand why you'd buy from Expedia, instead of CO.com just to be sure? Usually, this issue comes up when an agency has to book travel for business and can't or won't use the Continental website.

Some travel sites give you more points if you buy through their site with their credit card. Or with expedia, if you book a flight+hotel you get ThankYou points. Speaking of ThankYou points, I can now use them for flying without having to worry if I'll get 100% EQM or not now! (5% mtvU card for the win)

GIGFY Sep 10, 2009 10:05 am


Originally Posted by timo469 (Post 12358769)
While I agree overall the changes are positive, yet I find there to be a large devaluation for Europe based members, it seems that all awards leaving europe have increased in value including Asia. I can't believe you can fly from New York to Singapore via FRA for less miles than FRA-SIN.

I am honestly a little disappointed, now to decide if I book tickets before October first or not.

Very appreciated of the heads up though, truly world class communications from Continental.

Cheers,

Timo

Agree 100%.

Whilst most of the changes are good news for US-based guys (& I also applaud Scott for his marketing nous in announcing these changes so early), the overall impact on us non-US based guys seems pretty negative.

As xyzzy points out above (#27), there seems to be a drop from 200% to 125% in EQMs for pointy end fares, and the miles needed for reward tix to US (and let's fact it, we are unlikely to fly anywhere else on CO from Europe) have increased. I might benefit from the SDC free change, I guess, but that's about it. Looks like I'll find it very difficult to justify paying for the pointy end again (whether cash or reward) - and that saddens me greatly!

Sorry to be negative when so many of you seem pleased - this is just my European perspective :(

cova Sep 10, 2009 10:11 am


Originally Posted by transportbiz (Post 12359674)
If you're buying the ticket yourself, I don't understand why you'd buy from Expedia, instead of CO.com just to be sure? Usually, this issue comes up when an agency has to book travel for business and can't or won't use the Continental website.

You are still better off buying direct from CO. If you need to make changes, refunds, etc. you then deal with CO. If you buy ticket from someone else then you have to deal with them for ticket changes.

flyldavid Sep 10, 2009 10:12 am


Originally Posted by transportbiz (Post 12359674)
If you're buying the ticket yourself, I don't understand why you'd buy from Expedia, instead of CO.com just to be sure? Usually, this issue comes up when an agency has to book travel for business and can't or won't use the Continental website.

Well it involves other airlines in the same itin, plus I'm using an old ticket that I have that I can't change on co.com. So I was planning on booking the CO segs in "G" to get the 100EQM, but now that they would offer 100EQM even for lower fares I could just save the $$.

Also the connecting flights I specifically want are not offered on co.com. So I either have to do it through a travel agent, or by calling CO directly. Travel is not until Nov 05-12. But I'm not sure if the tickets have to be issued after Oct 27th, or if it's just travel after Oct 27. Does anyone know?


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